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cinch
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Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
Jul 2002 time: 22:36
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quote: Originally posted by Asher
Of course it wasn't officially a goal. It was conclusively a goal if you can see the damn picture. I honestly don't know how anyone can stare at that picture and insist that the puck is NOT on the ice, AND that the puck was NOT over the line.
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Wow, you are one of the most virulent homers I have ever seen.
At BEST, that freeze-frame (which I have seen many a time, don't you worry) gives the puck a 50/50 chance of being in. All other angles say 'no'. The puck could have been in the air, if you watch how it's moving beforehand, thus creating an illusion of depth perception.
The referee did not stop the play, it went on for a while after that. You cannot expect the league officials to call that a goal when they have, at best, a 33% chance (that's 1 of 3 camer angles) of being correct in that assumption... ESPECIALLY when the on-ice officials don't stop the play, let alone call it a goal.
Please, stop pissing on your team's accomplishment by being so petty.
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cinch
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Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
Jul 2002 time: 22:36
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quote: Originally posted by Asher
Oh yes, another example of why I love him.
Did you see him this game intentionally lay down on the puck and sprawl out to delay the game when the puck was in their end? If that's not a delay of game penalty, it sure as hell should be. |
Yes, that's exactly what I was referring to. It's called sacrificing your body to kill a penalty, and it's part of what made Andreychuk so valuable to his team.
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Asher
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Calgary, Alberta
Nov 1999 time: 22:36
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quote: Originally posted by cinch
At BEST, that freeze-frame (which I have seen many a time, don't you worry) gives the puck a 50/50 chance of being in. All other angles say 'no'. |
The other angles couldn't see the puck, that's not saying "no".
And please explain to me where you get the 50/50 bullshit. To do so:
1) Show me how it is NOT on the ice, when it is clearly wedged under his pads/skate.
2) Show me how it is NOT over the line, when there is clearly ice on both sides
quote: The puck could have been in the air, if you watch how it's moving beforehand, thus creating an illusion of depth perception. |
If the puck would've been in the air, it would be a perfect circle, not having parts of the goalie's pads on it. If it was in the air, it would've bounced off at the angle of reflection, and not laterally like the replays clearly show.
quote: Please, stop pissing on your team's accomplishment by being so petty. |
I've already said I'm proud of them, and they did accomplish a lot, but they were robbed. Plain and simple.
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dejon
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I suggest we lay off Asher and let him cool off.
I know from personal experience ('94) how hard it is when your team comes so close and loses - with or without possible injustices.
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asleepathewheel
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listening too long to one song
Mar 2002 time: 00:36
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I would feel much more sympathy if the phantom goal was to tie rather than take the lead. As it was, Calgary was still in position to take the cup in that game and could have played much better in this one.
Calgary, join the list of teams who could have clinched a series but lost the game to a screwball play and couldn't put it back together for the final.
1985 Cardinals
1986 Red Sox
2003 Cubs*
2004 Flames
*NLCS
And undoubtedly some more I'm forgetting
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Guynemer
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Fabulous, I swear to everything that has ever been held holy by anyone who has ever lived, you keep talking like that, and I will reach my arm through the Internet and slap the spots off your cow.
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Asher
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Calgary, Alberta
Nov 1999 time: 22:36
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From CBC:
quote: In Calgary there was a collective sigh as the city's hockey heroes lost their first playoff round of the year. But there were also loud cheers for a team that achieved much more than had been expected of them.
The Calgary team went into the playoffs as decided underdogs, but knocked off the top three teams in their conference, including the powerful Detroit Red Wings, before meeting the eastern champions, who finally knocked the western team off their perch.
But along the way the Flames tied the record of 10 wins on the road in the post-season and after Toronto and Montreal bowed out in the second round, they became the favourites of many Canadians from coast to coast to coast.
With the NHL facing a possible labour dispute that could shut down its 2004-2005 season, the league must have been hoping for a thrilling end to this season to boost disappointing TV ratings in the U.S. It got its wish.
The series had more ups and downs than a roller coaster ride. Through the first six games neither team could manage two wins in a row; two games were decided in overtime.
Both teams were backstopped by incredible goaltenders; Miikka Kiprusoff for Calgary and Nikolai Khabibulin for Tampa Bay. Each had spectacular playoff runs, with both men recording five shutouts, and unbelievably stingy goals against averages.
The players may have been nervous heading into game seven, but so were many fans. Don Hardy, the head of the Tampa Bay Lightning Fan Club, was feeling the pressure. "I mean I've lost weight, I don't feel good, I'm running a fever. I mean I'm not a hockey player but I'm so much into the game it's exhausting me."
Even though they lost, the city of Calgary says it will hold a parade through the city on Wednesday to honour the Flames. |
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