02-06-2004 23:58									#31
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quote: Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui Was it censorship when no one wanted to release 'The Passion'?

Uh, no. There aren't even any similarities. Michael Moore is a heroic man fighting to singlehandedly bring down the evil Bush dynasty. Mel Gibson is just a religionist.

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quote: Originally posted by Gibsie Now, the question is, when millions of conservatives run this film down at the end of the month, how many of them will have actually seen it?

Apparently the film (mockudocudrama?) "Michael Moore Hate America" is trying to have a release that corresponds with the release of farenheint 9/11

	03-06-2004 01:12									#33
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those Disney folks really know their advertising....

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It should be good.

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quote: Originally posted by Verto Uh, no. There aren't even any similarities. Michael Moore is a heroic man fighting to singlehandedly bring down the evil Bush dynasty.

Hi, Mr Moore. Was unaware you were a poster at Apolyton. Good luck with your film release in June.

	03-06-2004 01:25									#36
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My Reagan facade has failed me! I am naked for all to see!

	03-06-2004 01:26									#37
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quote: Originally posted by Ramo It should be good.

I agree "Michael Moore Hate America" should be good.

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quote: Originally posted by Ogie Oglethorpe I agree "Michael Moore Hate America" should be good.

Do you really think so?

	03-06-2004 01:28									#39
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No not really. But it was ironic that Ramo replied pretty much after you had put your post.

	03-06-2004 01:30									#40
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quote: Originally posted by Kucinich

quote: Originally posted by someone Ironic that companies should be forced to put something out if they don't want. A reverse censorship if you will. Freedom of the speech as long as it is the message that I want!! [nazi] You will put out this movie or suffer the consequences [/nazi]

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quote: I agree "Michael Moore Hate America" should be good.

Yeah, watching right wingers get their panties in a twist is fun.

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Just as fun as left wingers getting their panties in a twist, I guess (ie, Michael Moore's work).

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Moore deserved the Palm D'or just for causing this much panty twisting.

	03-06-2004 01:38									#44
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Maybe his books, but not his movies (at least the two I've seen - Bowling for Columbine and Canadian Bacon). They're damn well done.

"Micheal Moore Hates America" just sounds retarded.

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quote: Originally posted by Ramo "Micheal Moore Hates America" just sounds retarded.

Judging from the trailer, it takes everything people critisize moore for, removes the humour and the political agenda, and replaces it with a melodramatic 'proud to be america' spiel.

I really don't know who this movie is supposed to apeal to.

	03-06-2004 01:43									#46
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quote: Originally posted by Ramo "Micheal Moore Hates America" just sounds retarded.

Which part do you find retarded? I'm guesing its the Michael Moore part.

	03-06-2004 01:44									#47
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If you dont understand that information must be published you fail to see the point.

Some government close Fox-like news channel probably gets ahold all the torture pictures and decides NOT to make them public, but hide them. Because they dont like them.

Ofc this is not the same, because this is a crime I know, but I hope you can see the direction.

If you dont have the chance to publish critical stuff and make it available to a large audience, then you'll be controlled and information-fed by those who have the power to do.

Its not because its beating the dead Bush horse, but because it raises discussion which is good for any democracy. Bush is just a symbol IMO.

And of course it would not be possible to force any company to release anything, but from a personal point of view I dislike it when they try to tell what I can get to see and what not. I called this censorship, because in some way it is.
In this case it was even worse because this movie would surely bring them a lot of money (which they are after desperately after all).

Now come and stop being superficial.

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quote: Originally posted by chegitz guevara I look forward to seeing it.

Out of curiosity the overwhelming sentiment I've seen is that there's nothing new in there, so why go see a movie, especially a political one, if you already now everything its going to say before it says it?

* DinoDoc refuses to continue argueing with Atahualpa because it's going to be a long and frustrating conversation with a brick wall.

	03-06-2004 03:12									#49
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Damn it DD, stop runing everyone's fun with common sense!!

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quote: Originally posted by DinoDoc Out of curiosity the overwhelming sentiment I've seen is that there's nothing new in there, so why go see a movie, especially a political one, if you already now everything its going to say before it says it?

because I loved Roger and Me and Bowling for Savas...

plus, it's always fun to "rah rah" the anti-bush stuff.

	03-06-2004 03:22									#51
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It seems rather boring to go sit through a political movie where you already know all the points. Do you have a case of insomnia you wish to try your hand at curing?

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quote: Originally posted by DinoDoc It seems rather boring to go sit through a political movie where you already know all the points. Do you have a case of insomnia you wish to try your hand at curing?

Why does anyone post here?

	03-06-2004 03:24									#53
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Maybe Sava just wants to have a good reason to use his poms poms?

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quote: Originally posted by DinoDoc Out of curiosity the overwhelming sentiment I've seen is that there's nothing new in there, so why go see a movie, especially a political one, if you already now everything its going to say before it says it? .

Because Moore's an entertaining film maker of course.
He can tell us everything we already know and make it interesting again.

I was famillar with most of his basic points in "Bowling for Columbine" but it was still a damn fun movie to watch.

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quote: Originally posted by monkspider He can tell us everything we already know and make it interesting again.

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quote: Originally posted by General Ludd Why does anyone post here?

Well I suppose circle jerks can be entertaining but I have no personal experience with them. What's your opinion on them GL?

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quote: Originally posted by DinoDoc It seems rather boring to go sit through a political movie where you already know all the points. Do you have a case of insomnia you wish to try your hand at curing?

plus, audience reaction is something I'm curious about... Bowling for COlumbine was great in terms of audience reaction. Everyone who saw it seemed to enjoy it.... plus it was funny.

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quote: Originally posted by Sava plus, audience reaction is something I'm curious about...

Valid point.

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Guys, stop arguing its not censorship, you should have just left it at my post.

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On a side note, Moore made an interview with that Berg guy in Iraq before he was kidnapped and beheaded.

It was not included in this movie, though, and he has agreed with the family not to show it anywhere else.