15-06-2004 09:37									#61
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-turn begin-
I see that University Base has produced a Colony Pod.
Those bases will produce colony pods - my infrastructure will move down to the Monsoon Jungle.

Unity rover at 55,33 moves to 57,33.
Since a unit can always enter a square containing a friendly unit,
I move the colony pod to 59,33
so the scout at 59,35 can move there.
then I move the colony pod to 57,33.

AA moves closer to one of my bases (not sure what I'll do with it yet).
Popping a pod at 58,50: Got another AA.
Since AAs can get techs that mod3 cannot, I'll keep them around.

I have an ICS plan for the Monsoon Jungle. I will unfortunately expand past my first b-limit, so there will be drone issues.
Maybe those AAs can be used on the HGP?

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	15-06-2004 17:06									#62
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Doctrine: Mobility Chose Doc: Flex.

Probe moved to infiltrate Cult. Contact with cult

Traded with cult (Inf Networks for Social Psych.) Got treaty.

Infiltrated Cult.

Rushed former at DataDeCentral (9e.c for 4/6)

Scouts moved to (26,30) & (31,29)

Changed Research to Ethical Calculus - the cult is researching Doc: Flex, and we'd probably have gotten it at about the same time. Trade or probe methinks.

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	15-06-2004 18:16									#63
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2108 turn:

OPEN TURN

Rush former to 1 turn at St Andrews (13 ec’s needed, but base is producing 3 mins, sp pay 7 ec’s for it to complete next turn - {13 – [3 x 2]} It only had 2 turns to complete, but in the expectation that I'll get the 150 Unity ec's next turn i can afford to be somewhat profligate with ec's right now - and it'll get the former working 1 turn quicker than otherwise

Scout now just 1 tile away from base, and Miner 1 tile away from the ec cache

Mindworm pops pod, gets an AA and then moves east towards next pop for popping

reminder to self: pop the pod first before moving units – will now divert the scout to the AA to escort it home. It is now vulnerable for 3 turns instead of 1 if I’d waited to move the scout until after popping. Ah well

END TURN

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	15-06-2004 19:01									#64
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That AA...
I anticipate Googlie will build the EG between 2125 and 2130.

I must hurry to take down Svensgaard! He holds most of my technology, and will give up gold like PlaNets for crap like Social Psych.

	16-06-2004 07:51									#65
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EDIT
I'm studying for a final exam on Thursday. No SMAX for me!

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	16-06-2004 16:56									#66
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What am I doing... I'm meant to be studying...
Meh.
Scout patrol moves to U1 and disbands, so I won't have to pay minerals in support.
Former finishes Forest, Uni base works forest for pop growth just as fast and a few more mins.
Reactivating former, moves to 57,33 and starts clearing fungus.

Colony pod closer to 51,37.
I want a base there, so I can build an Impact Foil Prototype with the most minerals available - and complete a few more Impact Foils in the same turn (mineral reduction on prototype build)

Scout patrol tries to move closer to the pod at 50,22.
Finds worms... Kills worms. Down to 60%. Bloody worms.
Rover tries to move to 59,33.
Finds worms... Kills worms. Down to 80%.
Tries again to move to 59,33 and fails. Bloody worms.
Popping a pod at 56,50. Better not be worms!
Phew... It's an AA. I'm really rackin' these AAs up!
HGP, anyone?

Traded PlaNets for AppPhys from Svensgaard. He really is signing his own death warrant...
I won't switch to Wealth once I get IA, since I'd rather rush the colony pods at my bases, and I'll be making a military anyway.

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	16-06-2004 23:28									#67
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Scout -> DataDeCentral()
Probe -> (29,29) - fungus denied further movement
Scout -> Tried to pop pod at (33,29) but denied by fungus
New Former at DataDeCentral() Moved to (29,27) and finished farm there.

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	17-06-2004 04:19									#68
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Chopper to Carnoustie - will rest there to fully heal

St Andrews new former south out of base. Will head to 9:67 and prep a sensor for a new base there

Mindworm pops pod, reveals monolith, gets lifecycle upgrade

Miner trips over some old Unity Wreckage - can't find cache of ec's - will be sent to other wreckage debris to sift thru it.

Scout and AA on divergence path (on automatic) will meet up in 2 turns at 8:66

Start the Weather Paradigm at St Andrews

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	17-06-2004 14:20									#69
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How to get the weather paradigm
Chapter 1
WP == mins
Chapter 2
Workers working forests == mins
Chapter 3
Pop growth + Drone control == workers

I wonder why the WP was started before the drone control was up...

	17-06-2004 14:42									#70
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Scout patrol at U2 moves to U1 and rehomes.
Scout patrol 53,29 to 53,27
Unity rover at 57,33 to 59,33
Scout rover pops a pod at 54,52. Gets cloned.
Clone moves to 56,50

U2 Colony pod full rushed, stockpile in queue.
Scout patrol from U2 disbands at U1 (Rover can be garrison)
I'm disbanding all these Spatrols so I can get those coastal bases up faster. They are imperative to beating the EG.
Googlie is certain to switch the WP to the EG, so I'll need Ships to contact everyone and destroy the tech nest that Sven has built.
Then the effects of the EG will be mitigated.

AAs move up, end the turn.

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	17-06-2004 18:19									#71
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Scout at DataDeCentral() set to sleep to repair itself.
Probe -> (29,31)
Scout again fails to pop pod at (33,29)
Both formers -> (28,28) and begin work on farm.
OptiCommons() production changed to a Colony Pod from a scout patrol.

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	17-06-2004 18:49									#72
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Turn 2110

OPEN TURN
Miner moves to 7:57
Scout moves south to 8:66, AA north to 8:69 – they’ll unite next turn
Former #3 also moves to 8:66 (I guess I could have had it build roads as it moved – would save time when the colony pod is moving to its location eventually)
Chopper stays in Carnoustie
Mindworm heads south towards the pod on 13:75 (will pop next turn)
END TURN

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	17-06-2004 19:22									#73
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	17-06-2004 19:44									#74
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O_O
16 years until I get NLM? Ack!
Oh well - 2-1-4 can still take down Sven!

-Go turn-
Scout patrol 53,27 to 52,26, still goin' for the pod
AAs chuggin' along
Scout 54,52 -> 56,50
Rover guards U1 so it can grow and work a tile
U2 produces formers while I think of something better to produce

Pretty uneventful turn, really.

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	17-06-2004 19:56									#75
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Probe -> (29,33)
Scout again fails to pop pod at (33,29)
Formers finish farm
Scout -> (29,29)

END TURN

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	17-06-2004 20:48									#76
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Chaunk,

I checked up on something I vaguely remember reading here. Units moving with partial move aren't more likely to move if there's another unit there. The probability appears to stay the same.

Instead moving into fungus where there's another unit there, don't get the addtional bounce (something I found out from watching the ACDG drones infiltration).

	17-06-2004 20:52									#77
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-tests it himself-
My Unity rover with 1 movement point moves more easily into fungus with the other Unity rover there

My CPod with 1/3 of a movement point moves into fungus more reliably with another unit there

It seems to double the probabilities!
I'd do more testing, but I have enough info to work with.

* Enigma_Nova resumes trying to stay awake longer than Kody

	17-06-2004 20:57									#78
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What I'm saying it removes the fungus bonuce, but it doesn't change the partial move bonuce.

I think Chaunk mentioned something about a partial move bounce. However, he's deleted the old post. I meant to check the claim about a week ago, but then the ACDG forums opened up and I just HAD to read every single post in there.

	17-06-2004 21:03									#79
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Best to generate spam in another thread. Googlie will look at the reply count and think his turn has been played for him!

	18-06-2004 07:52									#80
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Ytyke – turn 2111

OPEN TURN

Mindworm pops pod – gets 75 ec’s – yeah – moves east and encounters another mindworm, which it disposes of, netting 10 ec’s from the planetpearls (who buys these planetpearls anyway?)

Miner moves towards last piece of Uniuty wreckage

Scout on rendezvous path for the AA decided to pop pod, and exposes a monolith. A warm and fuzzy morale upgrade ensues

Former #1 has completed its forestry task and is headed to 5:49 to prep for a base there
Former # 2 starts a forest on the sunny tile, 7:63
Former #3 will reach its assigned tile - 10:68 – next turn and commence the base preparation there

Chopper goes on an exploratory sortie to see if it can sniff out any mindworms

Secrets doesn’t need any more lab points (30 needed and 30 accrued) so reset the sliders to 40-10-60 to eliminate inefficiency

END TURN

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	18-06-2004 07:53									#81
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and here's the 2111 turn:

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	18-06-2004 09:31									#82
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Play that turn!
~
Googlie, Chaunk - you guys are pretty good at this.
Did I make a stuffup in moving my pods over to the MJ so soon?

	18-06-2004 10:20									#83
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Since I won't have NLM in time, I'm building my Colony Pod where it stands - on the Nut bonus. I'll have formers working the Monsoon Jungle before the coastal pods arrive.
My base is called U3 (for less than obvious reasons)

AAs closer to home
Scout moves closer to pod at the peninsula
Rushing the Cpod at U1 fully, Stockpile in queue.
Sending my Rover north towards another pod
Rovers are crossing PlanetNeck, looking for pods

Colony pod moves to Overflow Ridge.
U2 production change to a Colony Pod.

Due to my low tech rate and my 3 AAs, I could take the HGP and expand horizontally or the WP and expand vertically.
Then again, I won't gain anything by denying Googlie of a secret project, save for the project itself.

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	18-06-2004 10:46									#84
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and here's a 10 year comparison from 2101 till 2111

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	18-06-2004 10:49									#85
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Oh thanks Googlie!

	18-06-2004 10:54									#86
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(Well, it's actually an 11 year comparison, as I couldn't find an E_N turn for 2110 - so I progressed my turn thru to 2112 for E_N and decucted his energy accumulation for the year's turnover. Somewhat unscientific, but I'll do the next one at 2125 with better data)

	18-06-2004 14:43									#87
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Those are some amazing pod pops.

Also he managed to pop a nut bonus under his first base from a pod.

	18-06-2004 15:43									#88
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Got lucky. Stuff happens like that every once in a great while.
Do you think I'd be taking down Googlie without a lot of help from the pod lotto god?

You should see the Unit Clone Turn from Life is only a Game. W00h00!

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	18-06-2004 18:37									#89
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Probe attempts to pop pod at (29,35). Fails
Scout -> (31,29)
Formers -> DataDeCentral(). I wanted to move them to (25,29) but no dice. Aiming for a base at (23,29), to allow me two on the river, at (23,33) and also (19,33). X Geoff's the spot is marking my next base location should I fail to remove the fungus from (23,29) in time. Actually, its quite likely there'll be one on both at the same time.
Scout at (31,29) again fails to pop the pod. Gonna have to give him a pay cut...

END TURN

Kody: I can only say that in my experience units with partial movement seem more likely to enter a square if theres alreay a unit in it. I've not tested it, so it may be a false assumption. I didn't delete the post though, its there...

http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...621#post3037621

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	18-06-2004 18:58									#90
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2112 turn

OPEN TURN

Discover Secrets of the Human Brain

Select Centauri Empathy as the free tech

Commence researching Industrial Base

Toyed with switching to Green (40 ec’s) Produces a Paradigm Economy- no loss to inefficiency (+ 4 effic and +3 Planet) and if I reset sliders to 10/10/80 I get zero income but tech every 6 years … BUT … growth severely hampered (eg, under Simple, Carnoustie will produce next pop in 3 turns, with Green it’ll be 7 turns) I can’t afford to get behind in pop growth, so stay as Simple

Move scout to cover AA, now just 1 tile south of St Andrews

Former #1 continuing on path to new base site
Former #2 continues foresting sunny tile
Former #3 reaches destination, commences sensor array

Miner now just 1 tile away from destination

Mindworm frolics in the fungus, heading towards new Jerusalem to pay Miriam a visit (prolly around 15 turns or so thru the fungus, unless waylaid by mindworms on the way)

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