13-06-2004 11:02									#151
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quote: Originally posted by Tingkai HK. Planning on moving back to Toronto in the fall.

w00t, orgy.

	13-06-2004 11:10									#152
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The problem is that if I register to vote then I might be considered a resident of Canada by Revenue Canada. That would mean I have to pay Canadian taxes on my Hong Kong income.

	13-06-2004 11:11									#153
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quote: Probably the same number as the anti-kyoto crowd.

Ah, then the polls are meaningless...

	13-06-2004 11:18									#154
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Hmmh, maybe I should look into voting, but I'm really concerned about getting taxed. If I had to pay Canadian income tax on my earnings for the past seven years, I'd be bankrupt.

	13-06-2004 11:20									#155
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If you were a resident of HK then you don't owe any Canadian taxes on HK earnings.

	13-06-2004 11:20									#156
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quote: Originally posted by Asher w00t, orgy.

	13-06-2004 11:25									#157
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quote: Originally posted by KrazyHorse If you were a resident of HK then you don't owe any Canadian taxes on HK earnings.

It's not clear cut. Must of us would assume that if we're not residing in Canada then we're not a resident, but we're dealing with the government.

There is no specific legal definition of a resident. You can be considered a resident if you have "social ties with Canada (such as memberships in Canadian recreational and religious organizations), a Canadian passport, memberships in Canadian unions or professional organizations, a driver's license from a province or territory of Canada.

I talked to a Revenue Canada guy I knew in Penticton and he says not to worry, the government wouldn't care about a small fry like me, but then he said I wouldn't really know until I filed my first income tax when I returned.

	13-06-2004 20:40									#158
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quote: Originally posted by notyoueither I think Martin is in the process of complete self-immolation. A Tory majority is not out of the question, and his continued wrapping of the flag around himself and 'Liberal' ideas (and corruption) is driving more people in the direction of Harper and Duceppe. Ironic, but that is the sin bin reaction in action when accompanied by gross misconduct.

That's exactly what I'm seeing from the Liberal campaign. It's been an absolute train-wreck. Martin's been behind Harper on every policy announcement, and can't seem to articulate any reason for Canadians to vote for him without resorting to saying that the Conservatives will be bad for Canada. That just feeds back into Harper's momentum since he's been staying away from the "flag-wrapping" and condemning Martin for doing so. The debate tomorrow may tell the tale; Martin's going to need an outstanding performance to pull out of his slide.

I don't think Chretien could've done this any better if he'd actually planned it -- leave behind the one poision pill and watch it rot away all of Martin's election chances. (Wasn't the A-G's sponsorship report originally supposed to be released in November, but got delayed when Chretien prorogued Parliament? Maybe Chretien did plan this thing out after all...)

Now if Harper could just muzzle his wingnuts.

	13-06-2004 20:58									#159
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quote: Originally posted by optimus2861 Now if Harper could just muzzle his wingnuts.

I think Harper shot himself in the foot. He made too many promises. People are moving away from Conservatives. Their support has peaked, and its below the combined support given to the Alliance/PC in the last election (31% now compared to a combined 37% in 2000).

New numbers based on CTV poll: http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNe...?hub=TopStories

In BC, Harper has really blown it. The Alliance/PC took 57% of the vote in 2000. The Conservatives are now only polling 34%. Same story in Manitoba and Saskatchewan. In Ontario, the Conservatives haven't made any gains.

The Conservatives should be doing a lot better, but they've hit a wall.

The Liberals are losing strength with each passing day because Martin is just offering the same old promises.

The NDP now have a chance to charge up the middle, but the question is whether they will see their opportunity. They need to shift into high gear. If each NDP supporter can get one person to switch to the NDP then they can win the election.

With the Conservatives stagnating and the Liberals in decline, the possibility is real for an NDP election win.

	13-06-2004 21:07									#160
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I doubt the NDP will be winning this election. Jack Layton is crap

	13-06-2004 21:25									#161
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quote: Originally posted by Tingkai In Ontario, the Conservatives haven't made any gains.

Outside of Toronto (22 seats) the Liberals are in very serious trouble in Ontario.

quote: If each NDP supporter can get one person to switch to the NDP then they can win the election. With the Conservatives stagnating and the Liberals in decline, the possibility is real for an NDP election win.

That is dreaming in colour. Have you considered the nightmare scenario for the NDP? If this becomes a two party race the NDP runs the risk of being squeezed severely.....

Regardless, the NDP will not form a government b/c they will need huge seat totals in Ontario. With the legacy of Bob Rae the NDP will be hard pressed to gather any significant seats here.

	13-06-2004 21:25									#162
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Glad you could join us with your insightful comments.

	13-06-2004 21:29									#163
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Sarcasm or legit?


The thread (long as it is) was interesting in that the evolution of the campaign can be seen in the posts..

	13-06-2004 21:37									#164
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Wezil: That was mean for the nuke boy, not for you.

	13-06-2004 21:39									#165
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So, how many points do I get for that bait?

	13-06-2004 21:41									#166
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quote: Originally posted by Wezil That is dreaming in colour. Have you considered the nightmare scenario for the NDP? If this becomes a two party race the NDP runs the risk of being squeezed severely..... Regardless, the NDP will not form a government b/c they will need huge seat totals in Ontario. With the legacy of Bob Rae the NDP will be hard pressed to gather any significant seats here.

Well, speaking of Bob Rae, before he got elected no one believed that the NDP had a snowball chance in hell of winning.

Beside, Bob Rae is long-time history. People in Ontario are much more likely to think of the current Ontario Liberal government and its broken promises.

I don't think the NDP will capitalise on their opportunity because they're too busy in the trenches to see what is happening, and because they don't believe they can win. But that doesn't change the fact that the opening is there to be exploited.

	13-06-2004 21:44									#167
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Ahh, np.

Didn't think I warranted a drive-by sarcasm shot, but....

Btw, why is there no/little talk of the whole Charter/notwithstanding issue?

I'm perplexed by the Liberal position:

The Charter is not a flawed document therefor you should not use the 'notwithstanding clause'.



The notwithstanding clause is in the very document the Liberals claim is perfect. How can its use be wrong?

Also, keep in mind it was a Liberal government that enacted the Charter (notwithstanding clause and all...).

Can anyone explain how they can square this circle?

	13-06-2004 21:55									#168
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quote: Originally posted by Tingkai Well, speaking of Bob Rae, before he got elected no one believed that the NDP had a snowball chance in hell of winning.

Quite right. We were mad as hell at David Peterson and the Tories were still in their post-Davis funk. That said, the 'protest vote' we made turned disastrous for this province. We won't make that mistake again (hence the two party race I mentioned above).

quote: Beside, Bob Rae is long-time history. People in Ontario are much more likely to think of the current Ontario Liberal government and its broken promises.

Might be your age speaking, but it really wasn't that long ago and the damage the Rae NDP government did, took years to mend. We remember. Bank on it.

quote: I don't think the NDP will capitalise on their opportunity because they're too busy in the trenches to see what is happening, and because they don't believe they can win. But that doesn't change the fact that the opening is there to be exploited.

Again I agree to a point. I think there may be opportunity to pick up some seats (if the two party race doesn't materialize). We disagree on the extent of the opening however. I see very few NDP seats in this province. Perhaps a seat or two in the southwest and a couple in TO if the Liberal support there follows the rest of the province and starts declining (essential for Jumpin Jack to win his seat btw).

I won't pretend to have my finger on the pulse of the rest of the nation however. How the NDP will fare outside Ontario, I will leave to others to predict...

	13-06-2004 22:18									#169
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Rae had the bad luck of being elected premier when the North American economy was in a recession. He took a lot of heat for things he couldn't control. The other thing that really killed him was photo radar.

Following up on the NDP will to win, of the people who plan to vote NDP, only 12% believe the NDP could win. 79% of Liberal supporters say their party will win. 55% of Conservative supporters say the conservatives will win.

What I find interesting is that the Liberals are still polling 40% in Ontario, even though one poll found that 51% of Ontarians say their opinion of Martin has worsened (48% nationwide).

15% of Ontarians say their opinion of Layton has worsened (13% nationwide). 18% for Harper (17% nationwide)

	13-06-2004 22:28									#170
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Rae and the NDP used lots of excuses to explain/justify their bad government, but in the end we saw them for what they were - excuses (as McGuinty is trying to do now).

Photo radar was a sympton of the party's main fault (tax and spend).
You neglected to mention 'Rae Days'....? Even NDP'ers were pissed at that one.

The Liberal number in Ontario I find suspect. I would trust it more if the TO numbers were taken out of the equation. There is more anger outside TO than in the city, although my guess is that Liberal support in Toronto will break as well before the 28th.

	13-06-2004 23:12									#171
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	13-06-2004 23:23									#173
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I'm not getting the attachment...

Was it funny?

	13-06-2004 23:31									#174
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They're Marijuana Party leaflets.

	13-06-2004 23:38									#175
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	14-06-2004 05:08									#176
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	14-06-2004 05:58									#177
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quote: Originally posted by Tingkai With the Conservatives stagnating and the Liberals in decline, the possibility is real for an NDP election win.

The NDP couldn't win this election if they were led by the lovechild of Wayne Gretzky and Jesus Christ himself (or would that just be masturbation? ).

The only way I could see the NDPs winning an election in this country would be if the Libs become totally defunct and the NDP realigns to become the new dominant centre-left party. With the platform that they have now, they can but only hope for a third place prize (and they won't even get that, thanks to Le Bloc).

	14-06-2004 06:00									#178
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Klein pondering fall vote in Alberta
Last Updated Sun, 13 Jun 2004 18:09:45
EDMONTON - Alberta Premier Ralph Klein is seriously considering calling a fall election. "I've got the burning in my belly and we want to get it done," he said.

"You know we were planning on March anyways. I don't know that two or three months will make much difference anyways. But I haven't made up my mind yet."


While a vote in March would continue the practice of the past two elections, going to the polls in the fall would save the government about $3 million because it would render two byelections unnecessary.

Moreover, a fall election would also avoid possible conflicts with two big events – the province's 2005 centennial celebrations, and the Queen's visit.




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We'll have to dig up some Alberta polling numbers pretty soon, but I'll be SHOCKED if the provincial Libs make any gains this fall.

I actually might vote provincial NDP when Ralphy calls. They're a bit less extremist than their federal cohorts, and Brian Mason may be the most responsible member of the Legislative Assembly.

Plus, then I can wear a Raj Against The Machine t-shirt. I missed out on it the first time around!

	14-06-2004 06:04									#179
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Aaaaaaaaaaaaand the first big debate is tomorrow. En francaise.

And the Greens aren't invited. Dang. I really don't understand that. They have a candidate in every riding; they should get a podium.

Hopefully next time.

	14-06-2004 07:29									#180
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Because a handfull of media executives are more qualified than the rest of us Canadians to decide who gets several millions of dollars worth of promotional time. So they should get to influence the results, but nobody else should.