09-06-2004 03:49									#1
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what level is the highest you can win most of the time?

	09-06-2004 10:24									#2
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okay, fess up.

who here is going to admit to chieftan

	09-06-2004 10:51									#3
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I have voted Demigod.
I have won Deity once. Not that I tried oftenly.

The bad start on Deity bugs me, it's pherhaps challenging, but not really enjoyable.

	09-06-2004 11:00									#4
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From an average start I can beat Deity about 9/10 times. From an average start on Sid I lose about 9/10.

	09-06-2004 12:11									#5
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I voted Monarch

	09-06-2004 17:36									#6
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I voted Regent. I have never been able to beat CIV or SMAC on the highest level.

	09-06-2004 17:44									#7
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quote: From an average start I can beat Deity about 9/10 times. From an average start on Sid I lose about 9/10.

Remind me never to play a PBEM against you or the AU mod Panel again.


I play emperor, but I don't like playing beyond the middle ages, since I no longer have a hole to climb out of. That is the fun bit of this game for me.

	09-06-2004 19:16									#8
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In civ2 I always easily beated deity.
I think I can beat any human, no matter what level.
The thing is just that on sid/deity the AI get such a huge start that it's not fun anymore.

The biggest part of the game I'm busy catching up, and when I catched up I walk over them easily since I became insanely big.
There's hardly a moment when the game is equal to me on deity / sid.

But I'll keep on trying deity, it must be possible to catch up with the AI early in the game. I just have to find out how

	09-06-2004 19:21									#9
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quote: Originally posted by CyberShy I think I can beat any human, no matter what level.

Oh yeah? Wanna give it a try?

	09-06-2004 21:34									#10
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I'll put it this way. I have gotten past Chieftan, but I won't say how far. (I'm glad the vote isn't connected with the post.) Considering the challenges I face now, I do not even think about playing the upper levels, let alone winning them. In fact, if I hadn't read turn by turn descriptions in various diferent threads, I wouldn't believe all you people are really winning those upper levels.

And as for playing MP with you people that do win up there in the stratosphere, no way. I may be silly, but I'm not stupid. Well, maybe the "stupid" part is up to debate if you ask my cats, but I would sure feel stupid watching you folks clobber me like a game of Whack-a-Mole.

I used to think I was a pretty darn good game player until I met Civ3 and you folk. If life keeps handing me lessons in humility, I may finally figure it out some day.

	09-06-2004 22:01									#11
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quote: Originally posted by MotownDennis Oh yeah? Wanna give it a try?

Sure, but first I need to setup my network in such a way that I can play online. I'm behind a router with 3 pc's

	09-06-2004 22:57									#12
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I haven’t lost a Monarch game since the first few games I moved up (and didn’t so much lose those as not hang around to see them out after fatal mistakes were costing me big time). At this point I win near every game at nearly all victories at will. Yet, I still manage to run into big problems when sticking my toe in the Emperor level pool. Go figure.

	10-06-2004 01:14									#13
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I'm too kinda stuck 'tween Monarch and Emperor. Win easily on Monarch most of the time, get squashed early on on Emperor.

	10-06-2004 01:35									#14
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I voted Emporer, but whatever level im playing at corruption is always set to 40%. Not sure how much difference this makes, as the default corruption level seems so high that I only ever played a couple of games with it.

	10-06-2004 01:42									#15
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There is very little direct correllation to how well a player does in SP vs MP. You can (and sometimes have to to win at the higher levels) do things against the AI that just would never work against a competent human.

	10-06-2004 02:25									#16
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quote: Originally posted by CyberShy I think I can beat any human, no matter what level.

You could try playing PBEM vs alexman/Sir Ralph I'll gurantee you'll have plenty of challenge. No need to config routers for PBEM

	10-06-2004 02:31									#17
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Conqueror is right, alexman is one of the best players at this site. While you can out think the AI, (some) humans understand the game mechanics perfectly...

	10-06-2004 02:32									#18
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Ah, the actual question was left unanswered, and instead i posted something off the topic as usual

Demigod, as i recall having lost only one Demi game (AU 502).

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quote: Originally posted by Krill Conqueror is right, alexman is one of the best players at this site. While you can out think the AI, (some) humans understand the game mechanics perfectly...

I'm gonna add Nathan(Nbarclay), DeepO, Dominae to that list too.

	10-06-2004 05:25									#20
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Nice distribution. I voted Monarch, its the first level where the Ai doesn't get hideous bonuses, so my "no tech whoring" rules and my style of play allow me to win there.

	10-06-2004 05:27									#21
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Also I have corruption and pollution modded out in the form of giving every building the "reduces" attribute. Made some hp scale changes to.

I remember a discussion in which people were asking why there wasn't more strategy dicussion, I proposed that it was because everyone is modding their game. Some people winning on Monarch difficulty with corruption and pollution will have to struggle more for their win then I will(whack-a-mole pollution and worthless cities beyond a certain point).

	10-06-2004 07:20									#22
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Well, I'd sure love to get in on some PBEM games with anyone who thinks they're the best.

The few I've done have been with players who weren't quite as committed as me.

	10-06-2004 10:46									#23
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quote: Originally posted by Conqueror You could try playing PBEM vs alexman/Sir Ralph I'll gurantee you'll have plenty of challenge. No need to config routers for PBEM

Well, pherhaps I should join my first PBEM game indeed.
But I wonder, if I have only 1 hour to play, PBEM must take years.......

	10-06-2004 11:08									#24
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as for me I can beat Monarch. For some reason I have never even attempted any higher level. But I have more fun at Regent. It allows me to play fast and loose. And have room for mistakes.

	10-06-2004 21:17									#25
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Pre-conquest (never really played Conquest):

I can beat emperor from just about any start, say except Aeson's little show-off thread.

Deity, I will look for a decent start on this level, nothing special, just decent.
IE: river, one or two shielded grass, a lux within reach (not next to starting position, but close enough to someday get it) and a bonus close to the start (preferably cow )
If I have those, chances are I will win. (normal map, 8 civs)
For me deity isn't really fun though, the wictory is sweeter but the game itself feels more like work than play.

	17-06-2004 06:22									#26
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WHAT??? You mean you can actually WIN the game??
I confess that I'm new to C3C, so am still getting used to all of the rules. I do pretty well in chieften, but I haven't finished any games yet !

Oh and, BTW, I am NOT ashamed that I recently got my ASS KICKED, in the Ancient Age, by a Babylon/Portugal Alliance I didn't mind, though, coz after a year of playing civ2 TOT's dumb AI, it was actually a relief to see the AI sides actually commit sufficient forces to my destruction !

Yours,
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	17-06-2004 07:51									#27
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Ah ToT I should install it again one of these days.

	17-06-2004 08:03									#28
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Beating sid and diety are easy... Just survive until the industrial age with a mediocre empire. The ai isn't very productive with its factories, so even with its free production bonus you can outproduce them 2-1 or more if you micromanage.
But winning and still having fun? I would say demigod.

	17-06-2004 09:03									#29
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Banana.

	17-06-2004 10:24									#30
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What an excellent looking Gaussian in the results so far!

Chieftain 2
Warlord 3
Regent 9
Monarch 16
Emperor 8
Demigod 3
Deity 2
Sid 0