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rah: Then why are you voting for somebody who was taking the time to try and decipher the clues? Just goes to show the reward you get for doing any work, I suppose. I don't consider it in-flavor to help after being executed, so enjoy figuring out the mafia on your own.

Hercules: Now your vote I accept. That's a crazy theory that I'd come up with! Shame it's not actually correct, but whatever.

Looks like ljcvetko can advance, 7 votes is plenty. Just goes to show the oppressiveness of the system to wipe out the true revolutionaries while letting the nobles and rich run wild.

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I can see a certain ADG's signature that needs to be updated.


Not really... it's already update

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still havent seen a single clue so sticking to guesiing ...

Snowfire no reasons, jsut voting...


That's not guessing, that's docpiling.

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Not really... it's already update



Why the change?

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The link in the sign goes to the thread where I'm talking about this

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rah: Then why are you voting for somebody who was taking the time to try and decipher the clues? Just goes to show the reward you get for doing any work, I suppose. I don't consider it in-flavor to help after being executed, so enjoy figuring out the mafia on your own.


Learn to decipher the clues better and this wouldn't happen.

Naw, when I'm busy at work, I usually just pile.
Staying in the game longer sometimes takes priority over actually catching the mafia sometimes. You can't win if you're not in the game, and piling can guarentee that you survive another round. Of course, after having said that, I'll probably be the next mafia victim.

Nothing personal.

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Classic rah
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OK, seems the end of the line for Snowfire.

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rhomboid wood frame
wood was exposed to intense heat for a short period of time


Clues related to the previous murder, namely the poisoning mafia.


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barrière du Trône
Place de Grève
small mammals such as mice, rats, weasels, etc.
Jade figurine


Clues related to the flogging mafia.

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Weasels eh? Must be rah then.

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Well, one thought before being executed. If

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these relate to the poisoning Mafia... well, a wood frame (with a covering) that was exposed to intense heat... doesn't that sound like that funny kite-in-the-sky thing that Mr. Franklin made? That he claims will attract lightning? Plus, as a scientist, Mr. Franklin would certainly know about poisons...

Only thing is, the victim was killed by poisoning last round IIRC, not electrocution. Still, a thought.

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Chapter 8 – A farewell to short Corsican


In the committee of Public Safety a disputable coalition of rival factions appeared to be forming.
“Georges-Jacques, the extremism of Hébert and Hébertists is simply unacceptable”, Robespierre tried to win Danton’s support.
“I agree Maximilien. He must not be allowed to continue to prosecute whomever he chooses.”
“But we can’t do anything against him”, protested Desmoulins. “He is one of the first revolutionaries, devoted to the Jacobin cause. If we remove him, the revolution will lose the support of the Hébertists and will consequently fail. And we are so near to a complete success of our revolution.”
“If we allow Hébert to live, he can destroy the revolution with his extreme left views. Remember citizens, this is the Reign of Terror in service of the Virtue”, said Robespierre.
“Well OK Maxim. I’ll vote for Hébert’s execution. And so will Camille”, concluded Danton.

Later at Place de la Révolution, where the guillotine was ready, waiting for fiery Hébert.
“You accused me of being a monarchist. And I have committed my life to fight against tyranny. I die innocent, killed by a madman who wants to rule France alone.”
“You’ve said enough citizen Hébert, traitor of our revolution. It’s time to die.”
And having said these words, Robespierre pulled the handle and Snowfire lost his head.

The scene was observed by Dr. Guillotin and General Bonaparte.
“General Bonaparte, I have examined Mr. Jefferson’s body and I am certain now the killer did the flogging using some kind of stick. The bite marks appeared to be quite deliberate and they were consistent with bites of several species of polecats. It is a monstrous work of a deranged sadistic individual who was so extreme in his obsession that he would go to such lengths to arrange the killings in the way he did.”
“I don’t share your views Dr. Guillotin. I don’t see him as a very extreme person. In fact he might seem quite moderate. Otherwise we would have got him by now. But thanks for your findings anyway.”

********

The night was very cold. It was the beginning of April and a snow storm hit Paris. Everybody stayed inside.
The next morning the Parisians learned that Prussia had declared war on France.

Private Chauvin rushed to inform General Bonaparte about the news. He wanted to knock, but noticed the door to Bonaparte’s house was open. He entered the house and saw Hercules in the living room, sitting in a chair, next to a stove, not moving, apparently dead.

He maintained his composure and examined the crime scene thoroughly. Napoléon was wearing one slipper and one swimming fin, which was rather strange. His right hand was closed in a fist and when Chauvin opened it he noticed a piece of paper, torn from a larger sheet. The word poor was written on the paper.

“Well, we’re going to need another Commander for our army”, Robespierre made a comment about the tragic events. “Let’s choose one tomorrow in the National Assembly.”

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Name Role Status
1. Nuclear Master Roi Louis XVI Guillotined - round 4
2. Kassiopeia Reine Marie-Antoinette Guillotined - round 5
3. Spiffor M. Robespierre Alive
4. Alva M. Couthon Poisoned - round 2
5. Spaced Cowboy M. de Saint-Just Guillotined - round 2
6. Guynemer M. Danton Alive
7. Loinburger M. Desmoulins Alive
8. Vovan M. d'Églantine Alive
9. Snowfire M. Hébert Guillotined - round 7
10. Rasputin M. Necker Alive
11. Octavian X M. Brissot de Warville Poisoned - round 4
12. Jonny Marquis de Lafayette Flogged to death - round 3
13. Tuberski Comte de Sade Guillotined - round 3
14. Rah M. Guillotin Alive
15. Smiley Comte de Mirabeau Alive
16. ADG Duc de Bordeaux Alive
17. Kalius Roi Louis XVIII Alive
18. Geomodder Fürst von Metternich Flogged to death - round 5
19. Jon Miller Roi Louis XVII Flogged to death - round 1
20. Jamski Herr Feld Marschall von Blücher Guillotined - round 6
21. Chaunk Mr. W. Pitt jr. Guillotined - round 1
22. GJRamsey Mr. B. Franklin Alive
23. Theben Mr. T. Jefferson Flogged to death - round 7
24. HongHu Miss S. Hemings Poisoned - round 6
25. Hercules M. Generale N. Bonaparte Poisoned - round 8
26. Skanky Burns M. Chauvin Alive



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Darn it, -tko, I figured it out and went to go post it, and now you hurried up and killed me and made it even more obvious.

Go back to the last thread. First off, Mr. Franklin was the last person to see HongHu alive and was the one who brought everyone to see her. Secondly, never mind poisoning, it WAS electrocution. HongHu was attached to a cord (kite string), and the cross (the frame of the kite) had a piece of metal in it- the key Franklin used for his experiments. Go draw a cross with a rhombus connecting the diagonals. It's the classic picture of a kite.

If that wasn't enough, Mr. Franklin's latest killing involved the word "Poor," and we all know that he wrote/ is due to write "Poor Richard's Almanac." In fact, another of the words was "Rich." But we had enough evidence before.

rah: And oh yes, of course it was nothing personal. But understand that the poor, recently deceased Monsier Hebert was a radical proto-anarchist who was described as an "ultra-revolutionary" and cheerfully endorsed drowning enemies of the revolution. He can be rather... passionate about getting executed, let's say.

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Snowfire's right. Sorry I started the docpile that killed you, but, oh well.

GJRamsey is the mafia.

We've still got to find the flogger, but we might as well go ahead and execute the poisoner.

Who's left alive who was a moderate? I think that pretty much narrows it down to Smiley or Rah -- everybody else is either a royalist, a jacobin, or a chauvanist.

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Those evil, evil yanks. gjramsey, you won't get away with this this time around.

Of course, rah is the other Mafia.

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Well done, Ghost of Snowfire. You have me convinced again.

gjramsey, you are finished, American swine!

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Of course, rah is the other Mafia.

Actually I'm surprised you're still alive.

But you say that every game. And you'll be wrong AGAIN.


gjramsey The kite seems a bit too obvious but what the heck.

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Actually I'm surprised you're still alive.


Actually, so am I.

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But you say that every game. And you'll be wrong AGAIN.


Now, now, rah, you are confusing me with someone. I almost never live long enough to accuse you. Besides, it is Skanky I always try to blame. Or Pave if he's around. Or Hercules. You aren't first on ym blame list. And look at this game, this is the first time I blame you.

Though you must admit, the weasel evidence is pretty much pointing at you. I mean, what with small furry animals, and your avatar?

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IT"S A FERRET DAMMIT.

No self respecting ferret would associate with a rat or a weasel.

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1. Nuclear Master Executed round 4
2. Kassiopeia Executed round 5
3. Spiffor -
4. Alva Killed by mafia round 2
5. Spaced Cowboy Executed round 2
6. Guynemer gjramsey
7. Loinburger gjramsey
8. Vovan gjramsey
9. Snowfire Executed round 7
10. Rasputin -
11. Octavian X Killed by mafia round 4
12. Jonny Killed by mafia round 3
13. Tuberski Executed round 3
14. Rah gjramsey
15. Smiley gjramsey
16. ADG -
17. Kalius -
18. Geomodder Killed by mafia round 5
19. Jon Miller Killed by mafia round 1
20. Jamski Executed round 6
21. Chaunk Executed round 1
22. GJRamsey -
23. Theben Killed by mafia round 7
24. HongHu Killed by mafia round 6
25. Hercules Killed by mafia round 8
26. Skanky Burns -




gjramsey - 5 votes

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Ljube did mention something about packing in lots of clues and no red herrings. GJRamsey, here's to a unanimous vote.

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Are you sure GJRamsey doesn't have 6 votes?

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Well, the sixth vote was it.

Update in an hour.

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We are doing really bad in this game

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I'll just add to the pile: Gjramsey

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I'll just add to the pile: Gjramsey

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A unanimous docpile

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Chapter 9 - An elegant death


The next morning in the National Assembly there was a heated discussion about the wars France was plunged in by Jacobin blunders. A related topic was the appointment of the new Commander of the army. And a third topic was the revolutionary calendar. Previously they have already voted to death and guillotined gjramsey who was according to his own testimony already halfway to his grave.

“This was a pure madness to execute the last foreign representative to France. Now we’re sure to expect American declaration of war as well”, Prime Minister Comte de Mirabeau was furious.
“There can be no compromise with the virtue citizen Mirabeau. Anybody who publicly opposes the decisions of the Committee of Public Safety can be called before the same Committee to answer for his actions”, Robespierre threatened.
“It may be a good opportunity to appoint the new Army Commander now. I nominate Georges-Jacques Danton for the post”, Desmoulins proposed.

And the vote was in favour of Danton, who was given the rank of general and who assumed the command of the armed forces immediately.

Danton gave his inaugural speech.
“Time is short. We must try and organise our army to face combined troops of our opponents. The good thing is that we executed field marshal von Blücher. The bad thing is that a spy has killed our own military genius general Napoléon Bonaparte.”
“Yes, the defence of our beloved France is important. But we must not underestimate the virtue. The development of the French society is our foremost concern”, Robespierre added.
“To meet this objective, I’ve asked our own winner of the literary gold prise, our one and only devout revolutionary Philippe-François-Nazaire Fabre d'Églantine to reform our calendar. We need a new calendar, free from any influence of the church.”
“I’ve completed the new French calendar. It has 12 months of 30 days and extra days near the end of the year. The month names come from the nature.”

********

Later in a café in the city Necker, Mirabeau and Guillotin met with Duc de Bordeaux to explore the options available to those who oppose the Reign of Terror.
“I don’t know who we can count on”, Mirabeau started. “Possibly Desmoulins, surely not d'Églantine.”
“We’re few and our numbers are shrinking”, Guillotin continued. “We’re all that’s left of the great and strong Gironde. Only a shadow of its former glory.”
“Well, you shouldn’t have voted me out of office”, Necker was malicious. “I would have never allowed any of this.”
“It doesn’t matter what happened before”, Duc de Bordeaux cut the story short, “what happens next is important. I think we all agree we must try and overthrow Robespierre’s Reign of Terror.”
“OK. Robespierre has an unrivalled ability to create enemies. It’s a flaw of his character. I think we should just wait till he makes an enemy of Danton and then simply oust him”, Mirabeau made a plan.
And everybody agreed with his plan.

*******

Later that evening Fabre d'Églantine was celebrating his newly adopted calendar at a bar at Place de la Révolution. He was pretty drunk when he left the bar and headed home. He was near his home when he saw a figure before him, standing in his way. He was so drunk that he was unable to notice the spectre earlier so he almost collided with him.
“Ah, so it’s you. Well, I can’t drink with you too. I have to go to bed. I have a busy day tomorrow presenting my calendar to the people.”
“The other person said nothing and punched d'Églantine in his face so he fainted.

The next morning a guard of the Musee du Louvre found vovan completely naked, arms and legs tied, gagged and flogged to death. The guard also reported that one of the items of the regular exhibit of the museum was missing. It was a rare, ornate porcelain vase. Everybody quickly came to the scene.

“Well the last time we turned a body, there were clues underneath it”, Danton reminded everybody. “Turn the body Chauvin!”
“Yes Sir!”
And Nicolas Chauvin turned Églantine’s body. There was a membership card of the Jacobin club there. Sadly, the name was indistinguishable.

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1. Nuclear Master Roi Louis XVI Guillotined - round 4
2. Kassiopeia Reine Marie-Antoinette Guillotined - round 5
3. Spiffor M. Robespierre Alive
4. Alva M. Couthon Poisoned - round 2
5. Spaced Cowboy M. de Saint-Just Guillotined - round 2
6. Guynemer M. Danton Alive
7. Loinburger M. Desmoulins Alive
8. Vovan M. d'Églantine Flogged to death - round 9
9. Snowfire M. Hébert Guillotined - round 7
10. Rasputin M. Necker Alive
11. Octavian X M. Brissot de Warville Poisoned - round 4
12. Jonny Marquis de Lafayette Flogged to death - round 3
13. Tuberski Comte de Sade Guillotined - round 3
14. Rah M. Guillotin Alive
15. Smiley Comte de Mirabeau Alive
16. ADG Duc de Bordeaux Alive
17. Kalius Roi Louis XVIII Alive
18. Geomodder Fürst von Metternich Flogged to death - round 5
19. Jon Miller Roi Louis XVII Flogged to death - round 1
20. Jamski Herr Feld Marschall von Blücher Guillotined - round 6
21. Chaunk Mr. W. Pitt jr. Guillotined - round 1
22. GJRamsey Mr. B. Franklin Guillotined - round 8
23. Theben Mr. T. Jefferson Flogged to death - round 7
24. HongHu Miss S. Hemings Poisoned - round 6
25. Hercules M. Generale N. Bonaparte Poisoned - round 8
26. Skanky Burns M. Chauvin Alive



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Was he the poisoner?

 
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