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SnowFire is offline SnowFire
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Of course Snowfire is another great detective, so he'll know what to do.

Sadly, unlike L-L, I haven't determined the answer on the basis of two sets of clues (although L-L claimed he had it on ONE set). So, uh, onto wild intuition. I think our two security guards are innocent, at least of this crime. Would they resort to something as unmanly as pencils? Do they even know what one is?

It is definitely the kind of way a secretary might kill, though. But even more so it's the way a statisitcal analyst might kill- so perhaps DarkCloud?

(Sorry Kalius. Herc complimented my Detective skills, and I had already slowed down the game already, and going to a coin flip would have slowed it down further. Besides, as pointed out, nobody likes the CFO.)

(Oh, and as for the delay, got back home late last night- went down Thursday night and had an interview in NYC. Let's hope I actually get said job.)

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SnowFire, you just let the mafia live

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Nah. I bet the other mafia will off him in suspcion of him, saving us the work.

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Okay, so it's time for Kalius to die. I'm going to start enforcing the 24 hour rule from now on.

I'd been here earlier but Sweden - Netherlands went to the penalties

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Why don't you change yours?


Because I simplified mine, and you made yours long and ugly.

Though I must say: L-L, as SnowFire used it has a certain ring to it.

In fact, L2 is even pretty cool.

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Chapter Three

By a tight but finally decisive vote, Kalius was taken to the upper levels and thrown down to his death. Kalius refused to say a word to anyone after the result was announced, and so the bulldozer-proof front doors of the Apolyton building remained closed.

"I'm starting to wonder if this system of ours is going to be of any use at all. What will happen when the doors open? We could've murdered perfectly innocent men", Nuclear Master pondered to his colleague over yet another cup of coffee. "The mere thought makes me feel sorry we don't have any booze here to get hammered."

Vovan nodded, but said: "If we are all murdered, we won't have a chance to worry about that."

"And we can always tell the police they were suicides", Zopperoni said. "That'd be a bit underhanded, though."

"That might work. There was that girl a year or two ago. Remember her? She worked here, I think", gjramsey said. "Jumped down from the roof. That's why it is sealed nowadays."

Nuclear Master was about to ask what the girl's job was when his face turned completely red. He grabbed his throat just like Smiley had done, and collapsed on the floor.

"Poisoned? Again?" Jon Miller said and stared at the prone body.

"The only thing he's been having here was..." Vovan swallowed. "The coffee. But he made it for us! Who could've done it? Why was only he affected?"

"Maybe it's a ghost. A spectre. Of that girl", Jon Miller thought out loud.

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Name Position Status
1. Hercules Secretary of the President Present
2. Duke o' york Chief Executive Officer Present
3. :) Smiley Secretary of the CEO Poisoned - R1
4. Kalius Chief Financial Officer Defenestrated - R2
5. Theben Accountant Present
6. Jonny Accountant Present
7. DrSpike Chief Information Officer Staples and pencils - R2
8. Jon Miller Helpdesk Present
9. Skanky Burns Chief Technical Officer Present
10. Adagio IT Specialist Present
11. Method IT Specialist Present
12. SnowFire IT Specialist Present
13. rah Human Resources Manager Present
14. gjramsey Assistant HR Manager Present
15. alva Chief Recruiter Present
16. Imran Siddiqui Chief of Public Relations Present
17. Ljube-ljcvetko PR Consultant Defenestrated - R1
18. Guynemer Company Doctor Present
19. Tuberski Company Nurse Present
20. Zopperoni Chief of Marketing Present
21. Spaced Cowboy Marketing Advisor Present
22. DarkCloud Statistical Analyst Present
23. Nuclear Master Security Guard Poisoned - R3
24. Vovan Security Guard Present

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I knew I was going to be killed. This just PROVES that the Mafia is Hercules, because I was the one who initiated the voting against him.

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MEMO to all department heads.

RE: TIME SHEETS

There has been a recent increase in the amount of time sheets that have not been completed on time. Please refer to page 7 in the employee handbook.
...DEATH IS NOT A LEGITIMATE EXCUSE FOR FAILURE TO COMPLETE YOUR TIMESHEET, all occurances will result in docking from your paycheck.
We expect all managers to vigorously support this policy.

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I must say, Hercules. I mean, I can't gather any clues from the story of poisoning other than it was done through coffee. And you know, coffee, secretary; secretary, coffee. Makes sense to me, though seems almost too simple to be true.

PS: LL, sorry, I figure I may have sounded a bit harsh in that previous post. Not trying to pick on ya or anything.

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The coffee clue is as good as any. Hercules it is.
Now stop distracting me, I have some very important work to attend to. Method is winning this LAN match.

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Ok then, Hercules it is.

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MEMO to all corporate officers and employees:

Due to the increase in foodstuff and beverage-related premature contract terminations, it is highly advised that all recipients of this memo refrain from any further consumption of food or drink while on the premises.

Dr. Guynemer, Chief Medical Engineer

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Clues in this new murder:

Again, a color is featured--this time red. Perhaps a signal that the prior references to green were nothing more than coincidence? Or an indication of unprofitable activities? Or, a long shot perhaps, but again an avatar clue (Skanky Burns)?

Talk of an old suicide (homicide?), a woman who threw herself from the roof. Perhaps another subtle hint towards a secretary, or a nurse, stereotypical occupations of the fairer sex?

I suspect Hercules is likely being set up; killing Nuclear Master would be too foolish a maneuver if he were really the killer. I suspect my assistant, Tuberski.

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Uh... one problem with the "Herc did it" theory.

"The only thing he's been having here was..." Vovan swallowed. "The coffee. But he made it for us! Who could've done it? Why was only he affected?"

Seems like Nuclear Master made his own coffee instead of letting the secretary make it. Not to mention that everybody drinking from the pot didn't all keel over. Meaning one of
A) The coffee is a total red herring, the poisoning is from another source.
B) The pot used had some subtance that reacted with NM specifically. Can Guynmeyer check NM's medical file next round?
C) It was one of those "two-part" poisons where two normally harmless chemicals combine to kill you. So maybe caffeine + zurblechot(???) = death, and we need to find who's handing out the (???).
D) Someone with magical powers poisoned only NM's cup. Was it the spirit of the dead girl? Or maybe President Kassiopeia, who performed arcane rituals before killing himself so that he might haunt his corporation to take revenge on his employees for returning profits 12% lower than projected?

Hmm. A true mystery.

Edit: I now see Guynmeyer's post. Hmm, makes sense to me; a nurse might be an amatuer chemist in his spare time. Tuberski it is.

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Checking the company database of workers and occupations, I will have to blame the company doctor, Guynmeyer. Who else would have access to the vials necessary to poison others with?

Running down the list, assuming no one smuggled in their own secret batch of cyanide: The Security Guards might have access to the poison and Vovan might have had a grudge against poor Nuclear Master, and Tuberski the nurse could have stolen the pills from Guynemeyer's cabinet of course, but Guynemeyer is in the best position to use the poison.

Either that, of course, or the person supplying the coffee cups is the one who puts the poison in them... Thus the poison is not in the coffee after all, but in the cups themselves.

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PS: if Kassiopeia is using clues from posters flags- Red-Green are both part of Hercules' flag I think

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Either that, of course, or the person supplying the coffee cups is the one who puts the poison in them... Thus the poison is not in the coffee after all, but in the cups themselves.


That sounds reasonable- we've all been drinking coffee most likely. And secretaries hand out the beverages... sorry Hercules, but without better clues it looks like you're our killer.

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Due to the increase in foodstuff and beverage-related premature contract terminations, it is highly advised that all recipients of this memo refrain from any further consumption of food or drink while on the premises.

Dr. Guynemer, Chief Medical Engineer


What? No, that I cannot do. Refrain from consumption? For how long? Days? I would rather take a chance than starve to death, or die of thirst, thank you very much.

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Curious, curious... the colors may be a clue or a red herring. But green and red... could it be doctor/nurse uniforms which many times have blood splatter on them? Tuberski is my vote.

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DarkCloud: Yes, Guynmeyer is suspicious, but so is Tuberski, so you might as well vote for the one which might actually be defenestrated, no?

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Hercules

What the heck, HR has never been accused of acting logically.

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Wow! A Hercules docpile!!!

Let's see who votes next. The one who votes next is surely the mafia.

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PS: LL, sorry, I figure I may have sounded a bit harsh in that previous post. Not trying to pick on ya or anything.




No problem vovan

Tell me something, you're not really American, are you?

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Vovan, I've just noticed you added mafia 20 to the history chart

However, please note that Frozzy is Kalius and china_444 changed his name to china444.

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Ok Got one.

Dark Cloud: My flag colours are green and orange by the way.

Anyway the clue is 'a spectre' referring to the girl. I mean why put that word there. It is not a word Jon Miller commonly uses.

So popped 'spectre' into Google and about the third page over here's this SpectreBlog thing signed off 'yours in Reagan'.

Now check Imran Siddiqui same thing in his profile 'in Reagan'.

At least that's one gone

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Nice catch, whether it's right or wrong.

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Sounds like job for a nurse... right Tuberski, right?

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Interesting about the colours motif. It seems that it is actually 'pale green'.

Pale green in some context ie Orchid is called 'Tubercled'

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The man's on fire.

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Ahh heck, Hercules Secretaries are as evil as IT folk

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Well, you might just be on to something there, Hercules. Though now I googled for Tubercled, because honestly I did not know that word, and found a grass, named...

Tubercled Spike-rush

If it wasn't for the fact that ol' Spike's already dead...

 
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