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Last Conformist is offline Last Conformist
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I'm another social drinker (except this week, during which I'm on medication - against coughing of all things - which supposedly combines very badly with alcohol. It does slow my reactions to a perceptible degree, so I'm in no mood to experiment).

I do drink alot of coffee. I've never touched any illegal drug, and have a deep aversion to tobacco; I've never tried it in any form, but I'm sensitive to smoke. Sometimes have to leave places because of too much smoke in the air.

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once upon a time a monkey ate two many odd shrubberies, mushrooms, fruits, and vegetables... and suddenly he realized that he was and actually ocassionally realizes he still is...

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Im 17 and Ive never smoked anything, drank anything alcoholic, nor have I ever snorted anything. I havent injected anything either, nor abused OTC medicine or RX Meds, nor inhaled/huffed anything. Im squeaky clean, so squeaky clean you could shine metal on me, and yet no one seems to appreciate it except myself. WTF? Drug free and proud my buttocks.

Shall I partake of an alcoholic beverage the next time my family...uh celebrates?

What does alcohol do anyway? How does it change your thought process?

Perhaps I should continue my life squeaky clean, what do you guys think?


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Originally posted by Lazarus and the Gimp Call BS all you want. Red wine is good for you in moderation.

I never understood this. Is the alcohol in the red wine beneficial, and if so, why only that of red wine; or is there some other substance in red wine that is good for you, and if so is it in anything else, perhaps which isn't alcoholic?

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Well I find I get drunk faster on red wine, ml for ml than vodka, though vodka has ~4X the alcohol content, so there must be something else.

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Nevertheless I think I feel a bit of an addiction already, but I wont be so stupid to start smoking regularly.


This sort of thinking is probably due to the alcohol.

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Just to clarify: I actually have drunk alcohol before.









































I was four, and I thought my grandfather's bourbon was apple juice

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Thank you, medical experts.

Proof?

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My Bio 2 teacher explained that alcohol breaks down plaque in your arteries.

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Space, you're only 17?

At 17 years old, I was a virgin, I haven't drank alcohol except for occasional sips of wine at family events and at the church (blood of the Christ, that kind of thing), and I haven't done anything. The most addictive thing would be caffenine.

Now, fast forward 10 years later... I'm definitely not a virgin, I've drank alcohol until I blacked out, toked my brains out, tossed acid, rolled on 'E', snorted special K, did crack, tripped on 'shrooms. Heck, I even sold greenies for a short time and acted as a middleman for even longer period of time.

Most of those were during my college years and ever since I graduated I pretty much have a glass of red wine with my dinner and there's occasional night out with friends.

If you've not tried anything by the end of your college years, that's something to be proud of.

Bottom line, it's your decision. You don't want to do it, don't do it. No matter what your peers may say. If you do decide to go for it, go in with your eyes open. Be aware of any possible consquences of your actions. That's my only advice.

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Oerdin, I don't know the religious schools man.. I saw this documentary about Amish kids... I learned that when they reach certain age, they can dress like they want for a while, party like animals and have cars and they can then decide if they want to be Amish for life or give it up. They partied with other Amish kids let me tell you those were some wild parties, I'm not talking about alcohol, I'm talking about drugs, hard drugs and a lot.

Few of the kids got into huge troubles with getting drugs and not being able to pay at the end and cops and all that. It's like Catholic girls, they're the nastiest when it comes down to it.


Hey! Do you have the title of that documentary? I've been looking for it.

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Yep, that's me as well. Lived a clean and sober life. Yep, yep.


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What does alcohol do anyway? How does it change your thought process?

Perhaps I should continue my life squeaky clean, what do you guys think?


Space, don't start, you've experienced Zylka.

Besides, I have substance abuse problems I wish I didn't have... Stay clean and sober, it ain't worth it.

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hey whaleboy, thats a phatty, but you need to stuff it more - it needs more girth. it sorta tapers off at the end.


That's the idea, if you put more weed into the top-middle part, and less at the roach end (with less tobacco there for even burning) you don't waste any weed when the smoke starts to get hot. The roach end is the thin end by the way, you light the end with the long twisted paper thing.

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you do spliffs?

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I use orange bud, strong quantity and golden virginia.



orange bud is off the hook

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you do spliffs?


If you wish, I just roll what works best for me.

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orange bud is off the hook


How do you mean? I find it quite a bit stronger than skunk but it doesn't seem to have unpleasant rush of white widow.

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If you wish, I just roll what works best for me.



i put spliffs at the bottom - way too harsh, and its got tobacco which i dont like

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How do you mean? I find it quite a bit stronger than skunk but it doesn't seem to have unpleasant rush of white widow.


'off the hook' means like awesome. we have a connection through the 420 Club (govt medicinal weed program in CA)
and thats how we get weed covered in specs of orange, and weed glazed in white.

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i put spliffs at the bottom - way too harsh, and its got tobacco which i dont like


Fair enough. Still its pretty strong stuff and I wouldn't want to do it in blunts, though I really need to buy a proper bong (been using bottles lately, not really good enough).

The white glazed weed is going to be amazing! How do you smoke yours?

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Fair enough. Still its pretty strong stuff and I wouldn't want to do it in blunts, though I really need to buy a proper bong (been using bottles lately, not really good enough).



what? no bong? thats crucial

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The white glazed weed is going to be amazing! How do you smoke yours?


we have this amazing bong.it changes color as you take more rips (blue, orange, green, yellow etc) it holds water in the bottom part, and ice in the long cylindrical part, with a carb. this is probably the best way, although vap works too, since its pure thc and theres so much on the white glazed. straight outta the pipe is prolly good too, but you dont like that.

id say, first time try in a bong (get one now,) then try vap, then try gravity bong. that'll knock you out.

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we have this amazing bong.it changes color as you take more rips (blue, orange, green, yellow etc) it holds water in the bottom part, and ice in the long cylindrical part, with a carb. this is probably the best way,


Jesus I need your bong!

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id say, first time try in a bong (get one now,) then try vap, then try gravity bong. that'll knock you out.


Looks good! What's a gravity bong?

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oohhh man. the gravity bong is the strongest hit ever.

take a plastic two liter coke bottle (or pepsi or fanta, do they have two liter coke bottles in england?) empty it, and saw off the bottom 1/3 (opposite of the part where you drink it from)

now take a clean trashcan, one of those plastic personal ones you might have in a dorm room, and fill it with water (probably like 4/5 or so)

take the cap off of the empty cut 2 liter plastic bottle and put it in the water, with the cut part going in first, so that the water goes inside the plastic and fills up the bottle. hold it so that it doesnt get totally submerged.

now fashion a funnel thingy to put in the top where the cap was (i forget what its called, but you can take it from your bong and use the same one, its where u put the buddha.) you can also make one out of aluminum foil, although its harder.

for the aluminum foil one, take a piece of foil and put it over the part where the cap used to be, and poke small holes in it with the tip of a pencil. stretch it tight, and make the holes very small, and then relax it and make like a basket to put the buddha in.

anyways, once you've got that thing made, put it in the part where the cap used to be, put some weed in it, and light it.

as it burns, slowly pull the bottle out of the water. you can see the milking and smoke accumulating in the space between the water and the top of the bottle. when a sufficient area is filled (enough for say one hit by one person) take the top off.

push the bottle back into the water slowly, and let the smoke get pushed down your throat. when you've gone halfway, do the reverse, pull the bottle back out, and the smoke wil get pulled out of your lungs/throat. then reverse directions again and cash it.

make sure your lips get a tight seal over the top as to not waste any.

prepare to get blazed to a haze. one hit will get you high. two hits will smoke yourself silly.

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My good man, I am now happy!! I'll try it at my next party

To make "pot vodka", my own baby despite Drogues protestations:

Make yourself a nice strong coctail. Citrus preferably, say 65% vodka, 35% lemon/lime juice. Don't worry if you think it's strong, you wont be drinking it unless you really want to get loaded.

Anyway put it in a tall glass. Take a bong hit or a drag. Blow the smoke through a straw down to the bottom of the glass, so the smoke rises in cool creamy bubbles (hence the need for a clear drink). It sorta hangs over the liquid like oceanic mist. Take the smoke in through the straw and enjoy! It tastes of the drink and you're also taking in some alcohol vapours too. You *can* drink the liquid, but it tastes wrank, and is unworkably strong for a cocktail but hey. You'll be taking in THC from the liquid via the stomach so prepare yourself. Be careful with the alcohol, I've seen people whitey after smoking and drinking just one of these.

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Be your own man Space. Don't worry about what others are telling you to do or not do, just do what you feel is right and/or best for you.

I've never used illegal drugs, smoked, or drank alcohol either. Have no desire to do so. I'm 28, been around a lot of alcohol and drugs, so it's possible to do.

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Alcohol affects the neurotransmitters in the brain and nervous system. It interferes with the levels of some of the chemicals (Dopamine, Seratonin) with long term use, and short term inhibits/enhances the receptors for other chemicals used in the process (glutamate, gamma-aminobutyric acid).

Alcohol is a depressant. It slows down interactions for the most part.

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Alcohol in the bloodstream thins your blood, making clots less likely. Much like asprin will. There are antioxidents in Red Wine also present in the grapes (and many other foods).

There are studies which show the benefits of small doses of alcohol, and those which refute it. Heavy drinking is never good for a person physically.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/377381.stm

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"We didn't find any benefit or any harm in low-level regular drinking," he told BBC News Online.

"What we did find was that people who were drinking most had more than twice the mortality from stroke, which is not an inconsiderable effect."

He said the findings tied in with international studies that found that men in Finland who regularly drank enough to suffer a hangover and men in Russia who went binge-drinking had higher death rates.

"The bottom line is that binge drinking is not good for one."

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first - it might be wise to see if there is any alcoholism in your family, or if you have an addictive personality. For all the many of us who can enjoy social drinking, theres a small but NOT trivial minority who cannot. And for them alcohol is a major disaster.

That said the general sense seems to be that alcohol is not a health problem in MODERATION. Note that means moderation in overall consumption, but also moderation at any one time (IE binge drinking) and also being careful about alcohol combined with driving or similar activities.

Note that even for "healthful" drinkers this is a source of extra calories.

Psychological effects are mixed - not that Pace Gepaps point, for those of us with social anxiety issues the easing of social interaction by alcohol is a positive good - but note that the distance from "more at ease" to "obnoxious" is not too far for some.

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this is a source of extra calories.


your telling me!

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the distance from "more at ease" to "obnoxious" is not too far for some.


ouch!

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I don't support underage drinking

and I didn't drink until I was 22 (almost a year ago now)

drinking hasn't really added much to my life, but I do it fairly often

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