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Dang. I didn't even get to send in my vote.

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don't worry joncha- it wouldn't have mattered- a special power was used- it overrode any votes

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hmmmm forgot all about the power stuff

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Fair enough. I used my power to get Imran killed.

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Vote sent. At least I got a chance this time round.

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poor imran

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Especially since joncha unfairly accused his own party member!

BAN HIM from future party literature... it's the only way!

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Sorry Imran. That's twice now that I've killed you.

I promise, it won't happen again.

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Chapter 8: Time is Running Out

As the clock ticked down on the imprisoned ones resources, MOD Party Chairman Spaced Cowboy made the droll observation that as more of them died, the more food they had and the longer they could survive.

For that comment, the befuddled survivors put him to death, not having any better clue as to whom the Assassin was.

Then G.J. Ramsey and Nuclear Master, in the rafters, noticed a breeze blowing through their canopy. It seemed that the UN was tunneling in. Everyone would soon be freed. GJ announced the news to the others.

Later that night, everyone moved up to the rafters for safety in sleeping.

But in the morning, GJRamsey’s body was discovered hanging from the rafters, a paper noose around his neck.

Duke O’York immediately called for an “election,” noting that time was running out and that the assassin must be found as soon as possible- because it would be disgusting if the man emerged free and went through natural justice after all the evil he had wrought.

Therefore, reaching for Nuclear Master’s notepad, Duke O’York pulled a sheet from it, tore it into three halves, handed one third to Zopperoni, and another third to Nuclear Master, then scribed his choice.

Zopperoni, placing his piece into the hat regretfully shook his head. “So now we’re all dead.” He commented.

The bodyguard glared at him.

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well, there's one of each party left now...

and everyone else is wondering...

whodunit?

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duke o' yorkBodyguard (MOD)   ZopperoniPresidential Candidate (SPAM)
Nuclear MasterSecretariat (LU)
Dead
Name
Cause of Death
 
Name
Cause of Death
Theben (MOD)Neck Wounds   General Ludd (MOD)Throat Cut
Jonny (LU)Hung   Chaunk (SPAM)Shot in Head
Jon Miller (MOD)Strangled   General Ludd (MOD)Shot in Head
Urban Ranger (MOD)Strangled   Dr. Spike (LU)Bludgeoned
Skanky Burns (MOD)Choked   Imran Siddiqui (SPAM)Stabbed
Rasputin (SPAM)Strangled   Joncha (SPAM)Shot
Vovan (LU)Strangled   Spaced Cowboy (MOD)Killed
GJ Ramsey (LU)Hung   ??????
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  Round 1-General Ludd (4 votes)
     Round 2- Chaunk (3 votes)
     Round 3- General Ludd (MOD Demanded)
     Round 4- Dr. Spike (3 votes)
     Round 5- Imran Siddiqui (3 votes)
     Round 6- Joncha (MOD Demanded)
     Round 7- Spaced Cowboy (2 Votes)

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Nuclear Master- we vote privately in this game... I think you have the two confused

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I'm not wondering. I know exactly whodunit and I've been voting for him all the time.

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Nuclear Master- we vote privately in this game... I think you have the two confused

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well, only one person needs to send in his votes now, and then we'll have a winner!

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Paper noose? man, I must be a weakling!

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Since it no longer matters, then I'm going to vote in public. I'm starting to wish that I hadn't used my MOD power on General Ludd, but since he was the first mafia, then that was probably a good thing anyway.

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Does that mean it was Spaced that killed me?

Damn his bones!

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Vovan, if you can post your "killer" then since we've all voted it won't make any difference to the game and we can all be astounded at your deductive powers/laugh at your folly.

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Does that mean it was Spaced that killed me?

Damn his bones!


Yeah, for some reason that post you made convinced me that you were the assassin. Even though I had been voting for zop for many rounds previously.

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Chapter 9: The New President

When the UN Peacekeeping troops finally broke through the barrier, they found the bodies piled around Lurker’s United Secretariat Nuclear Master.

Nuclear Master shook his head and rose, his shadow casting long behind him.

“They killed each other.” He shook his head. “They thought we would starve. I hid.”

“And so...” Nuclear Master sighed. “It seems that with the leadership dead... I would be your new President.”

A wicked gleam entered his eye.

He walked from the place of death and was crowned the new President-Dictator of Apolytonia.

And there was no one left to stop him.

And the Lurkers inherited the Forum.

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Nuclear Master- now you can see why I waited extra-long on that sunday turn- duke had demanded your death by his MOD powers ahead of time with the weekend- but when he returned, he changed his demand... It seems that you lucked out

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Just wondering- why did everyone think that Zopperoni and Duke O’York were the assassins... I’m curious. They kept piling up votes from time to time, but I thought that both of them were completely guiltless?

An... it was writ then it was so- the lurkers truly did inherit the earth.

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Hints:

Chapter 1

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Alone in the Shadows

alone in the dark.


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When the dust settled, Secretariat Nuclear Master of LU sprang into action, taking account of their situation and seeing to the wounded of his party, using duct tape and rolled paper to staunch their bleeding.

He was prepared and knew what was going to happen.

Chapter 2

quote:

“The people will be pleased.”

“Indeed.”

“This voting was amazingly fortuitous.”

“I know.”

“But the real killer-”

“Should be no problem.”

“But why-”

“Ask me no more.”


When Jonny is killed this round- this points to someone killing someone within their own organization since someone was prying.

quote:

Later that day, Jonny was discovered dead, strung up in the rafters by what was either the ultra-thin rope of the curtains, or excess electrical cable.

Anyone would have known that there was extra cable, not just those who went to observe.

quote:
SPAM would reign supreme over the shadowy MOD party and the even more dangerous LU. Besides, who would ever trust a Lurker anyway. They were too quiet for their own good.

Even more dangerous LU... Too quiet- Nuclear Master hardly speaks.

Chapter 3

quote:
Nuclear Master took a note.
(He uses paper)

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Investigating in the basement, speechwriter Joncha made an interesting discovery.

Calling upstairs for Chairperson Chaunk, Joncha waved him down and showed Chaunk what he had found.

“And it was cracked off?”

Joncha nodded.

“****.” Chaunk cursed, and turned away.

The cracked off bar from the water main... water isn’t working later people discover.

See here:
quote:
“I wonder why the toilet isn’t flushing?” Gjramsey kept pushing the handle, then, giving up, went to wash his hands. No water came out. “Er....” He commented. “This isn’t good.”

Without water, they would all perish within three days.

He reported his findings to the rest of LU. Something had happened to the water main.

Water main cracked off.

quote:
someone clubbed Chaunk over the head with a crowbar. He fell to the ground, then Rasputin calmly picked up his gun and shot him through the head.

General Ludd, wanting revenge whacked Chaunk on the head with the crowbar.

Gjramsey was in the W/C so his later revealed crowbar isn’t the same one that was stolen from below. So it CAN’T be him.

Rasputin is the only other one with a bludgeoning weapon- the flashlight club

Chapter 4

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“Doctor Ranger?” The voice asked.

He did not turn back.

“Doctor- Doctor-“ the voice called.

Urban Ranger turned and saw the man, he was hazy and he couldn’t quite make him out, but he was pointing at something... or someone past him. Urban Ranger turned. He heard a shriek, he couldn’t tell which direction it came from. He heard running. Then he fell to the ground. A leaf of


Nuclear Master was pointing to distract UR. Dr. Spike was NOT in the hall. NM came from the basement and watermain past the food crates and strangled him with asparagus.

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When Joncha and Nuclear Master found him dead in the hall, they turned away. The sight was simply too grotesque to behold. Urban Ranger was dead; strangled by asparagus- a fried green tomato stuffed in his mouth.

Indeed. They found him first- they were at watermain, walked up.

and as imran pointed out-
quote:
Neck... neck... neck... perhaps there is a clue in the manner of the killing? Not the head, but one which supports the head?

The secretariat is quiet, shadowy, and supports, then seizes power.
Look at Stalin... Look at Mao Zedong.

chapter 5

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“The election results are in Sir, and Oh My Gawd!” The short man halted in mid-read. (GJRAMSEY)

“No... It cannot be.” The tall man shook his head. (RASPUTIN)

“Death! But this election was for the Presidency!” The Presidential Candidate called out.

“You should have known better Sir.” The short man shook his head.

“I’ll page the Secretariat (NUCLEAR MASTER), have him call in some favors.” The Presidential Candidate insisted.

“Too late... Would you like me to mention anything in your obituary?” The familiar face of someone who always had a sheaf of black paper and a black pointed pen in his hand emerged from the shadows. (JONCHA)

“But- what- who- you’re not in my party- neither is the- and you- what? What’s happening?”

The figures blurred. Images of the survivors of the hellish ordeal flashed past in the Candidate’s head. All the people darkened in his gaze.

“Wait- calm down- Why is it too late?” The Presidential Candidate screamed at the images.

“Sorry.” A dark figure raised his weapon. “But you’re dead.”

A shot rang out.

LU Presidential Candidate Vovan fell to the floor.


Waking, Vovan broke out in a hot sweat. Opening his eyes, he sighed. “It was all just a bad dream.”


It’s just a dream. Completely misleading.

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As his mind became overwhelmed with pain, Skanky neverthless continued to think...

Just why had someone wanted to murder him? And especially in such an idiotic way- he had been hit in the stomach by a man he couldn’t quite place, then had his neck twisted back, closing his esophagus and air tunnels.

Nuclear Master doesn’t have any other weapon- just paper. That’s why he doesn’t shoot or club, etc.

quote:
The Campaign Manager was working on the documents.

“Shame isn’t it that Doctor Spike was killed.” A short man entered the room.

“Why? He’s not even in our party.” Imran frowned.

The short man smiled.

“What are you getting at?” Imran insisted.

“I’ve been doing a little sleuthing of my own,” The short man started.

“Yes- and?”

“It’s getting mighty suspicious that no SPAM party members are being killed.”

“And why are you telling me this?”

“I think you should adjust your votes accordingly.”

“What?”

“For the killer.”

“Why?”

“Why not? Wouldn’t it look bad if the only survivors were from the SPAM party?”

“They should I vote for you?”

“No.”

“Then who?”

“Who’s close to cracking? Who’s no longer an asset?” The short man turned and left the room. “Think on it.”

Joncha’s just making a power play here- there’s nothing nefarious about it other than he wants Zopperoni dead.

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Waiting by the door and biting off the core of an apple, Rasputin twiddled his fingers.

Misleading, links rasputin to the asparagus death.

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After a few minutes, he thought he saw someone sneak past him in the shadows. Abandoning Zopperoni, he followed the man, but lost him when he neared the basement. Shrugging his massive shoulders, Rasputin returned to the bathroom... but Zopperoni was no longer there.

Misleading. Zopperoni raced to SPAM headquarters.

quote:
“I’ll page the Secretariat, have him call in some favors.” The Presidential Candidate insisted.

“Too late... He won’t help you now.

Points DIRECTLY at nuclear master- he won’t help anyone survive except himself.

Chapter 6

quote:
“I was merely coming to speak to Duke O’York about the killings- I fear for my life. I fear that an important personage is behind the deaths- and since Duke detected General Ludd before- I think he might be correct again-”

This one’s only for duke- originally his MOD demanded death was that of Nuclear Master- therefore he WAS right before.

But Joncha is wrong about the killer being important as imran already pointed out about the “neck” of the party.

quote:
Zopperoni, the SPAM Presidential Candidate, now left alone, crawled back to his headquarters, his lower-lip bleeding and leaving a trail of blood.

GJ Ramsey, frowning deeply, wiped the blood from the ground with a paper towel, then did his best to console his employer and Presidential Candidate.

This sets up the blood red herring- but Zopperoni’s has already been cleaned up...
It also sets up the paper red herring- but anyone could get a paper towel... or ‘paper’ which was what was really used- Nuke’s paper.

Chapter 7

quote:

Cleaning up in the bathroom, Vovan noticed something written on the wall. Squinting, he tried to read it. It seemed to say that “Your time has come.” He shook his head, then blinked. He must have been imagining the words, because when he opened his eyes again, they were gone- wiped away.

Then he gasped and fell to the ground as a flying figure knocked him off his feet, then hit the ground and proceeded to strangle him with wetted paper.

Nuclear Master and GJ Ramsey found him hours later, when GJ started to wonder where their Presidential Candidate had wandered off to.


Note 1: Paper again- secretariat implicated.
2: Your time has come... reflects back to the ‘no one will help you now’ dream.
3: GJ was the one who wondered where Vovan had gone- not Nuclear Master.

The assassin’s jumping down reflects back on Chapter Two:
quote:
LU made their way up into the rafters.

LU is both shadowy and IN the rafters- therefore, Nuclear Master had to JUMP DOWN! to kill... clever isn’t it?

It’s quite amusing that even through this chapter, Nuclear Master did not have a single vote accrue to himself. And I don’t really see why people kept voting for Zopperoni, even with Imran’s revelation... or why duke o’ york thought the clues pointed to himself...

Chapter 8

[quote[Then G.J. Ramsey and Nuclear Master, in the rafters, noticed a breeze blowing through their canopy. It seemed that the UN was tunneling in. Everyone would soon be freed. GJ announced the news to the others.[/quote[

Once again GJ points it out and not Nuclear Master.

quote:
Therefore, reaching for Nuclear Master’s notepad, Duke O’York pulled a sheet from it, tore it into three halves, handed one third to Zopperoni, and another third to Nuclear Master, then scribed his choice.


Probably the most obvious clue yet- who has paper??? when all the hangings and stranglings are done by paper.

quote:
Zopperoni, placing his piece into the hat regretfully shook his head. “So now we’re all dead.” He commented.

Ironic. There’s no way they could win with Nuclear Master’s special power... not that that mattered anyway since Zopperoni’s power doomed duke o’ york.

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Joncha- Poison-Stabbing Pen
Theben- Gun
Chaunk- Gun
Rasputin- 7’ 6’’ Flashlight Club
DrSpike- scalpel
Nuclear Master- (reveal chapter 3- uses paper to strangle victims... secretariat)
General Ludd- crowbar (bonks people on the head)

Skanky- shot in shoulder, has wrap around it.

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"shadows"=shadowy= Lurkers

The biggest hint was the first hint
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The others were somewhat misleading, but one by one , Imentioned what weapons each person had... and the last hint with Nuclear Master with the paper, really damned him, honestly, since all the killings were done with paper.

Joncha was honestly the 'stooge' in the game, since he was the other person with paper, but his weapon, as mentioned several times, was the stabbing-pen.

and once again, I don't see how anyone could really suspect duke o'york or zopperoni.

but i'd be interested in hearing why they're suspected.

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ROUND EIGHT

*Zopperoni- duke o'york (2 power)
*NuclearMaster- duke o'york
*Duke o' york- Nuclear Master

nuclearmaster uses power (negates 2 votes for self)

Duke O'York- 3
Nuclear Master- 0

ZOPPERONI KILLED

ROUND SEVEN

*Spaced Cowboy- Zopperoni
Zopperoni- duke o'york
NuclearMaster-
gjramsey- Spaced Cowboy
*Duke o' york- Spaced Cowboy

Duke O'york- 1
Zopperoni- 1
Spaced Cowboy- 2

KILL GJRAMSEY
SPACED COWBOY EXECUTED

ROUND SIX

Spaced Cowboy- (MOD POWER) Joncha
*joncha-
Zopperoni-
Vovan- Zopperoni
NuclearMaster-
gjramsey- Joncha
*Duke o' york-

Zopperoni- 1
Joncha- 1

JONCHA dies MOD power

ROUND FIVE

Imran Siddiqui- Joncha
Spaced Cowboy- Zopperoni
joncha- Imran Siddiqui (doubled vote)
Zopperoni- Duke O'York
Rasputin- Joncha
Vovan- Zopperoni
NuclearMaster- Rasputin
gjramsey- Joncha
Duke o' york- Imran Siddiqui

Imran Siddiqui- 3
Joncha- 3
Zopperoni- 2
Rasputin- 1
Duke O'york- 1

ROUND FOUR

Imran Siddiqui- Skanky Burns
Spaced Cowboy- Zopperoni
joncha- DrSpike
Zopperoni- Skanky Burns
Rasputin- Spaced Cowboy
Vovan- Zopperoni
DrSpike- Rasputin
NuclearMaster- DrSpike
gjramsey- Rasputin
Skanky Burns- DrSpike
Duke o' york-

DrSpike- 3
Rasuptin- 2
zopperoni- 2
Skanky Burns- 2
Spaced Cowboy- 1


ROUND THREE

Imran Siddiqui- Rasputin
Spaced Cowboy-
joncha- DrSpike
Zopperoni-
Rasputin- Dr Spike (LU)
Vovan- Zopperoni (SPAM)
DrSpike- Joncha
NuclearMaster- Urban Ranger (MOD)
gjramsey- Joncha
Skanky Burns- DrSpike
Duke o' york- General Ludd
Urban Ranger-
General Ludd- Spaced Cowboy

duke's special demands GENERAL LUDD'S DEATH

DrSpike- 3
Joncha- 2
Spaced Cowboy- 1
Zopperoni- 1
Rasputin- 1
Urban Ranger- 1
General Ludd- 1

ROUND TWO

Imran Siddiqui- Jon Miller (MOD)
Spaced Cowboy- Chaunk (SPAM)
joncha- DrSpike (LU)
Zopperoni- Skanky Burns (MOD)
Rasputin- Skanky Burns (MOD)
Chaunk- DrSpike (LU)
Vovan- Zopperoni (SPAM)
DrSpike- Rasputin (SPAM)
NuclearMaster- vovan
gjramsey- joncha (SPAM)
Skanky Burns- Rasputin (SPAM)
Duke o' york- chaunk (SPAM)
Jon Miller-
Urban Ranger-
General Ludd- Chaunk (SPAM)

Chaunk- 3
Skanky Burns- 2
DrSpike- 2
Rasputin- 2
Jon Miller- 2
Zopperoni- 1
vovan- 1
joncha- 1

ROUND ONE

gjramsey- General Ludd (MOD)
Imran Siddiqui- General Ludd (MOD)
Spaced Cowboy- Chaunk (SPAM)
joncha- DrSpike (LU)
Zopperoni- General Ludd (MOD)
Rasputin- General Ludd (MOD)
Chaunk- DrSpike (LU)
Vovan- DrSpike (LU)
DrSpike- Rasputin (SPAM)
NuclearMaster- Jonny (LU)
General Ludd- Chaunk (SPAM)
Skanky Burns- Rasputin (SPAM)
Duke o' york- Spaced Cowboy (MOD)
Jon Miller- Skanky Burns (MOD)
Jonny- Chaunk (SPAM)

General Ludd- 4
Chaunk- 3
DrSpike- 3
Rasputin- 2
Spaced Cowboy- 1
Skanky Burns- 1
Jonny- 1

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-By the way, Nuclear Master received 0 votes the entire game (save the 1 that was negated in the last round)

[This is probably the best run an assassin has ever had! ]

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Very nice NM, I did not have a clue who it was.

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I thought he was being too quiet... good game, Nukey.

 
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