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Got spare money?

I will be responding shortly. Sabrewolf, you know what this means.

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it means nothing good

that's why i asked. i want to know what others see as the middle-term goals of AU

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I will wait until people respond to your question, me thinks

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WE are playing a game

Games are supposed to be fun

Learning 1500 peoples names is not fun.

While I'm all for increasing the size of AU, I would like it to remain a friendly place, not elitist, but some understanding of the game is always required. Since we are all attempting to beat the game, we are learning from the leaders (I'm learning from jshler and alex among others in a couple of PBEMs, and from Dom, Aeson, Arrian et al on the boards).

There are too many people on the 'net who play C3C to create a mod with. We will always need leaders. I would prefer 50 people to create the mod and the atmosphere, and another 50,000,000 to D/L.

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Who says that Krill? We are not trying to get every single person who bought Conquests to come play an AU Course. 1500 people is an extremely large amount compared to what the real goal is. We only have around fifty people, lurkers and all, at the moment. Even doubling that number would be a good change.

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What is the reall goal then? 200 people?

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The real goal is to get more people. Whether that be four people or forty, or any number.

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I am now un-disappeared.

Let me catch up a bit, including looking back at my own original thread that you referenced, NM, and I'll put up some thoughts.

And, CONGRATS EVERYBODY, on getting the Civgroup going!!

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I am now un-disappeared.

Let me catch up a bit, including looking back at my own original thread that you referenced, NM, and I'll put up some thoughts.

And, CONGRATS EVERYBODY, on getting the Civgroup going!!


Theseus! Welcome back. We missed you.

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* Theseus bows.

Where can I find that "CivIII and Poly" thread? I need to, uh, remember what I was thinkin'.

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Here: http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...&threadid=90953

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While I'm still catching up, I happened to be looking at the August issue of Computer Games today... on page 32, they evidently have a regular report on various mods out in the world.

We should submit the AU Mod, along with some general publicity for Apolyton and AU.

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Wow, that thread was from a YEAR ago!!

(damn, I'm good )

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Having caught up a bit (not done, though), it seems to me that we've done a not-so-bad job at muddling our way through the last year.

We've got:
* The Civgroup and Civgroup page
(and a cool icon!)
* The link on the front page for CivIII
* This forum
* Semi-regular newspostings
* A pretty hot-damn AU Mod

And I think we've played some pretty good games, and have vastly improved the sharing of information, ideas, and experiences with the conversionn to DARs.

From a 'marketing' standpoint, I thought this post of ducki's in the Publicity Stunt thread was pretty good:

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Come to think of it, maybe we don't need new games, but a new way of analyzing and showcasing what we've already got, which is some of the best strategic play I've seen. Some very esoteric, some so obvious that many don't think of it.

What we need is a Post-Game Wrap-up Show. Someone to comb through the DARs and glean the "good" stuff. Then, with links, compile a Highlights Reel with commentary of the high-points and low-points of the most recent game.

Publish this as a News Story on 'poly and publicize it. It would be news-y and pull some "late" players as well as interest folks in "what's next". It would be fun if the commentary was done in a theme, like a sportscaster or the excellent zoological storytelling seen in 501. And, it would have a very subtle draw to players that want to have some level of competition but not really the GOTM-level or HoF type of game play - folks LOVE to see their name in writing or hear it on the news or on TV. It would be subtle, but it would subconsciously say "Wouldn't you like to be featured in the next AU Post-game Wrap-up? Unless you play, you don't even have a shot, so come on, join in the fun!"


What do you guys think of that?


Good stuff. So, I guess my overall reaction is that, yeah, we want to keep improving, but we are on the right track.

Beyond that, and again looking back at my own thoughts from a year ago, what we really need is more publicity... the great thing is that we are dealing with *Civilization* here, not a game that sells, is played for a while and then is dropped. I mean, there still have to be a gajillion people out there playing who have never been to Apolyton or heard of AU; how do we get in front of them?

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yay!!! theseus is back with lots of good stuff

so, where do we find these gajillions? where do people, who still play civ3 and don't already visit fan-forums, go to?

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I was about to say game magazines...

But no, on reflection, what would the bunch of of project as the great un-'polyed masses out there?

Educated? Computer literate? Historically inquisitive? But maybe a touch older, and not aware of fan forums?

"Sunday was made for the New York Times."

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This is something we need to do. We need to find some great DAR's to supply the great "story" that I convinced the Stories community to make.

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Anyone? If we do not get a few good DAR's soon, we will lose this big opportunity.
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If we were to have our own site (apolyton.net/au) what features would we want in it?

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This is something we need to do. We need to find some great DAR's to supply the great "story" that I convinced the Stories community to make.


well, that byzantine one (501, power of seafaring?) had some interesting versions. eg. aeson's "no military units" or theseus' "a city on every 2nd tile" and some other interesting ones

then some of the older OCCs (was it russia?) could make a great story. (some great powers of the past basicly consisted of just one single city: troy, babylon (iirc) )

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If we were to have our own site (apolyton.net/au) what features would we want in it?


see the first post of mine in this thread

basicly:
- good index and links
- highlight DARs extracted
- weekly (or more often) news on upcoming stuff, polls outcome ("what's the next topic?", etc)

maybe link the best strategy threads. CFC's strategy website started off really well, but imho now consists of various exploits (hardcode map whoring, etc.)

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Someone has contacted me for making a possible site. If someone else would volunteer it would be a lot of help. Then, all we need is Markos' approval.

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*bump*

FYI, I am still working on my final DAR for AU 503. It's brutal, in more ways than one.

Anyway, I bumped this in the context of the HoF/Tournaments. I'll try to find stuff on types of awards.

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I do think that we should introduce some type of award system.
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Are there any volunteers that would like to construct some of the Introduction Courses? I'd like to get them up as soon as possible. If you're interested, just post here, or PM me.

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what do you mean with introduction courses?
those focussed plans on either rexing, leader generating, etc?

award system sounds good, though CFC is far ahead and they are doing a great job. they've got an own, more balanced points system, and lots and lots of players.

how were you thinking of differeciating from them?

oh, and btw: congrats to your promotion to staff! a good thing you kept hanging on

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By Introduction Courses, I mean courses that focus on basics things, like pillaging, REXing, early rushing, and things like that. Essentially, we could have two courses for each lesson. The first course, would almost have a guide of some sorts, so you could really learn how to do the lesson. The next course, you would do it totally on your own, to see if you learnt anything.

Well, I'd rather not do a point system, as that seems really quite competitive to me. My idea was to have it closer to MZO's version, and then tweaking the voting ones (Best DAR) around a bit.

Thanks. I decided this after a few things happened.

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i like that idea: "tutorial" and "test what you've learnt"

do we have some great players who'd be willing to document the early REXing and rushing?
some things are around in the strategy forum, like eg. the JW rush, the german archer rush, etc. may be usable for the tutorial part.

may i ask, what things happened? it looked really bad a few weeks ago. did you get a PC and C3C?

on the points system: i have no idea how it's like at MZO, so no input there from me.

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You can see the awards in the HoF/Tournament thread.

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i know, not much discussion has been done about AU awards (i don't mean HoF awards here), but i still thought i'd create variants of it.

my thoughts were:

IF we have honorary awards for apolyton university, then we

a) can have either one single award, which you either deserve or you don't (what the criteria and categories would count, has yet to be defined)

b) or we have several, ordered awards, for example eg. gold, silver, bronze

c) or we have one award per category, like "outstanding performance in AU courses", "outstanding contribution to the AU mod", etc.

d) a combination of the above.

e) something else...


aaaanyway... i started of doing something for a), which i have attached in this post

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note: this was a hasty experiment... at this size, the AU text probably would have to be darker for more contrast.

then, i thought i could modify the palettes to fulfill variant b), so i added to the gold medal attached above, as silver medal...

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and a bronze one...


again, i repeat: these are not the best i can do and definatly not the best possible. once decided, if, and what medals are going to be given, a contest would be needed anyway.

so, without further ado, the bronze:

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