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To find the Northwest Passage
Aug 2001 time: 13:37
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No NYE, why don't you piss off.
Stick to the issues and spare us your hatred of the East.
Everytime there is a discussion about Canadian politics, you always end up screaming about how them evil Easterners are attacking the west. You're constantly insulting Easterners. You're constantly blaming people from the East.
Enough already!
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Tingkai
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To find the Northwest Passage
Aug 2001 time: 13:37
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Let's stick to the issues.
Looks like the election ain't over yet.
Two recounts could determine whether the Libs need the BQ. From the Globe:
"The key contest is in the British Columbia riding of New Westminster-Coquitlam. Incumbent Conservative MP Paul Forseth edged out NDP candidate Steve McClurg by 45 votes. The margin of victory is so narrow that a judicial recount is automatic.
If the recount reverses the result, the NDP would have the 20 seats required to give the Liberals a majority in the House, if it chooses.
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In the riding of Edmonton-Beaumont, Liberal incumbent David Kilgour won by 32 votes, beating Conservative Tim Uppal.
At least 11 other ridings have the top two contenders within one percentage point of each other, preliminary figures from Elections Canada show. While recounts aren't automatic in most of these cases, candidates can try to persuade a judge that they have a good reason to request one.
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Well obviously this wont be a very stable government, its a very interesting situation where every seats count, which makes for individual deputees very important...
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Flinx
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Nov 2001 time: 00:37
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quote: Originally posted by Ben Kenobi
They need one more seat, and the help of Duceppe to form government.
That independent will side with the Conservatives since his riding is in the Fraser Valley.
I think we will be voting very soon, perhaps as soon as the fall, since I do not see how Martin is going to cobble together a working minority. |
1) The Conservative party needs to have a policy convention before it will fight another election.
2) The Bloc will never have it so good again.
3) Soft NDP supporters voted Liberal to prevent a conservative winning and ended up with a conservative in several ridings. The NDP needs to continue to improve its image and shore up support.
4) Paul Martin needs to have the public commission into the sponsorship scandal exonerate him.
5) Except in Alberta, everyone is happy to live with the result for quite a while. Whichever party causes a premature election any time soon, is going to tank in the polls.
6) The Liberals and Conservatives can agree on common policy on defence and border security etc., the Liberals, NDP and Bloc can agree on common policy like childcare, homecare, pharmacare, gay marriage, legal pot, etc. etc.
The Liberals should find it rather easy to cobble together a majority coalition on an issue by issue basis if they are not too arrogant. While Liberals are indeed often arrogant, they are usually pragmatic most of all; we will see which side wins.
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Flinx
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Toronto, ON CANADA
Nov 2001 time: 00:37
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quote: Originally posted by notyoueither
Incidentally, I should point out that trying to convince the average Albertan to change his or her poitical beliefs is about as productive as trying to convince Ben to be an atheist, or someone from Ontario or Quebec that a PM from the West could be a good thing.
Something happens, it pisses them off, they change courses and get entrenched there. They move trenches again when something else pisses them off.
Klein just pissed them off, royally. |
People in Ontario and Quebec have nothing against people from the West. Anne McLellean or Ujjal Dosanjh would probably be quite acceptable Liberal PMs. It is the anti-collectivist, sink or swim, make-it-on-your-own, and don’t-help-your-neighbour ideas that do not come across very well out here. We do not believe in hand-outs but we do believe in a helping hand-up.
There is some speculation out here that Ralf Klein deliberately sabotaged the Conservative campaign because with Harper and the Conservatives in Ottawa, he would no longer have a bogeyman in Ottawa to vilify.
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notyoueither
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Aug 2001 time: 22:37
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From what you say, Flinx, you'd think that there were no public education or other social programs between Winnipeg and the Rockies. I know that's not what you're saying, but it's stuff like that that grates on a great many nerves around here. When the Prime Minister gets up and wins an election on stuff like it, people get really pissed off.
re Klein, there is a lot of speculation out here that he did just that. Nobody is saying clearly why, but they're wondering. Myself, I thought at the time, and said it, that he along with Tories like Clark didn't think that the Conservatives were ready to form a government. If that is what Klein was thinking, I kind of agree with him. But people are still pissed off.
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Kontiki
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Aug 2001 time: 00:37
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I don't want to get in the middle of this particular pissing contest, but I would like to reiterate that Alberta != the west. Alberta and Saskatchewan are the only provinces where the Conservatives got more than 40% of the popular vote. In Saskatchewan's case, it was just barely over at 41.6%. In Alberta, it was 61.6%.
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Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
Jul 2002 time: 22:37
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HAPPY CANADA DAY!
ALL HAIL LORD PEARSON!
Also, a new facet in the gay marriage debate:
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CBC article
'Double-double'? Now you can look it up
Last Updated Wed, 30 Jun 2004 11:51:39 EDT
TORONTO - "Double-double," "stagette" and "goal suck" are among the 5,000 new words and definitions added to the Canadian Oxford Dictionary.
The newly published second edition of the dictionary "accurately reflects how Canadians speak and write in the 21st century," Katherine Barber, the book's editor-in-chief, said in a statement.
Barber cites the research into "double-double" – a coffee with double cream and double sugar added – as an example.
"We had to determine if it was used only in Tim Hortons doughnut shops or more widely," Barber said. "We found evidence in the Globe and Mail, the National Post, the Hamilton Spectator and the book Men with Brooms, based on the curling movie."
Researchers also surveyed Canadians across the country and were sent to eavesdrop in coffee shops to gauge whether people really use the term.
Some of the words and definitions added to the second edition also reflect changes in Canadian attitudes: the "stagette," a pre-wedding party for the bride and her female friends, made it in as did "lesbigay", which denotes "lesbian, bisexual or gay." The new edition also updates the definition of marriage to "the legal or religious union of two people."
Sports terms added include "goal suck" (a player who lingers by the net so as to score easily) and "hurry" (the curling term meaning "sweep"). The edition includes 100 new biographies of prominent Canadians – including Izzy Asper, Jim Carrey, Diana Krall and Northern Dancer – and specifies a number of place name derivatives (Banffite and Charlottetonian).
First published in 1998, the Canadian Oxford Dictionary was both a bestseller and an award-winner, netting two awards from the Canadian Booksellers Association for non-fiction book of the year and specialty book of the year. The association also named Barber editor of the year.
The official publication date of the new edition is Aug. 10, 2004 – the 100-year anniversary of the opening of Oxford's Canadian offices.
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You can't fight the dictionary, Ben!

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