02-07-2004 06:08									#121
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Didn;t want to watse apolyton bandwidth ore servewr space or whatevenver.

But they don't allow imnage linking so I'm gonnart attach it ahagain.

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	02-07-2004 06:09									#122
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Where;s my gfoddanmn ber>

edit: that' ones emopty

Goddamn. gotta get anohter from fridge now. be right back

	02-07-2004 06:20									#123
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Where did you find that stuff down there?

	02-07-2004 06:23									#124
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The local (and by local I mean 2 blocks away) liquour sterore sells. it ./

Whqat I can 't ****ing fiund is Molson WEx

Which is really ironic.

	02-07-2004 06:27									#125
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I miss, home. L

	02-07-2004 06:29									#126
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How much longer until you can come home?

	02-07-2004 06:33									#127
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Forever? At least 3 and probably more liek 5 years,

	02-07-2004 06:35									#128
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Well, at least you've got funding, or something. Did you have any good prospects at Canadian Universities?

	02-07-2004 06:36									#129
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Yes. ubut for grad school it;'s hard to compare the top 15-20 ghere with any in Cqnada.

	02-07-2004 06:45									#130
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How often do you get to get back to Montreal?

	02-07-2004 06:46									#131
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Can;t average it tyeay

Have been herre foer 11 monthes and have been mback twicwe.

	02-07-2004 06:51									#132
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Good thing it's not too far.

	02-07-2004 08:15									#133
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quote: Originally posted by KrazyHorse It's supposed to mean that people from Ontario can't speak French.

Hey, you can't blame me. I copied it straight from Babelfish.

	02-07-2004 10:57									#134
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Recent poll of Canadians, taken with a pinch of salt but nonetheless:

How likely would you be to vote for a party if its leader were:
From Quebec
Less likely: 22% More likely: 13%
From Western Canada
Less likely: 10% More likely: 20%

This suggests that a majority of people don't give a sh!t where a party leader is from, but being from Quebec could cost a leader a net loss in votes while being from the West will create a net gain in votes.


Do you strongly agree, agree, disagree or strongly disagree with the following statement:
Gays and lesbians should be allowed to get married.
Favour/agree: 57%
Oppose/disagree: 38%
Don't know: 4%

Percentage who agree by region
Quebec: 66%
Ontario: 57%
West: 54%
Atlantic: 49%
Youth: 77%

See:
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/serv...y/Front/#survey

	02-07-2004 11:19									#135
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That first question is curious, given the last 4 PMs to win an election were from Quebec going back over twenty years. As you said, take it with a pinch of salt.

	02-07-2004 11:35									#136
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Well, Chretien's an obvious Quebecois, but Martin and Mulroney are pretty generic.

Are Joe Clark and Kim Campbell from Quebec?

	02-07-2004 11:47									#137
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Did Campbell win? How many PMs have won since Clark did? How long ago was that?

	02-07-2004 12:31									#138
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The title of this thread becomes totally blank when you view in UTF-8.

So that you know.

	02-07-2004 12:41									#139
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The point is that on average it doesn't matter where the candidate is from.

The majority of voters probably don't know where a candidate is from, and they probably don't care.

Is Martin from Montreal or Windsor?

Is Harper from Calgary or Toronto?

What's interesting about the poll is that for the minority who do care, being from the West will get more votes than being from Quebec. That challenges traditional beliefs.

	02-07-2004 22:00									#140
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quote: Originally posted by Tingkai Gays and lesbians should be allowed to get married. Percentage who agree by region West: 54% Atlantic: 49%

Now that I didn't expect.

	03-07-2004 01:40									#141
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quote: You're already embarassing yourself with your avatar. You don't need my help.

You surely can come up with a far more embarrassing avatar...

	03-07-2004 01:44									#142
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quote: Two recounts could determine whether the Libs need the BQ. From the Globe: "The key contest is in the British Columbia riding of New Westminster-Coquitlam. Incumbent Conservative MP Paul Forseth edged out NDP candidate Steve McClurg by 45 votes. The margin of victory is so narrow that a judicial recount is automatic. If the recount reverses the result, the NDP would have the 20 seats required to give the Liberals a majority in the House, if it chooses. ... In the riding of Edmonton-Beaumont, Liberal incumbent David Kilgour won by 32 votes, beating Conservative Tim Uppal.

As for the 11 ridings, history has shown that most of them will not be contested. The only ones that are likely to change are these two here.

Now, there are several options.

1. Liberal / NDP
2. Con / NDP
3. Liberal / Con
4. Con / Con.

There is only one that will ensure that the BQ support is not needed, which is the least likely of the options on the table.

They could end up in a situation where only a BQ / CON government could form a minority government, should both Conservatives win, giving them 101 seats with the BQ's 54.

	03-07-2004 01:50									#143
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quote: Do you strongly agree, agree, disagree or strongly disagree with the following statement: Gays and lesbians should be allowed to get married. Favour/agree: 57% Oppose/disagree: 38% Don't know: 4%

Hardly uncontroversial, even given the poll wording.

If you gave an intermediate option of retaining gay 'unions', I bet you'll see a majority opposing gay marriage.

As for the West vs. Atlantic results, it does not surprise me. The East is more conservative than the West, and Vansterdam. They just vote Liberal in federal elections...

	03-07-2004 04:04									#144
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quote: Originally posted by Tingkai The point is that on average it doesn't matter where the candidate is from. The majority of voters probably don't know where a candidate is from, and they probably don't care. Is Martin from Montreal or Windsor? Is Harper from Calgary or Toronto? What's interesting about the poll is that for the minority who do care, being from the West will get more votes than being from Quebec. That challenges traditional beliefs.

Which is a better indicator of reality? Election results or a single poll?

	03-07-2004 04:25									#145
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Flinx:

quote: 1) The Conservative party needs to have a policy convention before it will fight another election.

Which won't take 6 months.

quote: 2) The Bloc will never have it so good again.

Heck, if someone muzzled Landry we would have seen 65 Bloc seats.

quote: 3) Soft NDP supporters voted Liberal to prevent a conservative winning and ended up with a conservative in several ridings. The NDP needs to continue to improve its image and shore up support.

And continue splitting votes with the Liberals. Now you have the Greens receiving Federal funding, so they will have an even higher profile, and split the left even more.

quote: 4) Paul Martin needs to have the public commission into the sponsorship scandal exonerate him.

You really believe him innocent? What if the commission rules Martin as being at the front and centre? He was the Finance Minister, after all.

quote: 5) Except in Alberta, everyone is happy to live with the result for quite a while. Whichever party causes a premature election any time soon, is going to tank in the polls.

I'm not happy, and I don't live in Alberta, thank you very much. There are many people who do not want to see the return of deficits endorsed by a LIB / NDP coalition, who will quickly vote them out if that's the path they take.

quote: 6) The Liberals and Conservatives can agree on common policy on defence and border security etc., the Liberals, NDP and Bloc can agree on common policy like childcare, homecare, pharmacare, gay marriage, legal pot, etc. etc.

Actually Martin has waffled on both gay marriage, and has refused to legalise pot.

They disagree on the use of the military, and the role of NAFTA agreement.

The Conservatives have no desire to prop up a corrupt Liberal administration.

Unless Martin can get BQ support, he will fail on the very first bill.

	03-07-2004 04:32									#146
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quote: The new edition also updates the definition of marriage to "the legal or religious union of two people."

quote: You can't fight the dictionary, Ben!

There are other dictionaries, so why trust such a lame dictionary that bothers to define the technical term-"goal-suck?"

All a lexicographer can do is track shifts in usage, which is indeed the case here. They do not comment on the legal definitions of the term.

In fact, a good dictionary will record the term, in it's legal and the slang usage.

	03-07-2004 04:39									#147
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What about civil marriages, Ben? Are they not married?

	03-07-2004 04:50									#148
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quote: What about civil marriages, Ben? Are they not married?

Legally? Yes.

In the religious sense? No.

	03-07-2004 06:37									#149
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So what's the problem with same sex marriages in the legal sense?

	03-07-2004 06:45									#150
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Not all provinces have it.

Just BC, Ontario and Quebec.