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After 3 days, Spiderman 2 has grossed $96,000,000+, making it nigh on certain to break the opening week record of $114,000,000 set by... Spiderman.

Of course, it'll never show a net profit.

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In a few hours I'm going to see it for the 2nd time.

Btw, that elevator scene, I crack up just thinking about it.

I'm disappointed though, I saw the movie very early on Thursday. 10 am. So there wasn't anyone in the theater. Me and like 15 people. So I didn't get much vibe from the audience. No big laughs or claps or anything. I miss not seeing it on opening day.

But during that elevator scene, I couldn't stop myself from laughing outloud in the theater, hehehehehehe.

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I saw this last night. The place was packed. I had planned to see it at 8:35, but missed that, so I arrived early to the 9:35 showing. It was sold out. So I went in to the 10:00 showing. I had to sit up front on the left. At 10:00 there was already a line forming for the next showing at 11:30.

Overall, this movie was much improved over the first. I found the Goblin in the first to be annoying, whereas Doc Ock was a character I enjoyed. I especially liked the scenes on the train. I am going to rent the first Spiderman again to give it another shot, but I doubt my opinion of it will have changed.

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Naw, the problem with Batman wasn't that they made too many movies, it was that they tried to cram too much into the movies.


I disagree. I think they made too many movies, especially after Michael Keaton left. Batman was then a new actor for every movie. It was getting stale and old as the backstory was the same and wasn't progressing. A movie franchise has problems lasting after the 3rd one, even a great franchise. A lot of times the 2nd one is the peak and it goes downhill from here.


We could see the end approaching when Danny DeVito appeared as The Penguin. What a joke. That character destroyed the new Batman franchise before it even really begun. Then, when the homoerotica Batman Forever came out, we knew for sure. Batman and Robin was just salt on the wound, rubbed in with sandpaper.

I wish they would just leave the Dark Knight alone.

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I mean nothing at all has changed about James Bond, but they've been making those movies for 40-50 years.


How many of those recent James Bond movies have been anything good though? And besides, James Bond stopped following the stories long time ago. If you take Spiderman and make it like James Bond 10 years from now you'll have someone else being Spiderman and the writers making up new villians and new story arcs which were never in the comics.

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I like most James Bond movies... the only ones I don't like are the ones with that new actor... can't remember his name, but I hate him...

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I think Brosnan is probably the best Bond since Connery. Though Moore was pretty fun.

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You're the first one I've seen who didn't say "Brosnan killed James Bond" or anything like that...
Everybody I know hates the new James Bond movies...

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Actually I've known MANY people who like Brosnan as Bond.

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same here

I even know a few who think he is the best

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When Peter Parker decides to give up being Spiderman, it shows a scene that plays in semi-slow motion, with him walking, to show how much his life has improved since throwing in the towel. I believe he was walking to college, was wearing black pants, and trips.

What is the song that plays during this scene? Anyone have any idea what I am talking about?

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You're the first one I've seen who didn't say "Brosnan killed James Bond" or anything like that...
Everybody I know hates the new James Bond movies...


I won't blame the new Bond movies on Brosnan. I blame it more on the writing. it's becoming too hollywoodish. They are losing some of the trademark stuff. It's just another action film- nothing special.

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Saw Spiderman 2.

Is good. Not great, but good. 1 was slightly better.

Pierce Brosnan has done nothing to kill Bond. In fact, he's been one of the better ones. Bond has been diminished by what Dissident mentioned--the writing.

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Just saw it last night:

pro:
-some funny moments like the elevator scene and "don't open the caviar!"
-more interesting villian.

con:
-I just couldn't suspend disbelief with Doc Oc. I kept on thinking to myself, "he can't move that fast. He can't outrun a police chopper, why don't they just shoot him, he's no tougher than anyone else and he'd just die."
-Oh ye Gods the moralizing got annoying. All the lectures about responsibility and what it means to be a hero had me groaning after a while.
-I liked Spidey better in the first one. He got to be much to much of a weenie in this one. Spidey is supposed to be a cocky, funny, a bit of an outsider and very human but not a whiny psychosomatic

Overall a real . I thought that X-Men 2 was much better, especially since it has morals that aren't beaten into your head with a sledgehammer like in Spiderman 2. I love the coming out scene in X-Men 2 and morality being fuzzy enough to make alliances of convenience with the enemey necessary, which I think makes for a much more interesting movie than all the dry moralizing in Spiderman. Better fight scenes too.

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What is the song that plays during this scene? Anyone have any idea what I am talking about?


"Raindrops Keep Falling on my Head" by BJ Thomas

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Well I saw it again with friends today. It didn't suck me in as totally as the first time, but it is still an amazing flick.

Of a virtually flawless movie, only two things bugged me. (har har)

First is the landlord's daughter. What the hell is the point of her? The scene where they eat cake is absolutely pointless.

Second, they cut scenes too quick. Good for the MTV generation I suppose, but they'd have an amazingly touching, sad scene, and then half a second later jump to a brooding, evil scene, and then half a second later go to comedy, then action, then romance, then... Each scene was a work of art, but we needed more time to sit and appreciate each scene before jumping to the next one.

But in spite of that, still a kick ass movie.

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Not only does that mean he's unknowledgable about late-1960's popular music, it also means he hasn't seen Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid.

Verto, you need to get out more or something.

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Off to see the movie. If this thing sucks, somebody here owes me $6.50!

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If you hated the first one, you're more than likely going to hate the second. So that's all on you.

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"Raindrops Keep Falling on my Head" by BJ Thomas


Thanks. I knew the song, but by the next day it was just a fuzzy memory. The tune and the name were on the tip of my tongue, and it's been driving me crazy.

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Man, I love going to the movies. No matter how the film turns out, once you sit down in that seat, the atmosphere of expectation almost leaves me giddy, regardless of my mood when I first entered the theater.

Spiderman 2 was a very good popcorn flick. It had flair, style, and even a little bit of character development, so that the characters who opened the movie were not the same people when they left it. The storyboard plotting for the F/X scenes must have been quite intricate, given the speed at which they occurred and the fact that they didn't lose continuity is a big plus in my book (however, continuity errors are readily more apparant on second and later viewings). Far superior to the first film, this is the most enjoyable summer action movie that I've seen in a long while. All the action scenes are as exhilirating as they appear in the trailer, and Toby McGuire (sp?) gives an almost nuanced performance as Peter Parker... easily the best acted Superhero since Christopher Reeves in the first two Superman movies.

It did drag a bit at times, which is to be expected because you can't keep up the pace relentlessly. Kirsten Dunst... I never bought into their relationship in the first movie, and I didn't buy into it here. When she told him at the end "I think I knew all along", it was all I could do to stop rolling my eyes. Actually, I didn't even try to stop it.

Aunt May was a hoot, especially with her big scene with Doc Ock (sp?). I'm rather surprised that the question of where Peter went in the bank was never resolved on-screen, but it is strongly hinted at towards the end of the movie that she realizes that Peter is Spiderman, and has realized it for quite awhile.

The villain was believably human, though the resolution to the crisis was - able. I'm glad that, unlike W. Dafoe's character in the first film, they decided early on what his motivations were - he was possessed by machinery. However, it's a damn good thing for him that nobody ever thought to aim a gun at his head.

I agree that this is to SM1 what Empire Strikes Back was to SW - a deepening of the mythology while still keeping with the flair of the original (even though I don't think either original films were very good.)

Superman 1 and 2 still are the standards by which these films are to be judged by. But Spiderman 2 is a worthy contender, imnsho.

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First is the landlord's daughter. What the hell is the point of her? The scene where they eat cake is absolutely pointless.


The point was to show that a Spiderman-less Peter was attractive to not only more girls than Peter+Spiderman, but to a different type of girl: note that the landlords daughter had more than an air of the skank about her, implying that without the responsibility of the job, Peter would fall into the wrong elements - the beautiful, virginal Kirsten would've never gone for "regular" Peter, but the skanks would.

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Glad you liked it John . For me it has surpassed the first Spidey as the best Superhero movie ever. Truly a phenomenal flick.

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RE: The Cake scene

The cake bit fit the movie's later theme of how people are capable of kind surprises. The entire first part of the movie was about how absolutely awful life can be with bad thing after bad thing happening to Peter Parker. The flip side is represented though in instances like the cake scene with the neighbor and in the way the train people were protective of Spiderman. I found that moment with the neighbor a simple yet surprisingly intimate, soothing, and poignant respite from the more manic slam bang character of most of the movie. It is small quiet touches like this that raise the movie to a higher standard.

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I read it totally differently. However, I'm not going to argue the point because the timeline is not fixed totally in my head in regards to where Peter was in his relationship with Mary Jane.

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I'm sure yours is a valid interpretation too, I didn't mean to imply otherwise, that's just what I got from the scene.

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Aunt May was a hoot, especially with her big scene with Doc Ock (sp?). I'm rather surprised that the question of where Peter went in the bank was never resolved on-screen, but it is strongly hinted at towards the end of the movie that she realizes that Peter is Spiderman, and has realized it for quite awhile.


If she didn't already know as a result of cleaning out Peter's comic books - wasn't that where he kept his Spidey drawings?

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saw it, liked it, better than the first one and i want to marry kirsten dunst, don't ask me why.

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does Kirsten have any hot scenes?

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I guess I may see this one. I wasn't a big fan of the first. But this one seems more interesting to me.

 
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