01-07-2004 04:59									#91
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Most police officers go on power trips. I have learned it's best not to even talk to them.

	01-07-2004 05:01									#92
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True dat.

	01-07-2004 05:05									#93
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I really hope that's not true. I have a lot of respect for what police officers do. They are vital to our society. But I hope this police officer loses his job.

	01-07-2004 05:06									#94
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if your bro was peacfully protesting this event, as realy, none of us here actualy know what happened, and all you have is his account, all i can say is that the officer was wrong. nnow even if he didtrespass, he didnt resist arrest, as he wasnt notified of an actual arrest and as for disturbing the peace, maybe, but the ex-marine should also cop that one as well.

but my personal oppinion here, its just suppresion of anti gov't oppinion

	01-07-2004 05:11									#95
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quote: Originally posted by Lorizael I really hope that's not true. I have a lot of respect for what police officers do. They are vital to our society. But I hope this police officer loses his job.

Not a chance.

They won't even slap him on the wrist. I doubt any officers would consider his actions wrong in the slightest. I mean, did those guys in NY who sodomized a guy with a broom even get fired? I thought they were just transfered or sent a half-stern letter.

	01-07-2004 05:12									#96
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I know the chances are slim. Police officers are very well protected.

	01-07-2004 05:12									#97
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quote: Originally posted by Kidicious JohnT, Looking very fascist today, aren't we?

	01-07-2004 05:13									#98
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quote: Originally posted by Lorizael I really hope that's not true. I have a lot of respect for what police officers do. They are vital to our society. But I hope this police officer loses his job.

I respect police officers too. They do a lot of good work. I'm not one of these anarchists/commies who are against our police forces. Trust me, I'm glad they are there.

But one cannot deny that fact that power corrupts. And when put in a position of power, many people do go on power trips. Not all, but many.

	01-07-2004 05:14									#99
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quote: Originally posted by Lorizael I agree. But why is your wife more knowledgeable here? Pretend for a moment that I know nothing about her except the fact that she is married to you and has a child with you.

Because she was well-mannered and I was a chest-thumpin', always-arguing teenage-boy (actually, 20) when we met. Because she knows more about these things than I do. Because she's made me into a better man.

	01-07-2004 07:08									#100
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yeah everyone here is so insecure about their manhood that they have to constantly talk about how manly they are, and how whimpy whiners deserve to get whupped.

	01-07-2004 07:17									#101
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Civil Disobedience Gone Bad?

From the description of his behaviour, maybe your brother should try being more civil and less disobedient in the future.

And not automatically blame just about everyone but himself for his apparent lack of self-control.

	01-07-2004 07:18									#102
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Did you enjoy having the Czechs hand the Danes their asses, Winston?

	01-07-2004 07:20									#103
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Not really, no.

	01-07-2004 07:22									#104
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quote: Originally posted by Lawrence of Arabia yeah everyone here is so insecure about their manhood that they have to constantly talk about how manly they are, and how whimpy whiners deserve to get whupped.

Yes we should all salute people who go around picking fights.

	01-07-2004 07:26									#105
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yes we should lock up everyone who says something someone else doesnt like

	01-07-2004 07:29									#106
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Who said anything about locking up people who pick fights?

	01-07-2004 07:39									#107
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and yea, having said the mall was at fault, you will respect that officer's AUTHORITAH!

	01-07-2004 07:52									#108
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Malls suck.

	01-07-2004 07:55									#109
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quote: Originally posted by Lawrence of Arabia yeah everyone here is so insecure about their manhood that they have to constantly talk about how manly they are, and how whimpy whiners deserve to get whupped.

I beg your pardon? He asked me a question and I answered it. If you didn't like my answer, then fvck off - I wasn't talking to you in the first place.

	01-07-2004 08:46									#110
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this kind of thing can only lead to trouble.

if I saw someone beating on my brother who wasn't me I would try to inflict as much damage as possible, thoughts about jail wouldn't even enter into it.

	01-07-2004 08:57									#111
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The police officer was a dumb-ass thug and your brother was foolish.


no winners here

	01-07-2004 09:58									#112
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quote: Originally posted by DinoDoc Whinny asses deserve to get beaten.

Picking a fight here, eh, you rude, uncivlised savage? I am going to whomp your sorry ass.

	01-07-2004 09:58									#113
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Bring it! You can't handle me!

	01-07-2004 10:00									#114
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Attica!

	01-07-2004 10:05									#115
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quote: Originally posted by Seeker if I saw someone beating on my brother who wasn't me I would try to inflict as much damage as possible, thoughts about jail wouldn't even enter into it.

I'm not really sure I could bring myself to defend my siblings from a beating they provoked.

	01-07-2004 10:25									#116
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You're not a very good brother then.

	01-07-2004 10:28									#117
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quote: Originally posted by OzzyKP Not a chance. They won't even slap him on the wrist. I doubt any officers would consider his actions wrong in the slightest. I mean, did those guys in NY who sodomized a guy with a broom even get fired? I thought they were just transfered or sent a half-stern letter.

You're kidding, right?

The one who did that, Justin Volpe, got thirty years' hard time.

	01-07-2004 15:47									#118
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quote: Originally posted by The Mad Monk You're kidding, right? The one who did that, Justin Volpe, got thirty years' hard time.

Don't ruin it for him!

	01-07-2004 19:14									#119
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quote: Originally posted by Winston Civil Disobedience Gone Bad? From the description of his behaviour, maybe your brother should try being more civil and less disobedient in the future. And not automatically blame just about everyone but himself for his apparent lack of self-control.

He blamed everyone but himself? Wow. What orafice did you pull that from?

	01-07-2004 19:44									#120
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I think the cop acted badly. I think the ex-marine acted badly. And I think your brother acted badly:

quote: Eventually the recruiters got tired of my brother and called mall security. Mall security arrives and tells him to leave. He refuses to do so until they present a letter of trespass. More time passes, more threats are made against my brother, more demands of departure, and a city police offer shows up.

At that point, you toss a couple of comments about shutting down dissenting views over your shoulder and LEAVE. Instead, he stayed, deliberately "picking a fight" (I put it in quotes because it's pretty clear he didn't actually want to get into a physical brawl) with the authorities. This leads to his being restrained.

Then...

quote: He was told that he was not being arrested. He was hand-cuffed. He is not being told what is happening to him. He considers this to be kidnapping and breaks free of the police officer.

Kidnapping? Come ON. The cop was taking him out of the mall. The handcuffs were to restrain him. Duh. The cop could definitely have defused this situation by quietly telling your brother he was merely being removed from the mall. However, "breaking free of the officer" was just idiotic. Seriously, what did he expect the officer to do? Let him go? Suddenly decide to have a friendly chat with him? Hell no, the guy was going to restrain him again, harder this time.

And here is where the cop shows that he is an assholio:

quote: At this point my brother calms down because the arrest is now lawful. But soon he notices that he is bleeding. He requests medical attention immediately. The officer does not listen to him. There is blood all over the place. It is obvious he is injured, but the officer simply continues to make sure my brother has trouble getting enough air to remain conscious. Eventually my brother struggles away from the officer so that he can see where he is bleeding and how bad the injury is. The officer proceeds to pull out his taser and hold it to him, saying, "Watcha gonna do now?" over and over. My brother asks the officer if he is really going to taser an injured person lying on their back in handcuffs. The officer puts away the stun gun.

Jerk.

-Arrian