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To find the Northwest Passage
Aug 2001
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Americans can't handle the truth. They'll just scream "Anti-American" and start muttering about crimes committed by other countries.
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Vince278
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Originally posted by MichaeltheGreat
All resource rights contracts signed with the Cuban government during the Batista regime was obtained by kickbacks to Batista and his wife. He was completely open about the process. The same thing generally applied to equipment supply and just about every other business contract.
Certainly there's enough taint from the US side that it's not an open and shut issue as to whether seizures were unjustified. |
Another victim of the Yankee Traders in the early 20th century?
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Solomwi
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Don King of the Apolyton HLA Movement
Dec 2002
time: 23:37
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quote:
Originally posted by MichaeltheGreat
All resource rights contracts signed with the Cuban government during the Batista regime was obtained by kickbacks to Batista and his wife. He was completely open about the process. The same thing generally applied to equipment supply and just about every other business contract.
Certainly there's enough taint from the US side that it's not an open and shut issue as to whether seizures were unjustified. |
I agree with your last statement, and in my dismissiveness of the business side of them, didn't distinguish between legitimately and illegitimately gained assets, etc.
What you've said, though, doesn't really address what I was explaining to MrFun that I'd like to see: the return to Cuban nationals of their property, mainly the land, of which plenty was nationalized that had no connection to gov't contracts, etc. That's what the broad brush comment referenced, and if you didn't mean for it to address this, mea culpa. 
Vince, Ted, Britney said flip a coin, post the winner and she'll be there when I'm done (giuve me 2-3 minutes once I stop posting). 
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chegitz guevara
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Ft. Lauderdale, FL Communist Party of Apolyton
Jun 2000
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And remember, the Cubans did try and compensate the companies. The companies, however, refused to be compensated. From a strict libertarian standpoint, yes, Cuba was wrong. But from every other standpoint in the world, "Hey, you don't wan't the money, no problem. You don't have to have the money." 
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Originally posted by Vince278
Another victim of the Yankee Traders in the early 20th century? |
More of the United States DoWing Spain when Cuba had them on the ropes, invading Duba and "liberating" it the Spanish, then telling the Cubans that if they wanted the U.S. to leave, they had to put these certain amendments in their Constitution, which effectively made the American ambassador the ruler of the country (think Paul Bremer, only Tameney Hall style).
Under American rule, the island was effectively bought up by U.S. companies. Cuba became a playground for America's wealthy while the average Cuban lived a life of desperate poverty.
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Vince278
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Originally posted by chegitz guevara
Under American rule, the island was effectively bought up by U.S. companies. Cuba became a playground for America's wealthy while the average Cuban lived a life of desperate poverty. |
That's pretty much how the Yankee Traders operated. They were so infamous that they became the model for the Ferengi in ST:TNG (as a matter of fact, when the Ferengi were first encountered on the show Data used the phrase "Yankee Traders" to describe them in a nutshell).
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