01-07-2004 07:17									#1
	Why is the US Picking on CUBA??? Support Apolyton, buy Alpha Centauri

I really don't get it.


I think they have some nukes trained on us!!!

There are plenty of other enemies to worry about such as the dumbasses in Sudan.

So what exactly has Cuba done in the last 20 years that is such a threat to national security. Leave the little guys alone.

	01-07-2004 07:20									#2
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Ask Dubya.

	01-07-2004 07:21									#3
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nothing but stay alive, i think the yanks are just annoyed that they cant say they killed communism (whetther cuba is or aint) if they havent killed cuba

	01-07-2004 07:23									#4
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Yeah I sometimes think that it's been said that some people in the administration have a personal thing against Cuba.

Sometimes I think the administration is stuck in a time warp and is trying to accomplish goals that are 10 years old instead of looking at the present situation.

	01-07-2004 07:25									#5
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Why not pick on Cuba?

	01-07-2004 07:26									#6
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The more DD answer would have been "because we can".

you're slipping.

	01-07-2004 07:27									#7
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You also missed the little sunglasses icon at the top left of your post.

	01-07-2004 07:28									#8
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quote: Originally posted by KrazyHorse The more DD answer would have been "because we can".

It's more smart ass to answer a question with a question.

	01-07-2004 07:35									#10
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Sure there's not much benefit to messing with Cuba, but there's little cost or risk either. The US just doesn't want to look weak at a time like this.

	01-07-2004 08:40									#11
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Don't mess with the western Benghali tributaries

	01-07-2004 08:41									#12
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We'll stop picking on them when they return the property they nationalized.

	01-07-2004 08:49									#13
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Because the Cuban exiles and their descendants in south Florida make up a strong political block. This is one of the big reasons I want to see Cheney stay on the ticket and Bush/Cheney win. With a second term president and a VP with no shot at a run in '08, I think the embargoes can be lifted with minimal political fallout and Cuba can be reintegrated into the hemisphere.

For the record, I have the same goal as Shi, but think a reintegration is the best way to accomplish it. Granted, in 1960, who knew Castro was going to have the lifespan of Dick Clark? The isolation approach has run its course and failed, though, and it's time to try something new. That can't be done as long as an incumbent is reliant upon Cuban votes to help deliver the state.

	01-07-2004 08:51									#14
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at both of you thinking that whenever Castro dies or Cuba undergoes another revolution that the nationalised property from 40 years ago is going to be paid for.

	01-07-2004 08:52									#15
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quote: Originally posted by Ted Striker I really don't get it. I think they have some nukes trained on us!!! There are plenty of other enemies to worry about such as the dumbasses in Sudan. So what exactly has Cuba done in the last 20 years that is such a threat to national security. Leave the little guys alone.

You're not being patriotically correct.

	01-07-2004 09:00									#16
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quote: Originally posted by Ted Striker So what exactly has Cuba done in the last 20 years that is such a threat to national security. Leave the little guys alone.

Come to think of it, the US has been picking on the little guys since WWII.

	01-07-2004 09:09									#17
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quote: Originally posted by Solomwi Because the Cuban exiles and their descendants in south Florida make up a strong political block. This is one of the big reasons I want to see Cheney stay on the ticket and Bush/Cheney win. With a second term president and a VP with no shot at a run in '08, I think the embargoes can be lifted with minimal political fallout and Cuba can be reintegrated into the hemisphere. For the record, I have the same goal as Shi, but think a reintegration is the best way to accomplish it. Granted, in 1960, who knew Castro was going to have the lifespan of Dick Clark? The isolation approach has run its course and failed, though, and it's time to try something new. That can't be done as long as an incumbent is reliant upon Cuban votes to help deliver the state.

This is true, the city of Miami should be named New Havana.

	01-07-2004 09:16									#18
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Also, Cuba is a socialist country. We don't want them to be rich, otherwise people might think csocialism works and adopt socialism as a model. Thus the embargo.

	01-07-2004 09:19									#19
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quote: Originally posted by Urban Ranger Come to think of it, the US has been picking on the little guys since WWII.

China has a glorious record

	01-07-2004 09:23									#21
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quote: Originally posted by Ted Striker

Thanks for the agreement.

quote: Originally posted by Ted Striker China has a glorious record

Interesting history book you have been reading there

	01-07-2004 09:25									#22
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quote: Originally posted by Urban Ranger Interesting history book you have been reading there

Yeah, this one was written by those aggressive people of Tibet.

Oh look it even has pictures!

	01-07-2004 09:40									#23
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I don't see a reason how Tiananmen was worse than Waco. We have no evidence how many people were killed in either case and both goverments are officially representing that it never happened.

On-topic, the only reason that I've known so far for the US' anti-Cuba attitude is:

quote: Also, Cuba is a socialist country. We don't want them to be rich, otherwise people might think csocialism works and adopt socialism as a model. Thus the embargo.

If anyone knows any real reasons (DD, I'm looking at you), feel free to enlighten me.

	01-07-2004 09:48									#24
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quote: Originally posted by VJ I don't see a reason how Tiananmen was worse than Waco.

Where did you get THAT from?????

Tianammen was a bunch of students peacefully protesting.

Waco was a bunch of belligerent wackos who were being served arrest warrants because of all those "harmless" firearms and explosives they refused to give up.

There is no question the government leadership on the scene screwed up, but the Davidians inside started the fire that eventually killed everyone inside the compound.

80 people were killed along with 22 children and there was a huge Congressional hearing along with several followup investigative reports on it.

	01-07-2004 09:54									#25
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quote: Originally posted by VJ I don't see a reason how Tiananmen was worse than Waco.

Waco was an opperation FUBARed from the begining. Tiananmen largely went down the way the Chinese wanted.

quote: (DD, I'm looking at you)

Why look at me?

	01-07-2004 10:18									#26
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quote: Tianammen was a bunch of students peacefully protesting. Waco was a bunch of belligerent wackos who were being served arrest warrants because of all those "harmless" firearms and explosives they refused to give up.

I'm pretty sure Chinese officials find their own way of presenting this interpretetation their way around.

quote: There is no question the government leadership on the scene screwed up, but the Davidians inside started the fire that eventually killed everyone inside the compound.

I'm having a feeling that I should just STFU when I start speaking about another country's internal history with a native.

quote: Why look at me?

When it comes down to international politics between US and a random hostile nation, I have a history (=one case) of completely misunderstanding the actual situation and meanings of different events when talking with you. Just trying to cover my back, that's all.

	01-07-2004 10:30									#27
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DD tries his best to be inscrutable but he's an open book to me.

	01-07-2004 10:34									#28
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Sorry, Cuba can burn in the hell they created for themselves for all I care.

(What Ted? Not a single mention of Britney yet? )

	01-07-2004 13:34									#29
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er..... ted striker.... errr.... .......

	01-07-2004 14:37									#30
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quote: Originally posted by VJ I'm having a feeling that I should just STFU when I start speaking about another country's internal history with a native.

Ted Striker and DD should take lessons from you.