17-01-2005 11:24									#451
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Don't know if we have to take the news in their gazette too seriously... but I didn't take the effort to read it yet, so...

	17-01-2005 12:33									#452
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now i'm puzzled...

	18-01-2005 09:49									#453
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Join the club...

	19-01-2005 10:27									#454
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I haven't done so yet, but I am going to inform Gaians that the spore launcher will be transferred to them as a gift and support of their war effort.

	19-01-2005 11:12									#455
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Updated technology intelligence, finally after 10 years lag
http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...threadid=120029

	20-01-2005 08:55									#456
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The reply from Gaians, re Spartan proposal:

quote: 1. Sparta gives Gaians EcolEng. 2. Gaia switches research to IntInt, provided they could get IntInt several years earlier than the Angels. 3. Gaia gives Sparta - and the Angels - IntInt when it's researched. Gaia gets in return from the Angels something return. 4. The Angels switch research to Cyberethics (should that be possible), and give it to Sparta when researched. We find this acceptable. I propose we give you EE in return for control of SL and tech of our choosing - is this acceptable to Angels? I'll give you Hive base coordinates tommorow.

	20-01-2005 09:02									#457
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I checked technology choices sheet. In order to be offered Cyberethics we will need get 2 additional techs. Thus Gaians need to transfer a technology (EE ?) before IntInt so we can switch to Cyberethics

	20-01-2005 14:43									#458
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Re permission for Sparta to infiltrate us to acquire tech during sunspots. Only granted on a reciprocal basis ie they allow us to infiltrate/probe them.

Ok on above exchange deal

	20-01-2005 20:07									#459
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Wait a sec, how can the Spartans acquire tech during sunspots? Does the diplo screen still works then for human teams? And if so, why do they need infiltration then?

	20-01-2005 22:17									#460
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Is that you back now Geo? If so, welcome back. You must tell us about your travels. (preferably in a newspaper format) Intelligence gathering in Middleearth.

re tech exchange/acquistion during sunspots. You can still probe and steal tech from other factions, the diplo message from whom you steal (or maybe its your own) will ask whether to declare vendetta or strong rebuke. You or they choose strong rebuke and hence you can continue.

However it tended to be accepted for factions adjacent to each other and in prior contact obviously (see Hive and Drones relationship in ACDG2 during sunspots).

	21-01-2005 12:10									#461
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I'm back in Europe now, yes. Next 3 days I have nightshift tho, so 't might be a slow re-entry.

A yes, so we still must 'see' a Spartan unit to have proper contact. The Cyborgs got into problems with that when the Uni was pacted with the Cyborgs without checking each other units first.

	23-01-2005 10:25									#462
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Heh. Well, I'm for it, especially since the Spartans will need to give us at least one shore base coordinate so we can properly probe/infiltrate them. Likewise, we need to trade maps with them, the last thing I want to happen is for us to just end up with a world map from them, after all (even though that too would be valuable.)

	23-01-2005 10:26									#463
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Oh, and welcome back Geo!

	23-01-2005 10:42									#464
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You sure?

	24-01-2005 02:30									#465
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From Illu:

quote: Labor Network 33,47 Society Grid 37,49 Society of Proper Thought 47,49 These three bases are the closest coastal bases for you. We use the last one for our probes. If you go for SPT, you'll need to go around a dozen tile sited peninsula and go through at least one tile of xenofungus. On the other hand (if I may suggest), to reach Society grid you need 12 movement points and you don't have to breach any fungus. If you prefer to concentrate on extraction of technologies from Yang, you could skip infiltrating him and simply ask us for information you need on him, since we already infiltrated him - just a friendly suggestion.

It seems to me that we can infiltrate the Hive as well with one of the probes in the transport in two turns. Or had those already another destination?

	24-01-2005 02:58									#466
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I hope they didn't have another destination, because we do need to get infiltration on as many factions as possible so we can get one of our faction specific abilities up and running.

	24-01-2005 04:46									#467
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We had no specific destinations in mind but the general strategy aim of infiltration of any and all factions asap.
Atm the moment we don't need new techs, until we get our growth and energy going.

Yangs world maps though would be very useful.

	24-01-2005 10:06									#468
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Can't aruge about that one.

	24-01-2005 11:49									#469
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Goe, so you will visit Embassies too now

Reading Illu message - to Society Grid where there is no fungus? is it right? if we go around the peninsula, that foresty one - we have 2 tiles of fungus.

	24-01-2005 17:10									#470
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I forgot the password for the Spartan diplomaty forum, so can't check that one atm.

	24-01-2005 17:11									#471
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quote: Originally posted by Hercules Yangs world maps though would be very useful.

They would, but at a risk of war.
Also, maps are only available for download when all his techs are 'disclosed'.

	03-02-2005 17:44									#472
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Diplomatic post received from the Morgans!

quote: Mead wrote on 03-02-2005 07:59: Greetings GeoModder: I am pleased to meet the Data Angel faction that we have thought of with great fondness. As time is of the essense (I am very tired and need to go to sleep soon, plus the Morgan turn is coming up shortly), I am pleased to announce that one of our ships has made contact with one of your bases. Please be advised that we are interested into entering into trade with you as well as tech exchanges and other mutually profitable ventures. Please let me know if you would be interested in mutully profitable trade, tech exchanges, and similarly mutully beneficial ventures. Mead Chief Diplomatic Offoce (CDO) Morgan Corp PS Please note our turn is up soon (about 16-17 hours). Please let us know what you would like to offer so we can act on it before the turn is up for us. If I am not available or respond (because of RL) before the turn is up, please PM jtisyoda (the turnplayer).

So, do we ask for a Treaty, or keep it low for a while? 12 hours to go if I'm calculating correctly...

	03-02-2005 18:04									#473
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Hmm

Spartans, probably have infiltrated Morgan but we are not sure, certainly earlier they knew alot about Morgan and had exchanged techs. So had they infiltration or was it just a pact.

If they have infiltration then they will be able to discover/note our relationship with Morgan.

I think just a treaty for the trade ecs for the moment. When we next get the turn we can check which techs of ours they don't have.

We might ask them what techs they have to trade.

	03-02-2005 18:08									#474
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I suppose we could ask them to put the Treaty proposal in the box already. We can always discuss it more indept whether or not to accept it.

I'll sent a response of this kind then.

	03-02-2005 18:17									#475
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I've sent this:

quote: Greetings to the Morgans, We've anticipated for a while contact with our Morgan neighbours, and are glad we have finally met. As for the short timeframe you wish us to decide whether or not to conduct friendly relations and trades of sorts, I can at this stage only say that the Morgans may put a Treaty offer in the next diplomatic cache and by the time our administration is able to proces it our future relations will be discussed throughly in our Network, and with you of course. Sincerely, DataJack GeoModder

	03-02-2005 18:43									#476
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And our message has been received...

So, let's talk cash here. Treaty with Morgans, yes or no. Tech trading with Morgans, yes or no.

Your votes please.

	04-02-2005 08:43									#477
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If I remember and predict correctly, Spartans traded Progenitor Psych from Morganities. Though I may be mistaken. Then it should be ok for us trade technologies with Morganities - Spartans cannot acuse us for supporting them. Gaians? I do not know.
Treaty for EC - yes. We need them, though Morganities of course will get more ...

	04-02-2005 19:45									#478
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I go for making atrade agreement then working from there.

	04-02-2005 23:38									#479
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4 in favour of a Treaty thus (myself included). I'll let them know and hopefully they have put it in the diplomatic cache ready to be accepted by us.

More votes are needed for the tech exchange already vs take it easy approach.

	04-02-2005 23:47									#480
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I've sent this message to the Morgans:

quote: Members of the Corporation, It is with pleasure I announce to you that the DataJacks accept a Treaty of Friendship with their Corporation counterparts. Once we have established this we're willing to start negotiations on possible technology exchanges. Looking at the seemingly powerfull position your faction has, we expect that not much tech exchanges will be possible though due to the high level of knowledge this position represents. But speaking about it never hurts of course. Regards, IT GeoModder