05-07-2004 02:26									#1
	6th Apolyton CtP2 SP Tournament: 4 July - 5 August 2004 Support Apolyton or Terrorists Win

This game has been canceled, see this thread for the new game.

I think its about time for the 6th SP tournament . This one uses Goodmod for Apolyton Pack V2.0! and the 2004.06.28.CTP2 Playtest. Installation instructions can be found below.

This game emphasizes extremes in terrain (I hope) of desert and and ice. Its going to be mostly land to help the AI so they put a a good fight.

Since its been a long time since the last game I though I would reveiw what the tournament game is:

quote: Apolyton CtP2 Tournaments are a feature in which every so often a new game will be started, saved in the very first turn and placed it on this site. Then everyone can download this (zipped) savegame and play it. When you've done this and you've finished your game, submit the final savegame to us and a ranking of everyone who has participated will be made. There will be two winners for every victory type (Conquest, Diplomacy, Science, etc): one for the highest score and one for the earliest year in which the victory was achieved. You can compare your score with other people's and see how good you are. You are very much encouraged to discuss your progress and share your experiences with other players in the forums. You can discuss strategies and use tips and tricks of other players to improve your own game. It's a very casual contest, the discussion is just as important as the contest.

Good luck to All! Installation and game information is listed below.
You have until August the 5th to post your saved game. I have make no modifications to the map and will be participating in the tournament.

Installation

-Install Call to Power 2, you can install the 1.11 Patch but its not necessary
-Download the 2004.6.28 Playtest here , and unzip it into your main CAll to Power to directory.
-Download either modswrapper or modmanager from here and follow the installation instructions.
-Download Super Apolyton Pack and Goodmod from here
-Follow the instructions here to get mods to work with the playtest.

I think thats it

Theme: Hot and Cold
Playtest dated 6.28
Mod: GoodMod1 for Apolyton Pack 2
Level: Hard
Size: Huge Map
Barbarians: Raiders
Ocean-Land: 80%
Island-Continent: 60%
Wet-Dry: 100%
Warm-Cold: 100%
Uniform-Diverse: 60%
Few Goods-Many Goods: 30%
World shape: Doughnut
Bloodlust: Off
Pollution: On
Civilization: Egyptians
Opponents: 7 (Russian, Viking, Aztec, German, Native American, Portuguese, Japanese)
Victory types allowed: All

Gamefile

	05-07-2004 02:32									#2
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I guess diplo-victory is almost out of the question with frenzy AI in SAP, and i guess we're not allowed to disable it...

edit: I cant download the gamefile either.

	05-07-2004 02:34									#3
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quote: Originally posted by Maquiladora I guess diplo-victory is almost out of the question with frenzy AI in SAP, and i guess we're not allowed to disable it...

Erm.. I guess not.

	05-07-2004 02:40									#4
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Does that download work for the gamefile? It doesn't seem to for me....

	05-07-2004 02:43									#5
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Heres the files again if the other one isn't working for you, remember to set debugslic to no just in case.

Attachment: 47183_cleopa.zip
This has been downloaded 2 time(s).

	05-07-2004 02:44									#6
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Actually, it doesn't matter whether you install 1.11 or not. The changes it makes to the exe are anyway gone when you replace the patched exe by the playtest exe.

And yeah, with the standard buggy Frenzy AI, diplo victory can't happen, you'd be lucky to ever stop a war after it starts.

	05-07-2004 03:50									#7
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We played a previous tournament with AP and 4 of us got a diplo-victory. Not sure whether Apoly Pack included frenzy at that time though. In fact Martin G got a diplo-victory in the SAP2 tourny too, it was a late one, but its possible.

http://ctp2files.apolyton.net/tournaments.php

Anyway im all up and running now, so we'll see.

	05-07-2004 04:08									#8
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OKay, sounds good. I fixed the Gamefile link so it should work now. BTW Can we get an annoucement of the game on the cTP2 page?

	05-07-2004 08:44									#9
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Okay im having a small problem, i say small because its only a missing image (although there may be more missing), but it does crash the game.

I meet the Aztecs and try to send them diplomacy proposal and the game drops to desktop and the monzezuma1.tga is missing, ive looked and its required in APOL_civ_str.txt and the image doesnt come with apolpack.zip from the directory.

I installed in the exact order as described in your post EPW, including downloading them from all the locations you gave. Did you get this problem or similar?

and whats a quick fix so i can continue/complete the game?

	05-07-2004 09:19									#10
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I have a much more serious problem, the game gets extremely slow during the AI's turn and its almost impossible to continue. I have no idea whats going wrong but i think it must having something to do with the playtest.
As for your problem I have no idea, except to make sure to set debugslic=no. Also did you run the modupdater tool for both Apolyton mod and goodmod?

	05-07-2004 09:34									#11
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Yep, ran the updater tool for both mod prefixes (after downloading ms update poo) and set debug slic, no.

Itll be a small miracle if we get our games finished.

	05-07-2004 10:09									#12
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I restarted my game and had the same problem that you had Maq. Not sure what to do....

	05-07-2004 10:29									#13
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The problem does not occur in the 1.11 version, maybe we should start another game using the patch?

	05-07-2004 11:54									#14
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I think we should, but id still like to know why we got this error and not with 1.1 patch. Start a new game and thread yeah anyway.

	05-07-2004 22:02									#15
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quote: Originally posted by Maquiladora We played a previous tournament with AP and 4 of us got a diplo-victory. Not sure whether Apoly Pack included frenzy at that time though. In fact Martin G got a diplo-victory in the SAP2 tourny too, it was a late one, but its possible. http://ctp2files.apolyton.net/tournaments.php Anyway im all up and running now, so we'll see.

Well it was something like getting strong and then ask:

What about an alliance?
What no alliance? Let's make war?
I knew that I could convince that an alliance is good in mutual interests and mutual benifit.

-Martin

	05-07-2004 22:55									#16
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quote: Originally posted by Maquiladora I meet the Aztecs and try to send them diplomacy proposal and the game drops to desktop and the monzezuma1.tga is missing, ive looked and its required in APOL_civ_str.txt and the image doesnt come with apolpack.zip from the directory. [...] and whats a quick fix so i can continue/complete the game?

Edit APOL_civ_str.txt and change the file name. In the original game, the picture file names have been moved to add_str.txt, so check out that file for a list of pictures that should be available. The Aztecs are not in the original game, so the best match is probably the Nicaraguan "updp036.tga".

The problem should not occur in the original game, because it does not display the pictures.

	05-07-2004 23:17									#17
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Thx for the help, but I'm going to start a new thread, this game has too many problems.

Can someone close this so it doesn't get confused with the new one?

	05-07-2004 23:55									#18
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Well that might be the problem with all mods, we never took care about the pictures in these files, because they were never used so you have to find a good one for all of them. Another problem is that for the mod compartibility just a minimum amount of work was done like adding the critical line to const.txt and maybe some others to the other text files, and finally we added to the playtest version a lot of strings that aren't in the mods.

-Martin

	06-07-2004 05:34									#19
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BTW just so you know, though SAP2 does use Frenzy AI, I tamed it down a lot. Basically SAP2 uses it to group units together.

It doesn't use the Frenzy-a-metre to raise the agro level at all.

Dale