08-07-2004 09:08									#31
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BOOT THE BA5TARD!

	08-07-2004 09:23									#32
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WTF!!!!

	08-07-2004 09:30									#33
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Get the mods to him!

	08-07-2004 09:40									#34
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quote: How do I manage my region? The person who created a region is known as its "Founder," and can access a page called "Regional Control." This allows him or her to set the World Factbook Entry, password-protect the region (to make it invitation-only), and eject troublemakers. Regional Control is also available to UN Delegates, although the Founder can disable this.

If the UN Delegate has access to the Regional Control, can he boot the founder???

I lodged a complaint on the "Getting Help" page. I am sure there are rules about how many people can be booted from a region at one time (i.e. a lot less than 83!).

	08-07-2004 09:46									#35
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We should be able to contact everyone via PM here or Telegram at NationStates:

The Dominion of Neon Canada > 123john321
The Federated Corporations of Admaria > AdamTG02
The Republic of Karaistan > alms66
The Dominion of Sirian Knights > Andemagne
The Holy Empire of Arkatahten > arkatahten
The Jingoistic States of Dementae > Arnelos
The Republic of Regnatoris > Arnelos
The Empire of Athan > Athan
The Trisian State of Azure Dianoga > Ave'Tris
The Community of Aurora West > Azazel
The Republic of New Azan > Azazel
The Grand Duchy of Basus > Basus
The Rogue Nation of Boondi > Boondi
The Apolytonian Republic of Ceroo > ceroomaster
The Ibizan Party Town of San Antonio Bay > ceroomaster
The Oppressed Peoples of Tassadaria > Comrade Tassadar
The Holy Empire of Iguana Fire > DarkCloud
The Commonwealth of Flinxland > Flinx
The Grand Duchy of Flinxtopia > Flinx
The Dyson's Sphere of Renewed Ikixe > foolish_icarus
The Dictatorship of Frankychanland > Frankychan
The Capitalist Federation of Capitalstan > GeneralTacticus
The People's Federal Republic of Centralis > GeneralTacticus
The Democratic People's Republic of Upper Arandia > GeneralTacticus
The Republic of Guardinia > Guardian
The Confederacy of H0bbes > H0bbes
The People's Republic of Jonchastan > joncha
The Kingdom of Charante > Kalius
The Constitutional Monarchy of Mettre > Kalius
The Armed Republic of Jhardine > KickTheSky
The Nomadic Peoples of Free Buddha > Lawrence of Arabia
The Holy Empire of High Heavens > Lazerus
The Dictatorship of Hive > Lazerus
The Commonwealth of Alecrast > Mr. P for Archaic
The Borderlands of Fanaan > Mr. P for Archaic
The Grand Duchy of North Spire > Mr. P for Archaic
The Most Serene Republic of Takoyaki > Mr. P for Archaic
The Commonwealth of Tarba > Mr. P for Archaic
The Principality of Wishet > Mr. P for Archaic
The Capitalist States of Karakas > Mr. President
The Democratic Republic of Northalia > Odin
The Kingdom of Emerald Cove > Paddy the Scot
The United Socialist States of NCC Pavesia > Pave
The Republic of Recliners > Platypus Rex
The The Fascist League of Auldoninna > Rasputin
The Dystopian City State of Redfern > red_jon
The Commonwealth of Alien Races > reismark
The Incorporated States of Western Apolyton > Sally
The Empire of Matevia > Sava
The Republic of North Texas > SlowwHand
The Republic of Pan Land > SlowwHand
The People's Republic of Spiffor > Spiffor
The Tooled-Up Sultanate of Al Mastif > Squeblish Nef?
The Disputed Territories of The Arch-Capitalist > Squeblish Nef?
The Evil Empire of Grumatopia > Swissy
The Rogue Nation of Navani > Thunderfire
The Most Serene Republic of Twilemen > Twilemen
The Apolyton States of Grant Park > Uncle Sparky
The People's Paradise of The United Good > Uncle Sparky
The United Socialist States of Stormseekers > Urban Ranger
The Dominion of Noosland > Urban Ranger
The Republic and Principalities of Eredron > Verto
The Community of Mithraetum > Vlad Antlerkov
The Republic of Ming Tran > xiaodave
The Dictatorship of Ashtaren
The Confederacy of Atlan freestates
The Republic of Cahors
The Republic of Dunlendor
The Dictatorship of Finchton
The Disputed Territories of Former Azan
The Colony of Limeville
The People's Republic of Marxist Chimerica
The Republic of Njegos
The Sultanate of Smith Valley
The People's Republic of The Soviet Motherland
The Federation of Those who poke Lemmy
The Republic of Zomba-Khan
The Empire of Zwan2
The National Confederation of The Sacred Baster > "Baster"
The Accidental Monolith of Etatsnoitan > "Etatsnoitan"
The Incorporated Syndicates of Eurocorp > "Etatsnoitan"
The Most Serene Republic of Zinzibar > "H0bbes' wife"
The Random and Silly State of 1337 Randomness > "Random"

	08-07-2004 09:50									#36
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I moved back into the "regular" Apolyton as well as left a nice message in New Apolyton. Read it in the NS forums.

	08-07-2004 10:01									#37
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Should have left it in "regular" Apolytion

	08-07-2004 10:04									#38
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quote: Originally posted by Flinx I lodged a complaint on the "Getting Help" page. I am sure there are rules about how many people can be booted from a region at one time (i.e. a lot less than 83!).

There's this at the FAQ:

quote: No. Region crashing by itself is a legitimate tactic to seize power, but ejecting large numbers of nations is griefing. It can be a fine line between region crashing and griefing. Players who enjoy launching invasions should take care to stay on the right side.

Not sure what the rules are on griefing, though.

	08-07-2004 10:14									#39
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If "ejecting large numbers of nations is griefing" then ejecting ALL nations is clearly against the rules.

	08-07-2004 10:20									#40
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quote: Can I steal another player's nation? No. This is fraudulent behavior and breaches the site's terms & conditions. The same applies to any attempt to impersonate another player, including attempting to hack nation or region passwords. Can I invade other people's regions? Yes. The practice of "region crashing," where a group of nations all move to a region with the aim of seizing the UN Delegate position, is part of the game. Certain groups within NationStates are particularly adroit at this, and can attack very quickly. Once I've taken over a region, can I eject everyone else? No. Region crashing by itself is a legitimate tactic to seize power, but ejecting large numbers of nations is griefing. It can be a fine line between region crashing and griefing. Players who enjoy launching invasions should take care to stay on the right side.

I think everyone should complain to a Mod via the "Getting Help" page

	08-07-2004 10:22									#41
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I complained right away. Except that we can all go back to Apolyton now, I have no idea if it had any impact.

	08-07-2004 10:28									#42
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quote: Originally posted by Urban Ranger Should have left it in "regular" Apolytion

Well, I think I left a nice referral note in regular Apolyton.

I do not like to be messed with in any way.


*Sleeping adder bites ravenous tiger!*

	08-07-2004 10:30									#43
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This is a NEW region of Apolyton founded and controlled by Kifatica who could easily boot us all again whenever he wants.

	08-07-2004 10:33									#44
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Does anybody know if UN Delegates are selected automatically? What I mean is, can the "founder" decide not to allow them?

	08-07-2004 10:33									#45
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*scratches chin*

Then, should we just give this stupid bastard a big F.U. and relocate to New Apolyton?

I think Tassadaria is a much safer bet than this unknown person?

	08-07-2004 10:34									#46
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Being the Founder of another region, I can say that the Founder has no ability to deny a Delegate their post, short of ejecting them from the region.

	08-07-2004 10:35									#47
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New Apolyton is a good back-up region, in case of more BS. I'd like to see if we can hang on to Apolyton first, though.

	08-07-2004 10:36									#48
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quote: Originally posted by GeneralTacticus Being the Founder of another region, I can say that the Founder has no ability to deny a Delegate their post, short of ejecting them from the region.

Does the delegate get his/her post with the next UN update, then?

	08-07-2004 10:37									#49
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IIRC, yes, though I'm not sure.

	08-07-2004 10:40									#50
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...and that's exactly what I did to "regular" Apolyton. My new home is New Apolyton from now on.

	08-07-2004 10:56									#51
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Just a chronology of events for those of you who tuned in late:

1. Sometime yesterday Ceroo (or whoever was controlling Ceroo's account) kicks everyone out of the Apolyton Region, password protects it, then leaves.

2. Before leaving, the factbook was changed to something like ADN PWNS ALL!!1.

3. Nations from other Regions in the Rejected Realms mention similar problems with the ADN.

4. As Apolyton remained locked and empty, Tassadaria creates the New Apolyton region for refugees to gather.

5. Kifatica (whose identity is yet unknown) somehow manages to "re-found" the Apolyton Region.

We now have members in both regions. This is good.

We still don't know if Kifatica is part of the group of losers that attacked us, or is some friendly mod or passerby who is just trying to help us.

I suggest that everyone either rejoin Apolyton or join New Apolyton. Everyone should also lodge a complaint through the link in the FAQ.

Hopefully we'll get to the bottom of this soon.

	08-07-2004 11:04									#52
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I would like to petition joncha for sainthood.

anybody else with me?

	08-07-2004 12:33									#53
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St John of Apolyton?

	08-07-2004 12:42									#54
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Jon's too damn tolerant!
BURN THE REGION-CRASHER!

	08-07-2004 12:43									#55
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Tassadaria is back in the original Apolyton. I've requested that he post his rational for moving there.

I also moved The United Good & Grant Park to Apolyton.

	08-07-2004 12:48									#56
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Kifatica has a 5 million pop. Someone founded it yesterday. Logically it was founded by the same person who password protected the region.

	08-07-2004 12:49									#57
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Yes, it seems so. But who's him? Friend or foe?

	08-07-2004 12:52									#58
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FOE!
FOE I SAY!
FOE!
BURN HIM!
BURN!
BURN!

	08-07-2004 13:03									#59
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I've e-mailed & PM'd Ceroomaster - He hasn't been at Apolyton since 18-06-2004.

I suspect whoever password protected the region is also responsable for expelling us. I'd be very suprised if it was Ceroomaster.

None the less if the worst they can do is send us to Rejected Relms, I will keep my states is Apolyton.

I've also sent the following to the Nation States Moderater -

quote: I'm sure you have already hear this, but the Apolyton region has had all 80+ of its members expelled. We suspect thar our former UN delegate (Ceroo)had his nation hijacked, however he hasn't been playing for a couple of weeks so we don't know. What we would like to know from the admin is who is playing the new founding nation of the Apolyton region and how to contact them. Since the new founding nation seems to have been created yesterday at about the same time the rest of us were ejected, we feel s/he owes us an explanation (and possibly should be expelled from Nation States). Please post your answers in the Apolyton Region message Board, the New Apolyton Region Message Board and if possible e-mail me at jimble@ecn.ab.ca Thank you, Jim C Bell

	08-07-2004 13:25									#60
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Ceroo expelled us and Ceroo password protected the region. What remains to be seen is if Ceroomaster was still in control of Ceroo, or if someone else had access to his account.

I admit that it doesn't seem likely that his account was hacked, Ceroomaster hasn't been online in a while (he basically disappeared) and this BS is also totally unlike him.

Without adequate information, I for one am reserving judgement. That said, I hope to hear from Ceroomaster and Kifatica pretty damn soon.