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Is Mithras right to demand an explanation? (Time out:0 days after 07-07-2004, 04:03)
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joncha is offline joncha
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Be more careful about who our UN Delegate is. In the last case, we should have changed delegates when Ceroo was inactive for one week, not wait three.

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Be more careful about who our UN Delegate is. In the last case, we should have changed delegates when Ceroo was inactive for one week, not wait three.


This is a good point! After an unannounced 7-10 day absence we should (at least temporarily) choose a new UN Delegate.

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do we need a UN delgate!!!!

and is this why our region was destryoed becuase ceroo left ??

or was this new player the problem..

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Yeah, let's ignore everything GT says, and treat his nations as deleted.

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no lets not ignore him !!!

but seriously do we need a UN delegate.

Is that a part of the requirments at NS.

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Nope, the Sands of Skhetmere does quite fine without one.

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No, it's not required, it's just a good idea. It gives the region a (slightly) bigger voice at the UN, and allows for the ejection of disruptive nations and such.

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Heh.
Like Auldoninna.

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I just noticed what had happened. sad, sad indeed.
we must work to punish who did this and prevent it from happening again.

maybe we should password the region, and then joining would go thru this forum. just a tought.


EDIT: Sirian Knights moved back to Apolyton.

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I would support password-protecting the region.

I know the perfect password, too.

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i think passwording would be good too, that way only people from poly can get in...

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I don't think that's a good idea. We need it to be an open region.

Besides, password protection would not have stopped what happened.

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No, but it would stop region crashers.
Actually, a password is a bad idea, as it would mean that we would get no non-'Poly members.

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What's this about on our message board?

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22 hours ago The Stoner Sanctuary of Stoned Smurfs first of all Cannabis Island was my region that i deleted. i didnt want the founder job anymore and it was seriously lacking in activity. second its Charlatans and he is in Nasicournia (home of the ADN blah). Apolyton and CI have no history or connection besides the fact that some of us moved here and to Alberta. I cant remember who you are but if your Sandra, then hello and if not then who the hell are you?

Yes this region is founder free and so is Alberta and makes them more politically free than other regions. Sorry but I let the last active ones in CI know before i killed CI.

~Pot~
22 hours ago The Stoner Sanctuary of Stoned Smurfs hmmm someone made CI again...

I shall be moving today to kill a region once again, be back after my trip! ill bring brownies for everyone!


and this seems to be the admin:

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1 day ago The Dominion of Dementor Hell oh dear god
1 day ago The Dominion of Dementor Hell Do I need authorisation to bring my nations and allies here?
1 day ago The Dominion of Dementor Hell Is the current founder in Cannabis Island friendly? Becuase if not then he should be deleted immediately! I've had nations deleted for far less than this: booting out to get a region deleted and then refounding it is the cardinal sin that sends moderators through the roof! Same with stolen accounts
1 day ago The Dominion of Dementor Hell One last question - your forum is full of concerns about having an "unknown founder" in this region - how on EARTH did you become founder-free!? I'm so horrified by all of this. I want the old cannabis island under Stoned Smurfs back
1 day ago The People's Federal Republic of Centralis Regarding Cannabis Island: I assumed it was a nation, so I searched under that. I have no idea what's been going on regarding the region.

As for becoming founder-free - I assume the mods did it. A lot of nations made complaints after we were booted, and a few days later, Kifatica had been stripped of Founder status while remaining in the region. If something similar has happened to you, I suggest you go to the mods. As you said, they don't like such behaviour. At all.
22 hours ago The Dominion of Dementor Hell Well basically I found bits and bobs saying that this region was the remnants of the region cannabis island


thankfully at least he is helpful!
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I would support password-protecting the region.

I know the perfect password, too.

banana's a bit obvious

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please delete. doublepost.

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Cloudy,

Read the whole thread. The region was killed by ceroomaster or somebody using his account by booting everybody out.

Stoned Smurfs didn't have the power to do this.

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I did read the thread.

Dale is offline Dale
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Excuse me while I interject. I think I might be able to shed some light. (I hope)

My main NS nation is The Autocratic Power of Thesh, currently residing in Nasicournia. I'm a high-ranking government advisor in Nasicournia, and an official of the ADN Intelligence Corp.

The ADN (Alliance Defense Network) is an allied group of regions acting for the protection and defense of each other. You may have heard of the group during the Francos Spain/New Pacific Order --> the Pacific, fight late last year. Recently we have been working with the North Pacific in the defense of their region from NPO sanctioned delegates UPS Rail and Great Blight to keep it in the hands of natives.

I have made a demand to the ADN Senate for an explanation of what happened to the region. However I am certain that the answer will be that it was NOT an ADN sanctioned action, but from the hands of the NPO, Ireland or USSR groups. They have been trying to discredit the ADN for a long time now.

Thanks
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Moving nations into a region in order to take over the UN delegate position and gain control is one thing. Hacking the UN delegate's nation is quite another.

ceroomaster has been a member here at apolyton.net since August 2002, has posted in many on-topic forums, and has been posting in the NationStates forum for well over a year. While it is not impossible, that seems an unlikely period of time for a spy to lurk around.

Both Ceroo and San Antonio Bay have ceased to exist.

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With only 6 votes, Centralis (GeneralTacticus) could be deposed by 8 invaders. We should look at increasing the number of delegate endorsements as a way of further protecting out region.

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Ceroo was deleted, presumably because of what happened. San Antonio Bay was deleted because it was inactive for 30 days.

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I have given my endorsement to Centralis. Everyone else must as well, or find another person to unite behind.

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As posted on the Apolyton NS board:

Okay, I've got a reply from the ADN.

This was not a sanctioned action by the ADN, nor was it done by any ADN member regions.

CrazyGirl of the Rejected Realms Army (was in the Pacific till Francos Spain banned her) reported it to the mods as the griefing was occuring. Together with your reports to the mods they acted, thus the region was reinstated to it's pre-griefing state.

The ADN has no idea who did this, and couldn't act because the hacking was directly through the UN Delegate. In ordinary invasions, the ADN moves UN-nations in to endorse a native of the region and leave when the threat is over. That's the purpose of the ADN.

That's all I can find out at this point, but one definite thing is, it wasn't the ADN that did this.

Thanks
Dale

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so still no answer to what happened.

the strangest thing is the totla disapearancve of ceroo from poly !!!!

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Excuse me while I interject. I think I might be able to shed some light. (I hope)

My main NS nation is The Autocratic Power of Thesh, currently residing in Nasicournia. I'm a high-ranking government advisor in Nasicournia, and an official of the ADN Intelligence Corp.

The ADN (Alliance Defense Network) is an allied group of regions acting for the protection and defense of each other. You may have heard of the group during the Francos Spain/New Pacific Order --> the Pacific, fight late last year. Recently we have been working with the North Pacific in the defense of their region from NPO sanctioned delegates UPS Rail and Great Blight to keep it in the hands of natives.

I have made a demand to the ADN Senate for an explanation of what happened to the region. However I am certain that the answer will be that it was NOT an ADN sanctioned action, but from the hands of the NPO, Ireland or USSR groups. They have been trying to discredit the ADN for a long time now.

Thanks
Dale


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I just posted this on the Regional Board:

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PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT:

New-Norway and his endorsers has been booted owing to indications that he was carrying out an invasion of the region, and a password has been added as temporary measure to prevent further invasions. Nations that want to move in should telegram me to request the password.

If any uninvolved nations have been caught up in the banning, my apologies; given what happened recently, I have no desire to see everyone get booted from the region again. If any of you believe I've expelled anyone wrongly, please say so.

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You tell 'em, Mr A!

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well done...


password protection whilst not perfect is the way to go ...

all the people joining apolyton region who are not in poly are more than likely suspect and should be treated accordingly . if they are trustworthy they should come hre first..

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Yes, and I think you should change the Factbook to reflect this.

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Ok, I finally managed to fit it into the Factbook entry without it becoming too long... it seems that the old one was only just under the limit. Quite annoying, but there you are.

 
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