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Pekka
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em seu burro dos pais!
Feb 2002
time: 07:35
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Right. I don't know.. I think we should look at statistics, do some kind of research to the reasons.. for example, we should know about this other minority getting constantly to these kind of actions, my guess is they're just PUNKS, youngster groups who would be a problem in the streets no matter what they're up to. My guess is these are street PUNKS, whose victims they targeted to be Jews this time, however they failed in that. I'm certain they're not good law abiding citizens who picked up on their target because they want to beat and kill every Jew in France. Most likely they're Punks, who want to beat up people, and especially Jews.
The difference is, there is a problem even without the marking. It's ironic too, being minority themselves and not wanting to integrate to France. I'm sure they will be handled like PUNKS are, and cops or anyone else is not protecting these youngsters when it comes to authorities and officials.
Of course it's a problem.. but what are you going to do, there are lot of immigrants in France, and some of them are doing these things, obviously they follow the news and take the wrong action. But they're like neo nazis in here. They just hate everyone basically, even you, the majority, white man.
I bet all my money that these punks who did this are not first timers when it comes to braking the law. What should be expected in France and these crimes, I don't know, what do you expect? I don't see these kind of articles everyday, it's a big country. I tell you this much though, Anti-semitism, as condemnable it is, is far less of hate crimes that happens inside France and every single European nation. Yet, you and lot of people seem to be mostly concerned about this only. It's natural and good to be concerned about this, I'm concerned too, but I'd say the problem is far more wider than anti-semitism.
When we have organized attacks happening that are being protected by some authority figures, then we have a problem that is major ****ing concern. If not, we're just singling out one group getting attacks, when in reality everyone is under attack on wide and regular basis, for a variety of reasons, and the people that are involved attacking Jews are most likely involved in the wider problem, with all sorts of crimes and misbehaving.
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Bereta_Eder
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tragic incident but having a puke like drag queen making a thread about it sucks even more
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Pekka
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em seu burro dos pais!
Feb 2002
time: 07:35
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Doesn't surprise me. In here no one ever helps anyone in cases like this. There was a rape in Helsinki, in a middle of the road, and people walked by. It was night, but there was people, no one helped the woman and the rapist was alone. Someone called the cops, but no one helped. The reason is too familiar, if you help, you'll get sentenced as well. Most likely even more harshly than the attacker. It's a known fact that if man rapes a woman, and another man sees it and comes and beats the rapist (not even to hospital), the man helping will get bigger sentence, it's a fact. It's sad. But if you're being beat up in here, expect no one to come helping you. They'll just walk by.
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Bereta_Eder
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in the US they kill a person like every 5 minutes...
no comparison forget it.
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Spiffor
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CPA - Evil Clone brigade
Nov 2001
time: 06:35
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quote:
Originally posted by Drake Tungsten
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Downplaying the problem? |
Chirac always trys to deflect criticism like many people on this thread have, by claiming that anti-Semitism in France is no more widespread and dangerous than hate crimes in other nations. That's BS and downplays the problem. |
False.
Chirac has very little political vision, but the country's social cohesion is one of the few problems he understands to be capital.
If anybody in the ruling team is really concerned about antisemitism (and other forms of racism, which are very destructive as well, although in a different way), it's Chirac.
Unfortunately, this government will not give money to try solving problems. The only thing that will get done is more policing, and probably the introduction of the notion of hate crime in our legislation.
The terrible integration problems that are facing our immigrants (especially second-generation Arabs and Blacks) will not be adressed, because Chirac won't have the money to build decent housing, to offer free language lessons to immigrants, to improve school results in the impoverished areas, to really act against racist discrimination at hiring...
All of these factors dramatically affect the hatred many of our poor (read: many of our Arabs and Blacks) feel about the rest of France, the Jews in particular, who have a reputation of having mucho money.
In short, Chirac may want to act, but the government isn't giving him money in order to be any efficient.
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Cruddy
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Could have been worse. They could have used those knives for more than threats.
Anyway, if she'd have been a defensive expert instead of believing "the system will protect me" the world would be free of 3 idiots.
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