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Boris Godunov
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Portland, OR
Aug 2001
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Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
Um... it was perhaps the only colony where natives were given supervisory roles over 'whites'. When you have native people in charge of Engineering, ordering white Americans what to do, I'd say that is pretty equal. |
Equality as in political equality. The Philippines didn't have autonomy for decades under U.S. rule. And as for racial equality, we have plenty of quotes from U.S. imperialists about how they were "civilizing the savages" to know what a lot of people felt about it. Whether or not that was official policy I don't know, but it's certain that Fillipinos encountered racism from the occupiers.
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Secondly, I said AFTER the revolt. |
I know you did, I was solely addressing the charicature of the revolution as a "revolt," which doesn't do it justice. It was a widespread, fullblown war in which perhaps as many as 500,000 Fillipino civilians died.
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Filipinos were not anti-American in that period of time in any way. |
The period of the revolution/revolt? Or the period of colonial rule post-revolt?
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It is only considered 'Revolution' when the revolting win. We don't call the period between 1861-65 as the Southern Revolution. |
Do a search for "Philippine Revolution." It is considered such. The revolution did involve a "win," which was the overthrow of the Spanish. The hostilities encountered by the Americans were a continuation of this war--it was the same conflict continued against American invasion.
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Lancer
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Oregon Coast, USA! or Bohol, Philippines!
Apr 1999
time: 05:33
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The guy has a wife and EIGHT kids, Arroyo is a very nice WOMAN...
So the 50 troops are getting pulled. I'm happy for the wife & kids, a tad bothered by the lack of resolve. In the end though it's the US that matters in this fight and Arroyo's decision has momemtarily become one of those molehills with asperations. The decision is only truly meaningful to those without a military or political perspective, that family.
More worrysome is what this might mean to the over 1 million Philippine OFW's.
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Rufus T. Firefly
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is one way of saying it, though I prefer "mensch"
Sep 2000
time: 07:33
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Originally posted by MichaeltheGreat
And NOOOOOOOO, we should NEVER DEAL WITH TERRORISTS - the good ol' US of A would never stoop to that, oh, um, Col. North, the messenger from the Ayatollah is here to see you, sir.
I guess all the good Amurkins who are condemning the spineless Flips should have similarly harsh opinions for the Reagan administration and Ollie North. |
How dare you make this comparison?! The Phils have no good reason for dealing with terrorists, other than to save some guy's life. We, on the other hand, had a very good reason for dealing with terrorists: we had to in order to fund our own terrorists.
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DanS
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Kickball Capital of the World
Jan 1970
time: 00:33
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And they had so much of a stake in Iraq that having their token 45-50 man force there another five weeks was worth this guy losing his life? |
Yes, because there is other negative fallout for them (and for us).
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Having just had an election is nice, but I doubt that would dissuade the opposition from using the public reaction and fallout from a video of this guy's beheading to embarass and frustrate the Arroyo government. |
And instead the Arroyo government is embarassing itself. Governments have to choose least worst policies all of the time. The costs of the Phil's Iraq policy is already sunk.
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