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Where do you stand? (Time out:0 days after 14-07-2004, 21:19)
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Mar 2002
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What is your opinion of the US of A? Using the poll above, with 1 being the most anti-US option available, 10 being the most pro-US option available, and 5 being a neutral stance, where do you stand when it comes to the United States?

I have long known many people did not like the US because they saw us as using our powers in a reckless manner, as an imperialistic power, etc. Only recently have I grown to appreciate the number of people who want to see the US lose it's power, regardless of how it behaves.

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I love my country; I hate my government.

10 for USA
0 for all the politicians

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I'd just like to see the US use it's power more effectively and intelligently.

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So you give the rivers and prairies a 10, the government a 0?

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Don't be afraid to admit it, if you are one who dislikes the US out of pure jealousy, hating the power it possesses, and that your own nation no longer holds.

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I agree with Kuci. The question is a complex one to answer.

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I'd say around 4

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I'd just like to see the US use it's power more effectively and intelligently.

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You may give certain areas a higher score than others, but this is for your overall view of the US. When someone mentions America, what is your immediate reaction? Cringe at the name of the capitalist imperialist cowbows? Meh? Jump for joy for the Defenders of Democracy(TM)

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Cowboys

America is the best country to live in

Yer all just jealous

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55


Wow. 55 is a pretty good score.

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Don't be afraid to admit it, if you are one who dislikes the US out of pure jealousy, hating the power it possesses, and that your own nation no longer holds.


I can't think of a single thing I can be jealous of the US, apart from certain great rock bands and efficiency (but the latter is not a sole plus of the US nor is the US the most efficient). On the contrary there are tons of things from there I'd never want to see in my country.

It's always amuzing that when trying to explain the hatred of a large part of the world against you and you fail you fall back on that.

Honest answer, with the best of intentions.

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Cringe at the name of the capitalist imperialist cowbows? Meh? Jump for joy for the Defenders of Democracy(TM)
both...

I'm not angry at "America" per se... I'm angry at the politicians who do things in my name. I hold leadership at such a high standard because I believe we're the best country in the world, and we should act like it. I would say "10" then for overall. I don't blame "America" for the things that people like Bush and Reagan have done, for instance. I place blame for evil acts where it should be.

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That is not how I am explaining the hatred. That is what I believe is the cause for some people, not the reason for everyone.

Nice try though.

EDIT: @ Paiktis.

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10 to the land.
9 to the people. There are some *******s, but they're everywhere. Most people are nice.
0 to the present government and its foreign policy.

Should make an average of about six, I believe.

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yeah if we're talking about americans per se the numbers change. i have found them to be great generally speaking (in real life)

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my opinion might be biased seeing as I live in the U.S. and was born here, and volunteered for the military (though mainly for career reasons )

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I'm the sort of guy who considers himself Pro-US, but from the right point of view, I'm more anti-US.

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I voted 10. But if you asked how I felt about this administration I would vote a 2. But I seperate the U.S. from George W. Bush's administration.

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I don't believe in the terms anti-US or pro-US it's just bullsh1t propaganda terms to try and make people think that it's an all or nothing question.

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I agree Mike. Everyone hates the US until some evil dictator invades their homes and starts killing their loved ones, and than it's all "hey, US! Why don't you do something about this!"... then more hate.

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If you hate democracy, just say it.

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Gave it an 8. I never give 10's so that represents a pretty solid score i.e. I'm pretty damn happy living here and wouldn't want to call any other place home, all things being equal.

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But it's a republic, not a democracy

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I agree Mike. Everyone hates the US until some evil dictator invades their homes and starts killing their loved ones, and than it's all "hey, US! Why don't you do something about this!"... then more hate.


The USA is the one who installs evil dictators in democracies.

 
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