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Aug 2001 time: 22:34
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quote: Originally posted by Agathon
AJ is fine because IIRC the Canadian audience lacked access to an Arab news broadcaster. If you hadn't noticed, Canada is a multicultural society. |
AJ /= Arab. AJ = people who have advanced warning of bombs to kill civies and turn up to film the carnage. Saying that AJ equals Arab culture is like saying Fox equals English culture, because they speak the same language.
quote: In both those cases the question is one of law, not personal or corporate preference. |
In the case of the Quebec radio station, I would say it is personal preference, since no judge has yet had a say on them, just the toadies of the CRTC. Are they judges? Do they decide our law?
quote: A society in which it is generally accepted that your boss can fire you, or it is accepted that he feels that it is his right to do so, for expressing your admiration for an opposing political view is not a society in which free speech can flourish. |
Wake up and smell the coffee. You've been living, and thriving it seems, in just such societies.
quote: And that is America, the most craven, spineless, conformist country in the Western world. Only in America can you be accused of being anti-American. When did you last hear of someone being called anti-Canadian? |
Excuse me? Was I dreaming during the last election when 30% plus of the electorate, and one out of ten provinces, had horns placed on them for supporting the 'troglodytes'?
You are so full of discarded cow cud, I wonder how you keep going sometimes. The toxins have to have an effect sometime.
quote: Ben complains about being persecuted for his political views, but the truth is that most people don't give a toss. |
Apparantly, you do. Which would be why you spent the time to spew that pile of bile on this forum, yes?
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Aug 2001 time: 00:34
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quote: Originally posted by Tuberski
It's lik a bad "Who's on First?" routine.

ACK! |
That's exactly what it was, and I was Abbott. Oy.
quote: You seem to have blown that into a craptacular frenzy of rights for plumbers. |
I never mentioned plumbers' rights, either. 
My issue wasn't about rights at all, really. It's about what makes someone "qualified," as it were, to voice an opinion about a subject. We don't seem to mind any joe schmoe here expressing his opinion on politics, but the moment a celebrity does it, the barrage of comments that such folk's opinion's don't matter. Seems like an odd double standard (This is seperate from the issue of them using someone else's property and dime to voice their opinion, though).
Celebrities speak out on all sorts of issues--even at their concerts--and people seem to be fine with it: AIDS, poverty, charities, hunger, etc. But if it's a political message, suddenly the singer is unqualified. Seems pretty arbitrary to me.
Now, wrt to Rondstadt, I do have to ask this--was it the voicing of the opinion that upset the half of the audience that walked out, or the message itself? I'd say the latter, and had she voiced the opposite opinion and called Michael Moore a jerkface who should shut up, those who had left would have stayed and cheered and probably the other half would have walked out in anger. So it just goes to show that people don't mind political commentary in their concerts, so long as they agree with it.
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Aug 2001 time: 00:34
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quote: Originally posted by SpencerH
I think the surprising thing to me is her 'fans' leaving in response to a politically motivated song. Linda Ronstadt was always a far lefty politico-type. Did it come as some kinda surprise to them? If I went to see a Joan Baez concert I wouldnt be surprised if she was 'a tad' critical of the current US administration and I sure as **** wouldnt leave over it (I'd just plug my ears between songs ). |
I asked my mom about this, as she is a big Linda Rondstadt fan and has all of her albums. Mom said it wasn't a shock to her, either--she'd been to several concerts, and Rondstadt had always expressed support for liberal causes, although she couldn't recall anything overtly political.
An interesting insight my mom had is that Rondstadt has, as of late, been decidedly lackluster in her concerts, just going through the motions, not giving encores, etc. So maybe the audience was already steamed at being treated to a mediocre show for which they paid $80 a ticket, and then the political commentary was just the straw that broke the camel's back.
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