27-10-2004 19:54									#451
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quote: Originally posted by Qilue Out of all the AC modifiers (natural, armour, dodge, defelection), only dodge AC modifiers will stack.

That was my thought too. It makes the kukri kind of useless since you will already have a deflection ring or cloak, and it's not like there are lots of rings in game you are dying to use as a warrior. Perhaps make it a dodge AC bonus?

	27-10-2004 19:56									#452
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quote: Originally posted by DaShi Hide in Plain Sight sucks if it doesn't work, which it doesn't about half to the time. I've been killed many times by relying on HiPS only to have the enemy see me and attack while standing prone. This with lag means certain death for my character. Is it supposed to work like this? My character has hide and move silently ranks in the 40s, yet even easy monsters can spot her after she hides sometimes.

It sounds like invis potions; you can take one and get hit shortly after, which can be annoying.

	27-10-2004 21:07									#453
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Shadow dancers need 10 hide, 8 move silently, 5 tumble, and the feats of Dodge and Mobility (IIRC)

	28-10-2004 00:47									#454
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quote: That was my thought too. It makes the kukri kind of useless since you will already have a deflection ring or cloak, and it's not like there are lots of rings in game you are dying to use as a warrior. Perhaps make it a dodge AC bonus?

Not possible to put dodge AC on a weapon, only on boots for some reason. Think that its freeing up ring and cloak spots for something better than AC

Invis and stealth are both defeated if the monster makes a spot check. Like all checks you can always roll a 20 and make it... oh, and standing RIGHT next to someone gives a tasty bonus on the check.

Oh... and you'd be surprised how many monsters have true seeing

Kukris... they're just as tasty as the other magic weapons available Spikie. No +10 weapons with Haste In fact... are there any Haste weapons to buy in Folderol? Hmm...

Oh... hehehehehe... you "ant farmers" are going to be in for a treat soon

-Jam

	28-10-2004 00:54									#455
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Implementation of the 3.5 experience system?

	28-10-2004 01:02									#456
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Erm... yeah, mostly. But modified, so if a level 40 partied with a level 1 kills an level 40 monster, the level 1 player doesn't get the huge XP for killing a monster 39 levels above them. It will probably cap out at 6 levels difference beyond which there will be no gain.

The aim is to reduce the benefit of "muling" to acceptable levels, to encourage low-mid level characters to get out from under the shirt tails of epic characters, because they'll get more XP without the epics about, and the epics won't gain much from having the lowbies about.

It means giving every monster a custom OnDeath script, so this is why its taking AGES.

-Jam

	28-10-2004 02:20									#457
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quote: Originally posted by Jamski quote: That was my thought too. It makes the kukri kind of useless since you will already have a deflection ring or cloak, and it's not like there are lots of rings in game you are dying to use as a warrior. Perhaps make it a dodge AC bonus? Not possible to put dodge AC on a weapon, only on boots for some reason. Think that its freeing up ring and cloak spots for something better than AC Kukris... they're just as tasty as the other magic weapons available Spikie. No +10 weapons with Haste In fact... are there any Haste weapons to buy in Folderol? Hmm... Oh... hehehehehe... you "ant farmers" are going to be in for a treat soon -Jam

Ok so no dodge. I might be more amenable to using the kukri for deflection AC, but there is no benefit to freeing up ring slots (cloak you can get improved evasion, which is nice) as there are few good rings in the game, especially for fighters. Might be worth thinking further about that.

And the +10 with haste thing was a little joke. I wasn't expecting that, but can you really claim that those weapons are even in the ballpark of the ueber greatswords/longswords/dwarven waraxes/tonnes of other examples.

They just aren't IMO.

	28-10-2004 08:11									#458
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quote: Originally posted by Jamski Erm... yeah, mostly. But modified, so if a level 40 partied with a level 1 kills an level 40 monster, the level 1 player doesn't get the huge XP for killing a monster 39 levels above them. It will probably cap out at 6 levels difference beyond which there will be no gain. The aim is to reduce the benefit of "muling" to acceptable levels, to encourage low-mid level characters to get out from under the shirt tails of epic characters, because they'll get more XP without the epics about, and the epics won't gain much from having the lowbies about. It means giving every monster a custom OnDeath script, so this is why its taking AGES. -Jam

So why is it that when you log on with a level 1 character, every epic character on the server, you suddenly become popular with all the epic characters currently playing?

Also Jamski, are you the admin of Folderol?

	28-10-2004 09:50									#459
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Is Folderol going to be updated to CEP 1.50?

And is there a graphics package I am missing?

There is a lot of the fairy grotto that is simply white.

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	28-10-2004 16:20									#460
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I presume that you have the latest patch.

Otherwise I'm not sure why the grotto was white. Did you go in the winter?

Is there any chance of a character log here like there is in the Kingdom of Whatsisname thread? I know that Spike has nicked a munchkin cookery master build but what is everyone else using? You could also post your stats with or without magic loot unless you're bothered by PvP assassins discovering that you've only got a will save of natural 20.

	28-10-2004 20:16									#461
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quote: Originally posted by Jamski Erm... yeah, mostly. But modified, so if a level 40 partied with a level 1 kills an level 40 monster, the level 1 player doesn't get the huge XP for killing a monster 39 levels above them. It will probably cap out at 6 levels difference beyond which there will be no gain. The aim is to reduce the benefit of "muling" to acceptable levels, to encourage low-mid level characters to get out from under the shirt tails of epic characters, because they'll get more XP without the epics about, and the epics won't gain much from having the lowbies about. It means giving every monster a custom OnDeath script, so this is why its taking AGES. -Jam

This is an excellent change. Did you propose this before or after I said grouping was broken on Folderol?

	28-10-2004 22:06									#462
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They haven't changed it yet, so you figure it out.....



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	28-10-2004 22:48									#463
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That's neither here nor there. Jamski may have been working on this for a long time, or he may have started when I made posts on this issue a while back. There is a precedent - the sticky death script was added after I said it would improve the game.

	29-10-2004 03:02									#464
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quote: So why is it that when you log on with a level 1 character, every epic character on the server, you suddenly become popular with all the epic characters currently playing?

That is indeed why, and the reason to develop a new custom XP script. Coming soon! (Its very complicated)

quote: Also Jamski, are you the admin of Folderol?

Nope, I build and script, two guys in CA admin and build some, and another guy does the server. Then there's a few DM drones.

quote: Is Folderol going to be updated to CEP 1.50?

Eventually, yes. But not immediatly. CEP 1.50 user will be able to use CEP 1.01 modules still, so its not an urgent issue.

quote: And is there a graphics package I am missing? There is a lot of the fairy grotto that is simply white.

You're one of the few people unlucky enough to be running 32bit textures, right? The CEP only has complete textures for 64bit (i.e. nearly everyone) texture users. Or something like that.

quote: That's neither here nor there. Jamski may have been working on this for a long time, or he may have started when I made posts on this issue a while back.

This has indeed been in development since July but there are some serious disagreements about how it should be implemented. I'll keep you up to date as it happens.

quote: And the +10 with haste thing was a little joke. I wasn't expecting that, but can you really claim that those weapons are even in the ballpark of the ueber greatswords/longswords/dwarven waraxes/tonnes of other examples.

Give me an example of each

-Jam

	29-10-2004 04:18									#465
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quote: Originally posted by Jamski You're one of the few people unlucky enough to be running 32bit textures, right? The CEP only has complete textures for 64bit (i.e. nearly everyone) texture users. Or something like that. -Jam

That's what I figured, my crappy video card.

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	29-10-2004 05:34									#466
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quote: Originally posted by DrSpike Took a look at the kukris tonight. The defence one looks cool (that is if the deflection modifier stacks with other deflection - otherwise it's pretty useless. Can you confirm this Jam). The others are pretty tame. Call me greedy but I was hoping to find the kukris of doom.

Pfft, and what would you do with your Kukris of doom against THIS:

	29-10-2004 06:00									#468
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It´s something I found in another forum, it appears that the russians are enjoying a different type of game

	29-10-2004 06:32									#469
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but he's using an american made weapon

	29-10-2004 08:11									#470
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What I find amusing about that pic, is what mega powergamer has as his (her) F9 hotkey.

	29-10-2004 12:11									#471
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sometimes it gets dark in those dungeons

	29-10-2004 16:10									#472
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That's because they're so 1337 that all of their really nifty hotkeys are on the CTRL and SHIFT function keys.
I'm very keen on hotkeys now, and have been considering keeping my spare sword in one so that I can quickly switch if I meet a monster that will be unaffected by the flaming sword I usually chop things up with.
To read this page of the thread you'd think that Spike was the evil genius behind Folderol.
It's still obvious that Jamski is the friendly smart-but-without-being-a-genius one.

	29-10-2004 19:19									#473
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But you would think that someone so mighty could afford a few hundred gold to go and buy a continual flame scroll andcast it on something.

	29-10-2004 20:13									#474
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quote: Originally posted by Qilue But you would think that someone so mighty could afford a few hundred gold to go and buy a continual flame scroll andcast it on something.

actually I've never used that spell. I guess I should? Is it that useful?

	29-10-2004 22:45									#475
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quote: Originally posted by Unspeakable Horror Pfft, and what would you do with your Kukris of doom against THIS:

Ranged weapons suck in NWN.

	29-10-2004 22:46									#476
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quote: Originally posted by Jamski Give me an example of each -Jam

The Sword o' Doom from Harris, the longsword from Heatsmiter (is there a greatsword too?) and the hammers and axes you can get from the dwarves.

	29-10-2004 22:47									#477
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quote: Originally posted by duke o' york To read this page of the thread you'd think that Spike was the evil genius behind Folderol.

Nope, but I did suggest the sticky death script.

	29-10-2004 23:55									#478
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quote: Originally posted by Dissident actually I've never used that spell. I guess I should? Is it that useful?

Ok, you know all those items with purple, pink, green light at 5, 10 and 15 metres? Continual Flame changes that to white light at 20m, non-dispellable.

You can also cast it on any item to add white light 20m radius. On folderol this raises the items requisite level by one.

	30-10-2004 00:02									#479
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And often in the process gets your characted banned.

	30-10-2004 00:28									#480
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Hehe, for illegal weapon level, yeah

Oh... I just scripted something SO FRICKING COOL. You'll see it in Folderol in about 2-3 weeks, but it is SO FRICKING COOL I'm going to mention it now.

Think "Only teh penitent man will pass"

quote: The Sword o' Doom from Harris, the longsword from Heatsmiter (is there a greatsword too?) and the hammers and axes you can get from the dwarves.

Ok, ok... I'll see what I can manage to slip in... perhaps as a miniquest... *sigh*

But you gotta earn my pandering to your every needs by doing the woodland trial first, and posting a screenshot to prove it.

-Jam