10-09-2004 01:08									#181
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Impressive.

No devastating critical? (not that it matters, if you can hit it, it's dead anyways )

	10-09-2004 03:46									#182
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Just a small problem vs undead and constructs though.....

-Jam

	10-09-2004 03:49									#183
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Oh, new Folderol stuff

quote: News from the journal: September 9, 2004 -5 new playable races! Kobold, Wemic, Brownie, Formian, and Ogre. For details, check your journal entry titled "New Playable Races". -Goblin PCs now have 8 more appearances to choose from! Also, they have darkvision all the time, and no longer need to use the darkvision ring for that power. -Improved custom race attribute adjustment system! If you are playing a custom race, your adjustments are applied more consistently, and icons will no longer appear at the top of your screen. To see what attributes are being adjusted due to subrace, look for little icons at the bottom of your character sheet. -The Folderol module will now automatically reload if it goes 25 hours without a server restart. Warnings will go out to all PCs starting half an hour before reload. Reloads take a few minutes, and PCs may stay logged in during reloads. -The Old Adventurer is no longer so free about handing out warg fangs. -Hettie now hands out shapechange paste properly. -Nymphs now get Dominate Person properly if they're level 9 or greater. -Pixy magic has changed! They now wait until 7th level to get confusion, and 9th level to get dispell magic, but both spells work much better now! -A bunch of more obscure fixes. -Due to assorted moves, job changes, a real world wedding, a broken bone, and a moving company that thought it would be funny to misplace a box of computer gear, updates to Folderol have slowed...but development continues! Additions and improvements to Folderol will continue as logistics allow, evil moving companies be darned. --Dan

Yes, Folderol is now the only server that allows Formians and Ogres as playable races

-Jam

	10-09-2004 06:10									#184
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quote: Originally posted by Jamski Just a small problem vs undead and constructs though..... -Jam

If you're traveling with a Cleric, no. I don't need to tell you how a Cleric helps with skellies and the like, and the cleric can distract the golems while you escape.

	10-09-2004 07:10									#185
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quote: Originally posted by Vlad Antlerkov Impressive. No devastating critical? (not that it matters, if you can hit it, it's dead anyways )

You inspired me to create another character with that ability I'm sure that there will be devastating criticals o'plenty

"Arnold" is primarily dexterity based, the new character "Barney Fife" has more balance between strength and dexterity at the cost of Con, Wis, and Cha. I'll post some screenies of this new one abit later, as soon as I get him hooked up with "Hatred" and "Strife"

As for undead and golems: they might take a wee bit longer to go down, but they will go down

	10-09-2004 07:58									#186
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Out of curiosity, are you using the CEP Novice to Epic Character Trainer modue? That simplifies the process of making level-40 builds, as you've no doubt figured out already.

	10-09-2004 13:49									#187
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So will there be a new enemy on folderol then? Lvl 20 Removal Man.

I played a little more of the OC last night because my accountancy tutor thought it might have been a good idea not to bother turning up to college and we got to go home two and a half hours early. short-term, but long-term.
I am about to enter the Aqueduct section of the Docks district (still on Chapter One, but have finished two and a half of the sections). The muggers in the main docks area are fun to fight, as are the bloodsailor lieutenants, who have some fairly good spells. Nothing that does me any danger mind you. I now have the components to built two more of the magic items at the smithy - a diamond and a +1 longsword, and leather armour +1 and gargoyle skull. I still need to find something to do with the fairy dust I'm carrying around.

	10-09-2004 17:43									#188
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quote: Originally posted by duke o' york So will there be a new enemy on folderol then? Lvl 20 Removal Man. I played a little more of the OC last night because my accountancy tutor thought it might have been a good idea not to bother turning up to college and we got to go home two and a half hours early. short-term, but long-term. I am about to enter the Aqueduct section of the Docks district (still on Chapter One, but have finished two and a half of the sections). The muggers in the main docks area are fun to fight, as are the bloodsailor lieutenants, who have some fairly good spells. Nothing that does me any danger mind you. I now have the components to built two more of the magic items at the smithy - a diamond and a +1 longsword, and leather armour +1 and gargoyle skull. I still need to find something to do with the fairy dust I'm carrying around.

A word of warning: the Leather Whitebone Armor, for some reason, is magic half-plate. (But the Astral Sword is nice. Just make sure to find another diamond and hold on to it.)

	10-09-2004 17:53									#189
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Well I do have a paladin character, so half-plate is fine.
I didn't realise that it wouldn't be leather armour so thanks for that. I was thinking of keeping it until the next Chapter and perhaps giving it to Tony Undergallows if I took him as a henchman. That's that plan screwed then.
I have the Comfort Armour on at the moment, and it's doing a good job. Nice and snug too.

	10-09-2004 19:55									#190
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quote: Originally posted by Vlad Antlerkov Out of curiosity, are you using the CEP Novice to Epic Character Trainer modue? That simplifies the process of making level-40 builds, as you've no doubt figured out already.

I've got 56k at the moment so I haven't downloaded the CEP yet, so I've been using the HOTU version of the Novice to Epic Trainer module. As you can probably tell, I've been having some fun with it

BTW, the only enemy that "Arnold" has had problem with, has been the prismatic dragon . I did create a sorcerer/red dragon disciple/shadowdancer that was able to take care of it fairly easilly.

	10-09-2004 20:17									#191
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that prismatic dragon is hard. I don't think I've had any character that can take him out more than twice. Although my mage took him out a few times I think. It's easier to smash the... you-know-what.

	10-09-2004 20:19									#192
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quote: Originally posted by Jamski Oh, new Folderol stuff quote: News from the journal: September 9, 2004 -5 new playable races! Kobold, Wemic, Brownie, Formian, and Ogre. For details, check your journal entry titled "New Playable Races". -Goblin PCs now have 8 more appearances to choose from! Also, they have darkvision all the time, and no longer need to use the darkvision ring for that power. -Improved custom race attribute adjustment system! If you are playing a custom race, your adjustments are applied more consistently, and icons will no longer appear at the top of your screen. To see what attributes are being adjusted due to subrace, look for little icons at the bottom of your character sheet. -The Folderol module will now automatically reload if it goes 25 hours without a server restart. Warnings will go out to all PCs starting half an hour before reload. Reloads take a few minutes, and PCs may stay logged in during reloads. -The Old Adventurer is no longer so free about handing out warg fangs. -Hettie now hands out shapechange paste properly. -Nymphs now get Dominate Person properly if they're level 9 or greater. -Pixy magic has changed! They now wait until 7th level to get confusion, and 9th level to get dispell magic, but both spells work much better now! -A bunch of more obscure fixes. -Due to assorted moves, job changes, a real world wedding, a broken bone, and a moving company that thought it would be funny to misplace a box of computer gear, updates to Folderol have slowed...but development continues! Additions and improvements to Folderol will continue as logistics allow, evil moving companies be darned. --Dan Yes, Folderol is now the only server that allows Formians and Ogres as playable races -Jam

ogres!

now I have to play. I've always wanted to be an ogre. can I be an ogre bard?

	10-09-2004 21:11									#193
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Diss, Folderol is not down, but it does seem to appear infrequently in the list. If you have a history check it, or get the IP for direct connect.

	10-09-2004 22:34									#194
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quote: Originally posted by duke o' york Well I do have a paladin character, so half-plate is fine. I didn't realise that it wouldn't be leather armour so thanks for that. I was thinking of keeping it until the next Chapter and perhaps giving it to Tony Undergallows if I took him as a henchman. That's that plan screwed then. I have the Comfort Armour on at the moment, and it's doing a good job. Nice and snug too.

However, you can't give items to henchmen in the OC unless you download some hakpak somewhere. I forget the name ( ), but it has a bunch of monster and hench AI changes.

	11-09-2004 01:01									#195
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To weigh in on the WM build debate, I think that CoT (not Child of Thor!) as a third class is just better than rogue. Fighter builds suffer from weak saves other than fortitude (especially will) and 10 CoT levels gives you +7 to all saves. In addition 22 WM levels (with 8 fighter) is neat as the WM gets an extra +1 to attack at 5, 13, 16, 19 and 22. (Also 25 and 27). Multiclassing to CoT removes BAB problems and feat problems.

Amongst builds multiclassing to rogue I'd favour 1 level, for tumble and UMD. However with the common 14 int WM builds tumble can be picked up cross class anyway.

Overall the CoT based multiclass offers more IMO.

The Kukri master build on the site is amazingly flawless. One slight possible improvement (though it's a matter of taste I'd say) I thought of is to delay power attack and cleave, which means you can take WM levels starting 3 levels sooner. On balance getting the WM bonuses 3 levels sooner seems to outweigh delaying power attack and cleave and the +1 to saves from the fourth CoT level.

	13-09-2004 03:05									#196
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Cleave is basically a free attack at low levels when monsters have such low HP that thay will go down to one blow, and decreases in usefulness as you reach higher levels. I reccommend either getting it at level 1, or leaving it VERY late and just taking it to get the nice crit feats at epic levels. From level 10+ Cleave will be triggered more and more rarely, as the monsters you face increase in Hit Points.

-Jam

	13-09-2004 03:07									#197
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My thoughts exactly. I'd prefer leaving it in the build I mentioned, since it seems worth it to get the WM levels quicker.

	13-09-2004 03:13									#198
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Its almost essential for a solo fighter to take it at level one though... it makes the difference between a stroll in the park and a reload fest...

Hmm...

Its perhaps worth suffering at level 1 in order to kick arse quicker by getting those essential 7 WM levels...

-Jam

	13-09-2004 03:19									#199
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Btw I'm level 13 now.

It's getting quite slow quicker than I thought. Also I have to say the difficulty ratings are often dire in this game. It is easy to level fast if you stumble upon foes you can despatch easily even though they are 'very difficult'. On the other hand I had to run and invisibility hide from 2 'effortless'(!!) guys in the Gnoma sewers. One would have been a struggle. If I had killed them (I didn't) I would have got 4 xp or something similar.

	13-09-2004 03:43									#200
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That's NWN for you - I figure it all balances out in the end. I have no idea how NWN calculates the challenge rating (CR) of baddies, but I guess its a pretty wild formula, and of course, different characters have different "bogy-men" and "pushovers"

Or as they say :
YMMV

-Jam

	13-09-2004 13:40									#201
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Is that the quickchat code for "Rats! Leg it!"

I noticed in the pub yesterday that the new Leeds Rugby Union shirts are manufactured by Kukri. Last week I saw someone in town wearing a tracksuit with Kukri on the back and thought that he was some kind of super martial artist. Now I know better, but I'm still not going to try to pick a fight.

I didn't get a chance to play any NWN last weekend, but may try to squeeze a little in this evening if the duchess has work to do. Fingers crossed then.

	13-09-2004 23:03									#202
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Did you ask them if it was kukri or kukuri?

	14-09-2004 12:56									#203
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No, I didn't fancy a dialogue (pronounced, of course, dialowg) with them.

	14-09-2004 13:05									#204
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Dialogoo.

	15-09-2004 03:50									#205
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Yes, DrSpike has the correct pronounciation

-Jam

	15-09-2004 16:45									#206
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Pronunciation.

	15-09-2004 16:50									#207
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quote: Originally posted by Jamski Yes, DrSpike has the correct pronounciation -Jam

Now if we were to get back on-topic () can I ask if anyone knows where there is a complete list of all the special items that the smith can make for you?
I presume it is the same on the next levels, or are the weapons and armour different? Whether they are or not, I don't just want a list of the names of the weapons, but of their effects - what is the AC of the various types of armour, and do they offer extra protection against anything?

	15-09-2004 17:08									#208
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Doesn't the smith or the shop owner give you a list if you ask?

	15-09-2004 17:12									#209
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That's why I asked. You get a list of the names of the items, and the required components, but you don't get a list of what the items actually do. I've already got the Desert Wind Scimitar, which does additional fire damage, so I don't really want to go and upgrade a +1 broadsword if the upgrade also does fire damage.

	15-09-2004 23:24									#210
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Ah I see. I had similar problems on Folderol. Some smith offered to make me some stuff using dragon corpse parts, and I didn't really know what they'd do. Also the cost of making them was the same as their resale value, or more.