03-08-2004 08:13									#61
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Maybe that, too. He is a philosophy professor.

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quote: Originally posted by Agathon Diss, you really need to eat more.

Depends on his height

I seem to recall him saying that he's on the short side.

I'm 5'11 to 5'11.5 and weigh ~70 kg (154 lbs)

	03-08-2004 08:53									#63
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no you really need to eat more .

I'm 5'8". Unless I shrunk

	03-08-2004 08:58									#64
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As I said, Canadians and Americans are weenies.

	03-08-2004 09:31									#65
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I've seen Diss in person, he needs to put on some weight.

	03-08-2004 09:47									#66
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An active person who is 40-60 pounds 'overweight' is probably healthier than a 135 pound person who sits on his butt all day. In all I'd rather be fit and lean than fit and overweight.

quote: Originally posted by Park Avenue This is just ridiculous..fatness is avoidable and not nice.

Being a racist, homophobic moron is also avoidable and not nice... what's stopping you?

	03-08-2004 10:17									#67
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Isn't this the gorup who protested the premiere of Shallow Hal in LA b/c it wasn't sensitive to fat people?

	03-08-2004 10:22									#68
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I'm "fat people" and I loved it. Was I the only one who got the hidden message? (Most criticzers are hypocrites)

	03-08-2004 11:48									#69
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FATTIES RULEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

	03-08-2004 13:08									#70
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Damn, do I hate Imperial?!?

It took me half a page to realize che wasn't saying he weighed a quarter of a metric ton.

Looking at my family history, I should be afraid of getting fat, but it's not happening this far; 22 years old, leads a pretty passive life, eats alot, should add about 5kg of pure fat to reach the US Navy's recommendations.

	03-08-2004 14:04									#71
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Chegitz, congrats on your weight loss so far and good luck on it continuing. Carbs don't have to be your enemy.

"I'd hoped to inherit my father's metabolism, and while I was young, everyone thought I had. I could put away food like it was going out of style. Alas, I inherited my mother's metabolism"

I'm sorry but this "inheriting metabolism" stuff is just junk science.

The only good predictor of your "metabolism" is your lean body (ie muscle) mass. If you have more muscle, you'll burn more calories.

	03-08-2004 14:15									#72
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What you should worried about is the body fat percentage.

All bodybuilders are overweight, but they sure aren't fat.

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quote: Originally posted by Park Avenue I'm sorry but this "inheriting metabolism" stuff is just junk science. The only good predictor of your "metabolism" is your lean body (ie muscle) mass. If you have more muscle, you'll burn more calories.

How, then, does non-junk science explain people like me, who don't exercise, eat alot, have little muscle, and less fat?

	03-08-2004 14:39									#74
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quote: Originally posted by Park Avenue I'm sorry but this "inheriting metabolism" stuff is just junk science.

PA wants to be an expert in an area where he knows very little.

	03-08-2004 14:45									#75
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How many calories do you eat each day, and what is your macronutrient breakdown (protein/fat/carb)?

Edit: and how old are you?

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quote: Originally posted by Park Avenue I'm sorry but this "inheriting metabolism" stuff is just junk science.

OK smartass. My father is 6'4" and was so skinny at 18 that he was turned down for an infantry unit when he did his national service. He only started really putting on weight after retiring from the police. My mother is 5'2" and has weighed more than she should for most of her adult life.

I'm 6'6", about 200 to 210 pounds in weight, now in my early '40's and eat and drink pretty much what I want (and don't exercise enough). If the genes that influence my metabolism and controlled my growth didn't come from my father then I'd like to hear your explanation.

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Erm, I would think the burden of proof is on you to prove why and how you can "inherit" your father's "metabolism".

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quote: Originally posted by Park Avenue This is just ridiculous..fatness is avoidable and not nice.

Not always. If your thyroid is screwy there's not a whole lot you can do.

	03-08-2004 15:27									#79
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Ah the thyroid excuse comes out now

That is involved in a miniscule amount of obesity cases.

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quote: Originally posted by Park Avenue Erm, I would think the burden of proof is on you to prove why and how you can "inherit" your father's "metabolism".

So you don't have a clue about genetic inheritance then.

Unfortunately I can't see how a genetic predisposition to trolling could work so you can't really claim that as an excuse for your posts.

	03-08-2004 16:39									#81
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quote: Originally posted by Dissident It is wrong to insist these people must feel bad, just because they happen to be fat. Being happy is more important than being thin. Even if they are deluding themselves, they will probalby recieve good health benefits from being happy (research has proven happiness can increase good health) But what I disagree with is people who insist us thin people should also believe being fat is okay.

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quote: Originally posted by Park Avenue How many calories do you eat each day, and what is your macronutrient breakdown (protein/fat/carb)?

I don't really know; 2500-3000 kcal/day, perhaps. Alot of carbohydrates.

quote: Edit: and how old are you?

22. Thinner now than in highschool, when I actually exercised a bit - probably lost a bit of both muscle and fat mass.

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Haha, I didn't notice this oxymoron in the article before

	03-08-2004 19:55									#84
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Who cares whether or not being fat is genetic? Being stupid is (partly) genetic too, that doesn't make it ok.

	03-08-2004 20:00									#85
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Whether it's genetic or not is important for whether we're to solve it via indoctrination or eugenics.

	03-08-2004 20:06									#86
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Why not both?

	03-08-2004 21:12									#87
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2500-3000 calories isn't a lot.

2k - 3.5k is a moderate amount.

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quote: Originally posted by Kuciwalker Why not both?

'Cos eugenics would be a pure waste of money if it hasn't a genetic component, and indoctrination alone won't solve the problem if it has.

	03-08-2004 21:16									#89
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quote: Originally posted by Park Avenue 2500-3000 calories isn't a lot. 2k - 3.5k is a moderate amount.

I eat more than most fat people I know.

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"I eat more than most fat people I know."

I bet you don't. Fat people tend to hide their eating.

Thin people who people think eat a lot tend just to do all their eating in public.