07-08-2004 21:35									#61
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and then I looked at his nick

	07-08-2004 23:42									#62
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With that location field the nick isn't really required, though.

	08-08-2004 00:24									#63
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So to rephrase my question so that 'some' will understand it.

I wonder if this firewall will actually work with a LAN i.e. allow us to communicate between PC's on the LAN and use printers without having to disable the ****ing firewall that prevents us from being instantly inundated by attacks from 15yr old script-kittys?

	08-08-2004 00:37									#64
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It is supposed to, yes.

That was the #1 reason people had it disabled (that and game/app compatibility), so they fixed it to get more people to use it. It's FAR more customizable now.

	08-08-2004 00:41									#65
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Here's a screenshot to demonstrate (notice File & Printer Sharing).

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	08-08-2004 00:43									#66
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Another screenshot

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	08-08-2004 00:48									#67
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Some more details:

If you click "Edit" on the File and Printer Sharing entry in the first dialog, you get the dialog on the top.

If you hit Change Scope in the edit dialog, you get the dialog on the bottom.

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	08-08-2004 00:55									#68
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quote: Originally posted by Natalinasmpf Linux sucks? No way...its far better, I don't have to constantly get patches, reboot my PC, content with games, actually immune to 99.999% of viruses....(yes, there is one or two worms for Linux, but very rare for 3% of the market)...so hah, beat that! quote: i'm not having any problems after four years with my windows xp install... it's not virus-ridden either, and doesn't have spyware, either. You probably have some, but its secretly lurking. Like the Magic Lantern virus the FBI installs on a lot of computers to "monitor" you for "safety" purposes. Guess this is one of the ways for pre-emptive strike, so they can find out whether you are a thought criminal for posting or spreading "bad thoughts" like dissesion on the net. quote: Selling an OS that works, has no virus threats in the wild and needs very little in the way of patching: Mac Mac programs usually aren't open source, have no way for kernel upgrades (non critical, but many times nice, to keep up with actually useful features).... Use Linux! Same stability, actually truly immune to most viruses since the networking component is IN the kernel, and not fragmented and cannot be hijacked, with iptables (a connection firewall, with masquerading capability) to boot..... LINUX!!!

dork

	08-08-2004 02:51									#69
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CNN.com says Windows XP SP2 cost $1,000,000,000 (1 billion dollars) to develop over 2 years.

I bet you every release Apple makes for $129 costs maybe $20,000,000, max.

Also, 1.75 million lines of code were either added or modified as part of the update.

	08-08-2004 03:33									#70
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sounds interesting... although none of the new features appeal to me. IE is a terrible spyware magnet. I used it maybe 4 or 5 times last month, and already I have 2 adware's and 1 virus that I've detected in my scan so far.

	08-08-2004 14:03									#71
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You can exclude file and printer sharing with the SP1 Firewall as well. Just set up some rules to open the ports.
The thing however is that you can't use different scopes. That's actually a cool feature!

Here is a tutorial on how to enable File & Printer Sharing in ICF1:
http://ecross.mvps.org/howto/icf.htm

But in ICF1 it's a bit pointless because you don't have the different scopes, so when you set the rules and put your computer directly on the net, these ports will be opened too.

	08-08-2004 21:06									#72
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quote: You probably have some, but its secretly lurking.

you don't know who you're talking to, bub. trust me, my computer is locked down tighter than chinese fingercuffs.

btw, natalinasmpf... what distro do you use? i'm expecting one of three answers, and if you don't use one of those three, i'll know that you're full of it.

	09-08-2004 03:40									#73
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quote: Originally posted by Asher CNN.com says Windows XP SP2 cost $1,000,000,000 (1 billion dollars) to develop over 2 years. I bet you every release Apple makes for $129 costs maybe $20,000,000, max. Also, 1.75 million lines of code were either added or modified as part of the update.

how in the world do you spend $1 billion on software! I don't believe it. Sorry.

	09-08-2004 03:47									#74
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Hmm. Thousands of highly-paid software engineers working full-time for 2 years can add up pretty fast, SP2 went through amazing amounts of testing that requires keeping thousands of variations of PCs on hand, then testing them through insane amounts of configurations...

It can add up pretty fast.

	09-08-2004 13:43									#75
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Meanwhile Asher you should have gotten a note from IBM telling you not to install SP2 as most IBM Software doesn't work with it.

At least I read it in the news today.

	09-08-2004 18:08									#76
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We use Windows 2000 at work, and WinXP SP2 works fine on my ThinkPad at home with IBM's software.

	09-08-2004 18:15									#77
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Two news items/comments related to SP2 were interesting. The firewall doesnt block outbound traffic http://blogs.zdnet.com/index.php?p=285 and intel processors dont have the necessary architechture to take advantage of some important security features.

http://blogs.zdnet.com/index.php?p=283

	10-08-2004 06:45									#78
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If you don't wanna wait for autoupdate, you can download SP2 straight from Microsoft now: http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...&displaylang=en

	10-08-2004 07:04									#79
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Ha!

	10-08-2004 07:06									#80
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Just to let you know - and I do know Asher said differently - but I have heard reports that SP2 could make your XP box useless if your copy is illegal.

Aher: any comments on that? Not that would that interest me of course.

	10-08-2004 07:11									#81
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Last I heard, it would work on pirate versions since it would be beneficial to everyone to have less unpatched systems in the world.

	10-08-2004 07:11									#82
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What would it do? Flash your bios? Install Magic Lantern on it?

Anything to prevent you from simply reinstalling the illegal copy again? (Or, Linux? )

	10-08-2004 07:14									#83
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You can install SP2 on pirated copies, MS is more concerned people are safe believe it or not...

Or you can listen to Natlinasmpf, format your drive, install Linux, cry, beg for mercy, and put Windows back on, then cry about your lost data, then curse Linus Torvalds.

	10-08-2004 07:17									#84
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natalinasmpf, you still haven't answered my distro question.

besides, there are reasons to dual boot into linux and windows.

	10-08-2004 07:36									#85
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quote: Or you can listen to Natlinasmpf, format your drive, install Linux, cry, beg for mercy, and put Windows back on, then cry about your lost data, then curse Linus Torvalds

That is, unless you know what you are doing.

	10-08-2004 07:43									#86
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It doesn't matter that you know what you're doing, when your OS doesn't know what it's doing.

	10-08-2004 07:48									#87
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quote: Originally posted by Asher It doesn't matter that you know what you're doing, when your OS doesn't know what it's doing.

	10-08-2004 09:19									#88
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quote: It doesn't matter that you know what you're doing, when your OS doesn't know what it's doing.

All the other Linux users on this board seem to be able to get it to work.

	10-08-2004 10:00									#89
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quote: Originally posted by Agathon All the other Linux users on this board seem to be able to get it to work.

Is this an example of the specatacular logic you teach your students?

Of course Linux users can get it to work, if they couldn't, they wouldn't be Linux users.

Be careful, clearly I'm qualified for your job.

	10-08-2004 10:01									#90
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quote: cry, beg for mercy, and put Windows back on, then cry about your lost data,

Actually, I never did that.

I just freed up the stupid FAT32 space taken up by Windows and converted it to Linux reiserfs. Now that I have SMAC for Linux, I no longer have to dual boot anymore.