11-08-2004 22:35									#271
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Uh, I say it one more time, I didn't say you couldn't do things and not have excuse for it. I said it happens. And that it's not forbidden. I just stated, that there are no excuses for some things, period.

If you're going to post this to some other forum, you better make it positive, like 'the best man in the world' thread or something like that, and don't make it ironic, make it like you mean it. Why? Because you owe it to us, men.

"Don't you understand we're openning the new era here? There are already people who have started trying. If you are not satisfied with the current state, don't sit and complain. Do something about it."

This sounds like oen of those 'lose 20 pounds in 2 weeks' advertisements. Really touchy, but no content.

And what do you mean negative attitude towards women? I love women. They just don't have excuses. But I love women. They can do good things, plus they fart less than men.

	11-08-2004 22:39									#272
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quote: Originally posted by Pekka If you're going to post this to some other forum, you better make it positive, like 'the best man in the world' thread or something like that, and don't make it ironic, make it like you mean it. Why? Because you owe it to us, men.

Just one correction. The last word should be "women".

	12-08-2004 00:15									#273
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quote: Originally posted by Pekka And what do you mean negative attitude towards women? I love women. They just don't have excuses. But I love women. They can do good things, plus they fart less than men.

They just hide it better. Or they do it in a group of men so no one suspects.

	12-08-2004 06:00									#274
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Women with PMS are scarey though.

	12-08-2004 06:34									#275
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here are a few helpful attachments

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	12-08-2004 06:35									#276
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a Male Brain (yup fellas checked and rechecked we got one)

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	12-08-2004 06:36									#277
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a a female Brain..imagine that they gots one 2

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	12-08-2004 17:34									#278
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I join zestfully as an ally of Pekka .

And start by saying that the "complexity derived form emotion" argument is absolute BS . Emotions are indicators , not driving forces , and they indicate the value judgements derived from the person's view of the world and are a response to the current content of the situation. Thus , anyone who is being "complex by emotion" is being driven by instinct (or fear/pressure) and nothing more . That is why Pekka wins this one .

	12-08-2004 17:36									#279
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quote: Originally posted by duke o' york Mike, go and talk to women. You'll find that not all of them are against the idea. Mind you, you'll have to deal with the consequences then, and don't say Pekka didn't warn you.

Oh don't worry, I know that. It's the consequences and amount of time a girlfriend takes up that's the problem. I'm having too much fun.

	12-08-2004 17:45									#280
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Well go and talk to groupies after gigs then.

	12-08-2004 17:49									#281
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I do. We only have one more gig. New band starting up!

	12-08-2004 18:07									#282
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But that would mean changing your sig!!

	12-08-2004 18:11									#283
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I know.

	12-08-2004 19:01									#284
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There's a lot of words, and very little information in this thread. Pekka.

For starters, you don't really understand love until you have your own kids.

Secondly, the dirty little secret about talking to women about your relationship problems: women don't want you to talk about your relationship problems.

Thirdly, the idea that women are money hungry: It's not the money y'all are worried about, it's the work needed in order to get it. Fact: Women like new things. Deal with it.

	12-08-2004 19:07									#285
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quote: Originally posted by JohnT For starters, you don't really understand love until you have your own kids.

Couldn't agree with you more, JohnT.

quote: Secondly, the dirty little secret about talking to women about your relationship problems: women don't want you to talk about your relationship problems.

Well, it's really not that hopeless. The key is the timing and the method.

quote: Thirdly, the idea that women are money hungry: It's not the money y'all are worried about, it's the work needed in order to get it. Fact: Women like new things. Deal with it.

You know, it usually is too late when they wanted that little neckless, and you try to tell her how beautiful she looks without any jewlry. You got to do the "pre-emptive strike" before that. You know. Everytime when she does not wear a neckless, tell her how heavenly she looked when she dresses simple. Make sure it sinks to her unconciousness. Make her believe you.

	12-08-2004 19:11									#286
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Psst... it's necklace.

Freudian slip?

	12-08-2004 19:16									#287
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Oops. I'm really not too familiar with those things anyways.

	12-08-2004 19:18									#288
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why do women like jewelry. I don't get it.

I never wear any jewelry. What's the point?

	12-08-2004 19:26									#289
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its all about the bling bling?

	12-08-2004 19:42									#290
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They are pretty, I think. And women like pretty stuff. That's our biological make ok? Plus the sociaty has made them that way. Ever since they are little, they are dressed prettier and receive loads of appraises for being dressed pretty. Looking well has long been perm marked to their unconciousness that it is something they should try to accomplish and they have identified that with their self value as a woman.

If you really want to change that, you need to start working from your own daughters.

	12-08-2004 19:44									#291
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When I say that women don't want for you to talk about your relationship problems, I mean that by talking about relationship problems, you're admitting to having said problems, which makes (many, not all) women feel as if they're "failing" somehow.

That's why they don't want to hear it, guys: they much prefer to hear about how they're making you happy, not unhappy.

	12-08-2004 19:49									#292
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That's why I said timing and method.

	12-08-2004 22:41									#293
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Care to enlighten us, SF?

	12-08-2004 22:58									#294
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Talk positive, boy. Don't complain, appraise.

	12-08-2004 23:07									#295
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Positive reinforcement teaches nothing if you can punish when they f up.

It's like training a dog.

	12-08-2004 23:49									#296
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JohnT, I never said I understood love, I said it don't exist. Hey if it exists for someone, good for them. I mean romantical love. Well, I suppose kids change things, I want to have kids someday, so sure, I'll have that possibility open.

	13-08-2004 00:00									#297
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Love does exist.

	13-08-2004 00:08									#298
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until I see it myself, I say it doesn't, but I'll leave the possibility open.