13-08-2004 19:09									#61
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Chest of goods(gifts)?

	13-08-2004 19:21									#62
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And the alcohol I sell is mostly legal, thankyou very much.

	13-08-2004 19:25									#63
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I still have no idea what Zero is on.

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Since when were cruisers CG, I thought they were CA's.

But while we're on the topic of ship classes...

the creation of ever larger ship sizes beyond Battleship. This especially goes for space combat.

	13-08-2004 20:00									#66
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Space combat - the fact that all of it seems to happen in atmosphere. They can't even obey friggin newtonian physics?

	13-08-2004 20:04									#67
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I think Zero was referring to console RPGs... i.e., unlock a CG cut-scene. We can all thank Square for that trend

	13-08-2004 20:05									#68
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Radar in FPS. I mean, huh? WTF?

	13-08-2004 20:12									#69
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ZargonX, you're either a genius, someone who plays too many computer games, or both. Thank you for your insight in being the only person who could work out what the hell Zero was on about.

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Unable to skip cutscenes.

Especially in anime consoles... one lasted 15 minutes. I left the room ate dinner, came back and it was still on!

*Shooters where you can shoot the guy next to a monster and the other monster still doesn't notice.

*Walking into a room, getting hurt, running out, healing, running in and repeating the process (Baldur's Gate/ Icewind Dale games) ... the enemies don't follow through doors! And they don't hear people less than one screen away!

	13-08-2004 20:18									#71
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quote: Originally posted by ZargonX I think Zero was referring to console RPGs... i.e., unlock a CG cut-scene. We can all thank Square for that trend

not just console rpgs... like MGS2 is notorious for having rediculous amounts of CGs and barely any gameplay... for ex

	13-08-2004 20:25									#72
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...think of it as a movie

	13-08-2004 20:26									#73
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thats my point. single player games have become an interactive movie. and just that.

	13-08-2004 20:36									#74
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wrt that... all the more recent Bond game have been kinda funny. They have just as much plot as the movies (hell, I'd think they WERE based on a movie if I didn't know they weren't) and only a tad more action. I don't know what that says more about, the games or the movies.

	13-08-2004 20:38									#75
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quote: Originally posted by Smiley Since when were cruisers CG, I thought they were CA's. But while we're on the topic of ship classes... the creation of ever larger ship sizes beyond Battleship. This especially goes for space combat.

CG's are guided missile cruisers. CA's were heavy ("armoured") crusier, CL's were light cruisers.

	13-08-2004 20:56									#76
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quote: Originally posted by DarkCloud *Walking into a room, getting hurt, running out, healing, running in and repeating the process (Baldur's Gate/ Icewind Dale games) ... the enemies don't follow through doors! And they don't hear people less than one screen away!

They fixed this in latter versions of the engine.

	13-08-2004 21:05									#77
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Not in Icewind Dale II.

In Chapter 1 I healed myself during the goblin raid.

and in Chapter 3 when I was fighting hte Chimera underground in the hellhole- after being repeatedly slaughtered... I decided to cheat and lured the enemies out room by room and won with little damage taken.

	13-08-2004 21:10									#78
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Well, that's the only IE game I haven't played. Fixed in BG2 though. I'm talking about the Not following through doors thing.

	13-08-2004 21:31									#79
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How the HELL is CG a cut-scene? It should be a CS, surely

-Jam

	13-08-2004 21:33									#80
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computer graphics

	13-08-2004 21:51									#81
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Or computer generated.

	13-08-2004 21:52									#82
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short for CGI?

it was defined earlier...

	13-08-2004 21:53									#83
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CGI doesn't have anything to do with graphics.

	13-08-2004 22:18									#84
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quote: Originally posted by DarkCloud Unable to skip cutscenes. Especially in anime consoles... one lasted 15 minutes. I left the room ate dinner, came back and it was still on! *Shooters where you can shoot the guy next to a monster and the other monster still doesn't notice. *Walking into a room, getting hurt, running out, healing, running in and repeating the process (Baldur's Gate/ Icewind Dale games) ... the enemies don't follow through doors! And they don't hear people less than one screen away!

are you sure you were playing an actual computer game and not watching a DVD?

	13-08-2004 22:41									#85
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quote: Originally posted by Zero thats my point. single player games have become an interactive movie. and just that.

*retching* That's why I stopped playing Final Fantasy.

	13-08-2004 22:42									#86
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quote: Originally posted by Arnelos Funny you should mention that issue. Have you ever played Homeworld? Awesome game... let's you do just that - carry your forces from one encounter to the next throughout the game.

Nope haven't played the game. It looked really good although. I didn't get my own computer until last October so it was kinda pointless to buy games before then.

What about sequels to Homeworld?

	13-08-2004 22:45									#87
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quote: Originally posted by Zero There are a few RTS campaigns that allows you to win/lose/complete different objectives. But none were like as non-linear as wing commander.

OgreBattle was nice - at least your actions counted for something. Chrono Trigger was different too.

It seems that if I wanted something truly non-linear I would have to go into a MMORPG and if I wanted a real RP, it's either that or a MUD. The problem it's so time consuming and cost money (except for MUDs).

	13-08-2004 23:26									#88
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And RoN has a non-linear campaign also... But there's basicly no story in it, except that you want to control the world

	13-08-2004 23:29									#89
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RoN has a non-linear campaign that same way that Risk has a non-linear campaign

	13-08-2004 23:36									#90
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Yep
What's wrong with Risk's campaign? I have played (or at least I've started) campaigns in most rts games I've played, but the only one I enjoyed is the campaign in RoN (which is also the only one I've actually finished... several times)

I haven't played any rts games with a non-linear campaign yet