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Dhananjoy Chatterjee, sentenced to death for raping and murdering a 14-year-old girl in Kolkata in 1990, was hanged on Saturday at 0430 IST, official sources said.

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''The execution of Dhananjoy's death sentence has duly been carried out at the scheduled time. His body has been handed over to Hindu Satkar Samity for cremation as no near relation turned up for taking his body,'' Inspector General of Police (Prisons) Joydev Chakraborty told reporters.

According to the execution procedure, the body was kept hanging for 30 minutes, before the doctors formally declared Dhananjoy dead.

Dhananjoy was sentenced to death for raping and murdering Hetal Parekh in her house in Bhowanipore on March 5, 1990.

As per his last wish, Dhananjoy was offered sweets and curd. He was also given a new shirt and pyjamas, which he
wore to the gallows.

'Dhananjoy behaved normally. He took a bath by himself inside the cell, offered prayers and walked to the gallows without any help,'' Chakraborty said.

Dhananjoy, who wrote three letters -- one each to his father, wife and two former jailmates -- was handed over one from his wife, Poornima, before his execution.

The IGP said Dhananjoy's wish to donate his eyes could not be fulfilled because his family's consent was not received.

Human rights organisation Manab Adhikar Surakha Manch and some students of the Bishop's College held a vigil outside the Alipore jail, where the execution took place.

At Dhananjoy's home in village Kuludihi, his family threw stones at jounrnalists trying to speak to them.

It rained heavily in the village all night.

The family heard about Dhananjoy's execution at 0600 am on a little transistor radio. Immediately, loud wails were heard from the house.

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Kolkata, August 14 (NNN): Dhananjoy Chatterjee, 39, sentenced to death for raping and murdering a 14-year-old girl in Kolkata in 1990, was hanged at dawn at the Alipore Central Jail in Kolkata where he had spent the last 13 years in solitary confinement.



The execution was carried out by 84-year-old hangman Nata Mullick, assisted by his 21-year-old grandson, Prabhat.

It was the country's first execution since 1995.

''The execution of Dhananjoy's death sentence has duly been carried out at the scheduled time (4:30 am). His body has been handed over to Hindu Satkar Samity for cremation as no near relation turned up for taking his body,'' Inspector General of Police (Prisons) Joydev Chakraborty told reporters.

Dhananjoy's family did not collect his body for cremation. None of the family members even attended the execution.

A convoy of police vehicles escorted the ambulance carrying his body to the crematorium, where the Hindu Satkar Samity, a local social welfare organisation had arranged for the last rites.

As per the execution procedure, the body was kept hanging for 30 minutes, before the doctors formally declared Dhananjoy dead.

As per his last wish, Dhananjoy was offered sweets and curd. He was also given a new shirt and pyjamas, which he wore to the gallows.

''Dhananjoy behaved normally. He took a bath by himself inside the cell, offered prayers and walked to the gallows without any help,'' Chakraborty said.

The IGP said Dhananjoy's wish to donate his eyes could not be fulfilled because his family's consent was not received.

Dhananjoy had asked for his kidneys and eyes to be donated after his death.

Dhananjoy, who wrote three letters -- one each to his father, wife and two former jailmates -- was handed over one from his wife, Poornima, before his execution.

Dhananjoy was sentenced to death for raping and murdering Hetal Parekh in her house in Bhowanipore on March 5, 1990.

Human rights organisation Manab Adhikar Surakha Manch and some students of the Bishop's College held a vigil outside the Alipore jail, where the execution took place.

At Dhananjoy's home in village Kuludihi, his family threw stones at jounrnalists trying to speak to them.

It rained heavily in the village all night.

The family heard about Dhananjoy's execution at 6 am on a little transistor radio. Immediately, loud wails were heard from the house.

As per sources Dhananjoy went calmly to the gallows on his birthday with a copy of Bhagavad Gita, one of Hinduism's most sacred texts.

According to prison guards Dhananjoy spent a sleepless night before the execution, and refused food.

In the days leading up to the execution Dhananjoy listened to Hindu devotional songs in his solitary cell, they said.

Demonstrators lit candles, held anti-death penalty banners and sang songs outside the prison but left at the scheduled hour of the execution.

"120 countries abolished death penalty. Why not India?" said a banner. "Abolish death penalty!" said another.

Some protesters sang folk star Pete Seeger's We Shall Overcome during their night-long vigil outside the jail. Human rights activist Sujato Bhadra told the BBC they would begin a "door to door campaign" to abolish death penalty.

President APJ Abdul Kalam rejected a plea for clemency last week and the Supreme Court rejected another appeal on Thursday.

A large police team has been deployed in Dhananjoy's village, where his family had threatened to commit mass suicide if he was executed.

Dhananjoy's lawyers had argued his conviction was based on circumstantial evidence and that DNA testing was not carried out. Most people in West Bengal support the death penalty in this case.

However, some human rights groups said a life sentence would have been a more appropriate punishment.

The death penalty is rarely carried out in India. It is usually reserved for particularly gruesome or politically sensitive cases.

The assassins of country's independence leader, Mahatma Gandhi, and former prime minister, Indira Gandhi, were among those executed in the past 50 years.

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India's Supreme Court has rejected an appeal to change the death penalty against a convicted rapist and murderer to life imprisonment.

Dhananjoy Chatterjee, convicted of raping and killing a schoolgirl 14 years ago, is to be hanged in Calcutta on Saturday.

His brother had appealed to the court to commute the sentence.

The case has gone through a prolonged legal process with President APJ Kalam turning down a clemency appeal.

Dhananjoy Chatterjee's lawyers had argued his conviction was based on circumstantial evidence and that DNA testing was not carried out.

'Inordinate delay'

They had further argued that 13 years on death row constituted an "inordinate delay" in his execution, creating a "mortal fear" that was punishment in itself.

The counsel for Dhananjoy Chatterjee, Colin Gonsalves, said the reason why President Kalam had rejected the mercy petition had also not been made clear.

The whole family has threatened to commit suicide if he is hanged.

Most people in the state support the death penalty in this case.

However, some human rights groups had opposed the hanging.

They had said a life sentence would have been a more appropriate punishment.

Dhananjoy Chatterjee was sentenced to death for raping and killing 16-year-old Hetal Parekh in 1990.

The death penalty is rarely carried out in India. It is usually reserved for particularly gruesome or politically sensitive cases.

The assassins of India's independence leader, Mahatma Gandhi, and former prime minister, Indira Gandhi, were among those executed in the past 50 years.

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Justified or not ?

I'd say justified .

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As an Arab and a Muslim I approve of there being one less Indian in the world...

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"120 countries abolished death penalty. Why not India?"


The US and Japan have the death penalty and look where we're at. Stay on the winning team, India!

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Down with rapists

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The death penalty is only justified for crimes against humanity.

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The death penality is never justified.

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****inga right justified.

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No problem with it. The scum has no place on this world. And in these cases, I don't give a damn about human rights activists.

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Amazing how human rights activists are for the rights of the murderer, rather then the victim.

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Rape is a crime against humanity.

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He should've been tortured and killed slowly in front of a public audience. Goverments should always take decisive action and clearly show their whole societies that disgusting acts like this are not tolerated.

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Amazing how human rights activists are for the rights of the murderer, rather then the victim.

Yeah, kinda like the ACLU is always supporting the side that wants to take Civil Liberties away and doesn't support protecting them.

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Amazing how human rights activists are for the rights of the murderer, rather then the victim.


The kid is already dead, I dont see how killing more people is going to solve anything, except some punitive, puerile feelign of revenge that shouldn't be the basis of justice anyway! Murdering him will solve absolutely nothing. As for using him as an example for others, firstly evidence from history shows that does not work and secondly a government shouldn't resort to that in any case because of the thoroughly dangerous precident it sets!

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Precedent?

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secondly a government shouldn't resort to that in any case because of the thoroughly dangerous precident it sets!

...what?

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Why should the state pay to support his miserable life for the next however many years? The guy raped and killed a 14 year old. What right to life does he after that? What reason should the people of India pay their tax dollars to feed and cloth him? Do you want the message "Rape and kill and get free room and board for life!" or "Rape and kill and you will die." ??

No doubt that it was justified. People like this need not be a burden on society...they forfiet their rights with their crime.

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nice troll.

i still don't think the death penalty can ever be justified. lock 'em up forever under baseline conditions, that's what i say.

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...what?


Support, demonstrate or propagate the states "morality" by opportunistically violating an individual.

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Why should the state pay to support his miserable life for the next however many years? The guy raped and killed a 14 year old. What right to life does he after that?


The state does not sanction life, it does not hold a big pot of life which it hands out piecemeal to its citizens on the basis of good behaviour! If you make the proposition of keeping him incarcerated, he is your responsibility and thus must maintain him, and if he dies as a result of your actions that is murder. If you do not want to pay, let him go or send him into exile*, but you cannot have it both ways and keep it logically sound.

*If you consider it irresponsible then incarcerate him, whereby the you have the responsibility to maintain him, or you would murder.

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What reason should the people of India pay their tax dollars to feed and cloth him?


Like I said, if the state wants to keep him locked up, punish or rehab him, then it takes the responsibility of his life unto itself, whereby if it does not want to murder it cannot let him die. If he is released from the states prison and subsequently dies, that is his concern.

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Do you want the message "Rape and kill and get free room and board for life!" or "Rape and kill and you will die." ??


I should think it is nto a message of consequence that the state should ever give out, rather a message of intent. If you want a consistent legal system you cannot do that.

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No doubt that it was justified. People like this need not be a burden on society...they forfiet their rights with their crime.


Rights are non-existent in any case, they are merely a legal recognition to the states tolerance of ones free will, which exists nonetheless. They may forfeit their rights but it is thus a subjective decision by the state which has no objective authority to act upon that and impose on him. If the state does not want him to be a burden on them, then let him go. That would be stupid of course. Better stupid tahn irresponsible and murderous.

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Support, demonstrate or propagate the states "morality" by opportunistically violating an individual.
Open all the prisons then because that is exactly what they do.

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If this ***** had done that to my daughter, he would have lived 15 years after the fact.

ACK!

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The death penalty is only justified for crimes against humanity.


This was a crime against humanity. Specifically, that 14 year old girl.

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Open all the prisons then because that is exactly what they do.


Hardly, they contain a threat to the public and hopefully will start to provide better means of rehabilitation.

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This was a crime against humanity. Specifically, that 14 year old girl.


Define humanity.

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Perhaps he should just have been allowed a few hours with the girl's family...who would have various instruments of torture at hand, just i case they wished to use them.

Not that i would be advocating people taking the law into their own hands...just saying give him the same chance as he gave his victim.

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Amazing how human rights activists are for the rights of the murderer, rather then the victim.


Huh? We are not calling for the victim to be hanged instead, yaknow.

It's just that a society, where murdering people is justified in certain circumstances, encourages the delusion that it would be okay to victimize us that way in others.

Edit: 2 commas added.

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I'm sure that post was supposed to make sense.

The way I think you meant it, those delusional others don't will kill regardless of whether or not CP is enforced.

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Why should the state pay to support his miserable life for the next however many years? The guy raped and killed a 14 year old. What right to life does he after that? What reason should the people of India pay their tax dollars to feed and cloth him? Do you want the message "Rape and kill and get free room and board for life!" or "Rape and kill and you will die." ??


If you introduce a death penalty for rape, then you are encouraging rapists to murder their victims so as to avoid conviction and get away scot free.

If you introduce a death penalty for murder, then you are encouraging murderes to murder all possible witnesses and kill any cops that come after them so that they may get way scot free.

Cornered animals bite back.

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I'm sure that post was supposed to make sense.

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I was making a slippery slope argument.

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No I mean a couple of commas would have helped it make sense.

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Why should the state pay to support his miserable life for the next however many years? The guy raped and killed a 14 year old. What right to life does he after that? What reason should the people of India pay their tax dollars to feed and cloth him? Do you want the message "Rape and kill and get free room and board for life!" or "Rape and kill and you will die." ??


If you introduce a death penalty for rape, then you are encouraging rapists to murder their victims so as to avoid conviction and get away scot free.

If you introduce a death penalty for murder, then you are encouraging murderes to murder all possible witnesses and kill any cops that come after them so that they may get way scot free.

Cornered animals bite back.




That logic extends to ANY punishment. The criminal is always encouraged to do anything possible to cover up the crime, unless doing that would make him guilty of a crime with a punishment greater enough to counter the lesser chance of being found out.

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I'm opposed to capital punishment for various reasons I can't be bothered to detail here.

In this case, I can think of so much worse punishments that would be more appealing to the ol' vindictiveness, so killing him off seems like pretty much a waste.

 
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