19-08-2004 22:45									#61
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It works on my Amiga, which I still have.

	19-08-2004 23:44									#63
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quote: Originally posted by Kassiopeia There's a fan made patch that'll make it work, that is. I'm not sure if it works with any other version then the gold edition.

This more correctly says what I meant when I said there was a Windows version.

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	19-08-2004 23:48									#64
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The most recent game I started, I found 2 UFOs already landed, should I wait for them to take off, or attack them while they are landed?

Even the tiny scouts seem to have up to 4 aliens when I attack them without shooting them.

Also, the weapons and equipment I get from battles:

I don't seem to be able to use them, should I sell all of them immediately or keep one so that it can be researched?

Does it matter?

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	20-08-2004 01:17									#65
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quote: Originally posted by DrSpike It works on my Amiga, which I still have.

I think its the hardest version, it might not have the night missions(well its version of night is no way near as dark as the PC version), but I've played the PC and PS( ) versions and they are just not as brutal as the amiga version IMHO.

Sadly my Amiga is a little sick these days, still i can play games from the floppy


@Tuberski - when going on the combat missions to kill the aliens just be as cautious and tactical as you can. Move you guys so they give each other covering fire(like you see in good war movies).

Split them in two groups if needed, then you can come at the spacecraft from two sides, or send one group to the ship and have the other move around the landscape clearing houses/barns etc. Do it like a SWAT team and you will have a decent chance

And if you get a situation where you want to move one more square to see around the corner, but wont have enough points to do anything else.......its best to choose not to move, if you want your soilders to progress and improve thier skills and rank.

And as people have mentioned you will find it helpfull to name your soilders as numbers based on their stats. I used something like:

S60 H45 G50 TU32 etc where each made reference to a particular skill(in my example S60 is for shooting ability, H45 for health, G50 grenade throwing + TU50 time units etc). The trick is trying to fit as much info in their name as you can so you can see on the battlefield whos good at what. Ok you have to update them all the time, but thats half the fun......the other half how these poor souls become numbers and loose their names

Keep one of everything untill you have researched it(in fact keep it all unless you get short on cash).

Investing in Scientists and laboritaries so you can research new techs is a vital part of the game.

	20-08-2004 06:06									#66
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quote: Originally posted by Tuberski The most recent game I started, I found 2 UFOs already landed, should I wait for them to take off, or attack them while they are landed? Even the tiny scouts seem to have up to 4 aliens when I attack them without shooting them. Also, the weapons and equipment I get from battles: I don't seem to be able to use them, should I sell all of them immediately or keep one so that it can be researched? Does it matter? ACK!

if they have already landed, you better send your Skyranger immediately! Once they take off they are nearly impossible to intercept (they disappear fast)

You may not have time to return to base to restock and resuplly. You might consider doing both missions consecutively. This will require you not to take too many losses on your first mission. But time goes real slow during missions. So take your time and be cautious.

you can't use the equipment until you research it. This is why it is important to recruit more scientists and build more labs. Start researching plasma rifles and heavy plasma. and then alien metal alloys (whatever it's called)

If you need the money, sell all of them except one. But it's a good idea to keep enough plasma rifles to equip one skyranger (in anticipation of researching it). sell any excess. For example, if you usually carry 14 men in your skyranger keep 14 rifles. Once you actually load those weapons onto the skyranger they won't come up on the sell screen.

	20-08-2004 07:31									#67
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Anticipate for the future. If the weapon you have in stock but not researched is better than the weapons your soldiers are currently using, keep them unless you need the cash. Never sell clips unless you are desperate for money or you have plenty of spare clips for a better weapon. The money you get is not worth the risk of running out of ammo later on, and these ammo clips don't take up much stores space.

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	20-08-2004 08:59									#68
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I used tanks to enter UFO's first. They are tough so it's unlikely that they'll get killed by a single shot, then I can move the soldiers in to kill of the evil aliens.


Skanky,

No, terror missions disappear after a while even if you have a plane sitting on top. IIRC, that is.

	20-08-2004 09:03									#69
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Tub,

You should equip your soldiers with autocannons. Go cautious. Use aimed shots at first. Reserve movement for opportunity fire (switch to snap shots at the end). Use a tank.

quote: Originally posted by Dissident you can't use the equipment until you research it. This is why it is important to recruit more scientists and build more labs. Start researching plasma rifles and heavy plasma. and then alien metal alloys (whatever it's called)

I don't think you can research plasma before reseaching elirium (something like that) and alien alloy.

	20-08-2004 09:27									#70
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Research lasers! They are of first priority. Researching plasma trinkets will take too long, and the projectile weapons, err, assault rifles utterly suck. Laser rifles have infinite ammo, pack a punch and are fairly accurate.

	20-08-2004 09:28									#71
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If possible, shoot the UFO's down using the 'cautious attack' option, you'll get more aliens alive to give your soldiers experience points and also there will be more goodies on the UFO to sell

	20-08-2004 10:41									#72
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quote: Originally posted by Kassiopeia Research lasers! They are of first priority. Researching plasma trinkets will take too long, and the projectile weapons, err, assault rifles utterly suck. Laser rifles have infinite ammo, pack a punch and are fairly accurate.

I never did lasers. I heard they are kind of necessary on the higher levels. but I've never had to research them. Plasma comes soon enough.

Until then I rely heavily on rocket launchers and assault rifles (I'd never use a pistol )

	20-08-2004 12:30									#73
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I always went straight from standard weapons to plasma. Laser takes too long for too little.

	20-08-2004 12:34									#74
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quote: Originally posted by Urban Ranger I used tanks to enter UFO's first. They are tough so it's unlikely that they'll get killed by a single shot, then I can move the soldiers in to kill of the evil aliens.

There are a number of ufos that you can't use that trick for. Alas.

quote: Skanky, No, terror missions disappear after a while even if you have a plane sitting on top. IIRC, that is.

Possibly. I know some other missions you can keep sitting there for an infinite time, but I also seem to recall terror missions disappearing even while targetted. They last long enough for you to wait for day though.

	20-08-2004 12:43									#75
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quote: Originally posted by Urban Ranger I don't think you can research plasma before reseaching elirium (something like that) and alien alloy.

Elerium and alien alloys exist on a seperat "tech tree" to plasma weapons, so all three can be researched in any order.

UFO Tech Tree by Nethog. Contains tech trees to many other games too.

And as a random fact, the only way to shoot down the tiniest ufo size is to equip only cannons to your interceptor. Any other weapon will destroy the ufo. As another random fact, before I discovered raising levels in the tactical map, I though the smallest ufo was an oil-well. "Gee, those aliens like hanging around that oil-well a lot".

	20-08-2004 13:37									#76
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quote: Originally posted by Skanky Burns As another random fact, before I discovered raising levels in the tactical map, I though the smallest ufo was an oil-well. "Gee, those aliens like hanging around that oil-well a lot".

That couldn't have done much for your confidence. Thinking the Skanky interceptors had finally shot something down only to find out that the target had in fact run out of gas.


As an aside - Yay! I can finally play this on XP. My original version wasn't able to run but thanks to the underdogs fulfilling that vital function of supplying repaired files, after the companies that make certain games stop living up to the obligations in their EULA's, I can play it again.
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	20-08-2004 15:19									#77
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Laser rifle and heavy laser are good cash makers. And laser rifles are good weapons.

quote: Originally posted by Skanky Burns UFO Tech Tree by Nethog. Contains tech trees to many other games too.

That tree doesn't look right. How the heck are the plasma weapons all on separate branches?

	20-08-2004 16:40									#78
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Maybe you just need a weapon to start researching it. Seems like what I remember from the game.

	20-08-2004 16:59									#79
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quote: Originally posted by child of Thor Sadly my Amiga is a little sick these days, still i can play games from the floppy

Mine only has a floppy drive.

	20-08-2004 18:37									#80
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quote: Originally posted by Skanky Burns Maybe you just need a weapon to start researching it. Seems like what I remember from the game.

I was able to start research it as soon as I recovered some rifles.

I didn't even have any of the first 3 techs discovered.

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	20-08-2004 20:39									#81
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Does that mean you know how to use the weapons but not how to make them?>

	20-08-2004 20:39									#82
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Does that mean you know how to use the weapons but not how to make them?

	20-08-2004 20:44									#83
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No, it means I can research them.

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	20-08-2004 20:45									#84
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No, it means I can research them.



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	20-08-2004 20:45									#85
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You may be able to build them, but you can definately use the weapons after researching them (and their clips). Also I think you can use weapons you have researched when captured off aliens even if you have yet to research their clips.

	20-08-2004 21:52									#86
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Don't listen to all these cheaters. There's only one way to defeat the alien aggression, and that's with large numbers of unarmored soldiers armed with Rifles and grenades.

No, not really. But when you've mastered this excellent game, that's fun too.

(actually, a friend of mine tried to win the game without using any developed weapon at all. But he failed as in the end when you go in to kill the aliens brain, you have to use something better. So he had to pick one up from a dead alien and fired a salvo to finish the game...)

	20-08-2004 22:01									#87
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quote: Originally posted by Kropotkin Don't listen to all these cheaters. There's only one way to defeat the alien aggression, and that's with large numbers of unarmored soldiers armed with Rifles and grenades. No, not really. But when you've mastered this excellent game, that's fun too. (actually, a friend of mine tried to win the game without using any developed weapon at all. But he failed as in the end when you go in to kill the aliens brain, you have to use something better. So he had to pick one up from a dead alien and fired a salvo to finish the game...)

yeah, i've heard of some sickos who play games in self-handicapped mode. someone for example is playing UFO:Afthermath (the newest game) with just 2 (!!!) soldiers!

maybe i should inform at this position, that on the medium skill level in the later game, that when i attacked alien bases, i usually lost at least 4 soldiers before managing to fire the first shots. mainly because they come from every angle and even preemptive handgranades won't do the job.
when at least one survived, you could always heal the others... but with just 2 players??? OMG!

	21-08-2004 00:05									#88
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Oh yeah, makes me think of my first City terror mission in old UFO; I was a tad scared about it as a friend that got the game before me said they were really hard. So I'm really careful and all. In the first round I've placed my 8 soldiers (don't ask me I didn't have more - I don't know) around the ramp, on their knees and covering all angles. perfect i thought and ended the turn. Then, the only thing I see is some little round, dark object that falls down from the sky. KA-BLAAM! And that was the end of that mission...

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	21-08-2004 00:10									#89
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Xcom is probably the best game ever

	21-08-2004 01:13									#90
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All this talk caused me to blow the dust off my floppy disks and re-install the game. This is still a great game, but it's hard to play in short sessions (30-60 minutes). Maybe it's just me, but it takes me a long time to play out the battlescape screens, and I keep finding myself having to abandon the game in the middle of a battle. Looks like I'll have to save this one for a business trip...