24-08-2004 17:11									#151
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And maybe the thermal lances in TFTD? That would be cool.

	24-08-2004 17:38									#152
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In Apocalypse you could use Marsec Swords to burrow your way through buildings, even solid stone foundations.

	24-08-2004 17:57									#153
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I don't remember havign swords in Apoc. Too bad I can't get it to work properly under WinXP, or I'd play it again.

	24-08-2004 18:13									#154
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They only go on market in week 3 iirc, although you can raid marsec and find them there earlier sometimes.

	24-08-2004 18:19									#155
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quote: Originally posted by Main_Brain I seem to remember you could burn holes in the UFO with Heavy Plasma Rifles too?

Heavy Plasmas are certainly not enough. Blaster bombs are though.

	24-08-2004 22:28									#156
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quote: Originally posted by child of Thor true - still they should have put something like that in for people who use the cheat codes I doubt i managed to make tubeski see the error of his ways

TubeRski!!!!!

I don't need or use cheat codes normally.

But since I don't have a paper manual handy, I'm using the money cheat to learn how to do all the things you guys already know how to do.

Once that is figured out, I'll play without it.

ACK!

	24-08-2004 22:32									#157
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Damn whippersnappers, back in the day I figured out everything by myself without a manual or a cheat code, and I enjoyed it

	24-08-2004 22:39									#158
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Cheat codes.

	24-08-2004 22:46									#159
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All of you can bite me.

Besides it's ot a vheatcode, it's hex editing.

I'm a LEET Hax0R.

Or however they do that.

ACK!

	24-08-2004 22:48									#160
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1337.

	24-08-2004 22:49									#161
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Oh yeah.

I am 1337 Hax0r.

ACK!

	24-08-2004 22:58									#162
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My favourite trick is to duplicate items. Particularly elurium.

Just have two identical save-games. Then transfer a bunch of elurium (or whatever you want duped) to another base and save in the second save slot. Now copy the transfers file from the second savegame to the first savegame and then load the first savegame. Your base still has its original stock with more of the same still in transit.

In this game I am trying not to cheat though. Although I can't stop myself from save/reloading in battles.

	24-08-2004 23:06									#163
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quote: Originally posted by Kassiopeia Damn whippersnappers, back in the day I figured out everything by myself without a manual or a cheat code, and I enjoyed it

Exacly, experience call only come with the sacrife of hundreds of rookies, civilians and soldiers proper!!

	24-08-2004 23:13									#164
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I forgot to correct my previous post. Heavy plasma is the weapon to use. It has autofire, is more powerful and there are plenty of clips around due to enemy aliens carrying them often. I researched plasma rifles early on and am having difficulty keeping clips in stock, as no alien carries the weapon anymore.

	24-08-2004 23:23									#165
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Yeah, heavy plasma's the king. It's also very accurate. Plasma rifles are a sort of midway weapon after laser and before heavy plasma.

	24-08-2004 23:56									#166
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And also, the sectoids are so cute when they carry them that you just want to eat 'em up!

	25-08-2004 04:35									#167
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quote: Originally posted by Skanky Burns I forgot to correct my previous post. Heavy plasma is the weapon to use. It has autofire, is more powerful and there are plenty of clips around due to enemy aliens carrying them often. I researched plasma rifles early on and am having difficulty keeping clips in stock, as no alien carries the weapon anymore.

that's what I've been saying all long (in my early posts in this thread)

sometimes I'll keep plasma rifles as base defense weapons for my weaklings. I always have excess soldiers around that can't fit in the skyranger/avenger. If my base is attacked the weaklings will usually take the plasma rifles, and I'll give the heavy plasma to my good guys (who usually have a decent strength and movement)

	25-08-2004 13:37									#168
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How to keep 100 engineers busy for years:

code:
                        Work  Eng  Raw            Sale Unit|Monthly|Net
      Item              Space Hrs  Material Cost Price   P R O F I T
      -----------------------------------------------------------------
      Laser Cannon       6     300    -     182K  211K  29K 6760K 4320K
      Tank/Laser Cannon 25    1200    -     500K  594K  94K 4371K 2406K
      Motion Scanner     4     220    -      34K   45K  11K 3765K 1275K
      Medikit            4     420    -      28K   46K  18K 3146K  656K
      Laser Rifle        3     400    -      2K0   36K  16K 3049K  534K
      Heavy Laser        4     700    -      32K   61K  29K 2958K  468K
      Laser Pistol       2     300    -       8K   20K  12K 2916K  376K
      Alien Alloys      10     100    -       3K    6K   3K 2343K    3K
      Fusion Ball L'cher 6     400     1A   242K  281K  39K 6836K 4396K
      Heavy Plasma       4    1000     1A   122K  171K  43K 3078K  588K
      Plasma Rifle       4     820     1A    88K  126K  32K 2787K  297K
      Blaster Launcher   5    1200     1A    9K0  144K  47K 2797K  332K
      Small Launcher     3     900     1A    78K  120K  35K 2846K  331K
      Plasma Rifle       4     820     1A    88K  126K  32K 2787K  297K
      Plasma Pistol      3     600     1A    56K   84K  21K 2586K   71K
      Personal Armor    12     800     4A    22K   54K   6K  491K     -
      UFO Navigation    18    1600     3A   150K   80K    -    -      -

Edited from http://www.xcomufo.com/usg.html
This analysis assumes a two-workshop build with the maximum number of engineers employed.

Elerium is too valuable to waste converting it into money, so any items that use it have been excluded.
Items using AAs have been grouped together due to the additional need to micromanage supplies while keeping manufacturing going. The items have been reordered in terms of profit per month.

It seems I will be going back to manufacturing medikits while beginning research into laser weaponry. For profit.

	25-08-2004 14:28									#169
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You net more with Motion Scanners though.

	25-08-2004 14:50									#170
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Edit: Read my next post...

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	25-08-2004 15:10									#171
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quote: Originally posted by Tuberski TubeRski!!!!! I don't need or use cheat codes normally. But since I don't have a paper manual handy, I'm using the money cheat to learn how to do all the things you guys already know how to do. Once that is figured out, I'll play without it. ACK!

sorry Tuberski! I really hate it when that happens, even when an honest typo - and i think your right to play around with the cheat untill you get the hang of it(in your situation). It can be a very unforgiving game for sure

Good luck with it and i'm glad once you've learned the ropes you will ditch the cheat for cash thing.

If you need money badly simply keep building a few medpacks(i think they had the best build cost to sell cost ratio? ) to sell on the open market.

	25-08-2004 16:32									#172
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My Next Post:

Finally got it to work in a roundabout fashion.

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	25-08-2004 17:05									#173
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I started playing TFTD again last night. It's so hard on superhuman difficulty. Half a dozen aliens on the smallest ship, and AI smart enough to throw grenades ect. Nevermind those buggers that hide in small crevices and corners and shoot you in the back as you walk past them.

I started two games and wiped out on my first missions each time.

	25-08-2004 17:11									#174
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I found TFTD way, way too hard on Beginner. Let alone Superhuman. Passenger ships were a massive pain in the neck, with lots of levels, gangways, tunnels and openings for an alien to snipe one of my team members.

	25-08-2004 17:18									#175
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That triggered a memory: I just now remembered I HAD played TFTD before.

Passenger ships

	25-08-2004 17:23									#176
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quote: Originally posted by Urban Ranger You net more with Motion Scanners though.

Not worth researching now for the slightly higher net, as opposed to going after the laser tech tree. Were I starting again, however, valid point.

	25-08-2004 17:27									#177
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The two-parter missions in TFTD were a real killer. In a cargo ship I usually had only about four operatives alive or standing by the time I had cleared up the upper portion of the ship.

	25-08-2004 17:31									#178
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I just hated the bug where aliens captured in the first half of those missions disappeared, as did all the capturable items in that map. This killed the tech tree as certain alien types were not capturable - only ever appearing in the first half of maps.

Not that I hold a grudge against the game for wasting my time. Not at all.

	29-08-2004 06:12									#179
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Bump.

Finish this equation:

Floater soldier carrying Alien grenade inside central elevator shaft of Battleship...

+

Another Floater soldier carrying another Alien grenade inside central elevator shaft of Battleship one level up from previous Floater soldier...

+

Yet another Floater soldier carrying yet another Alien grenade inside central elevator shaft of Battleship also one level up from first Floater soldier...

+

A bunch of Floaters and Reapers in the immediate area inside Battleship who haven't even gotten outside yet...

+

One well-aimed Heavy Plasma shot as first Floater soldier tries to exit central elevator shaft of Battleship...

= ?





Give up?

A very short, but entertaining mission.

	29-08-2004 06:28									#180
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I wish I had luck like that. When I land at a battleship, I almost always raid the ship because I can't be bothered to sit and wait at the elevator for god knows how many turns, even if it would be shooting fish in a barrel.