21-08-2004 01:41									#91
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........just save the game in the battlescape mode, on the amiga it was in one of the options icons i think? I used to have to do this a lot - those 'creeping around hunting down that last snake man' missions could last a while!

	21-08-2004 01:48									#92
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Once or twice I've found them hiding in my own craft. I hated it when they did that.

	21-08-2004 01:57									#93
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*smacks forehead*
Oh yeah, there it is, under the question mark button. It *has* been a long time since I played this game!

	21-08-2004 02:49									#94
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quote: Originally posted by Kropotkin Once or twice I've found them hiding in my own craft. I hated it when they did that.

that first time through the game - all those little surprises, your right it could be uncomfortable at times - but so damn good.

@ DaveV - cool, now you can just get into it again

I'll take some small comfort knowing someone is having fun with this game. My PC version seems to have gone walkabout, and my amiga version suffers from a sick amiga.

Its funny that it never got the sequels it deserved.........very much a missed opportunity

	21-08-2004 08:49									#95
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quote: Originally posted by child of Thor that first time through the game - all those little surprises, your right it could be uncomfortable at times - but so damn good. @ DaveV - cool, now you can just get into it again I'll take some small comfort knowing someone is having fun with this game. My PC version seems to have gone walkabout, and my amiga version suffers from a sick amiga. Its funny that it never got the sequels it deserved.........very much a missed opportunity

I told you in my first post where to get it.

ACK!

	21-08-2004 09:39									#96
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quote: Originally posted by Kropotkin (actually, a friend of mine tried to win the game without using any developed weapon at all. But he failed as in the end when you go in to kill the aliens brain, you have to use something better. So he had to pick one up from a dead alien and fired a salvo to finish the game...)

Yeah right. I like to see him take down an alien battleship without advanced weapons.

	21-08-2004 15:01									#97
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It does sound a little fishy.

	21-08-2004 15:30									#98
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Seriously, he used german 88s to take down the ships!!

	22-08-2004 01:24									#99
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Well, I have gone as far as cheating, so that I can learn how to play the game.

Let's just say I have plenty of money.

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	22-08-2004 02:18									#100
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Ah yes the cheats.......well watch out for the brain suckers, especially on night missions

	22-08-2004 02:47									#101
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Is Plasma defence a step up from Personal armor?

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	22-08-2004 03:08									#102
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Well, if you could get one of your soldiers to carry it into combat, then yes, it would... I guess...

	22-08-2004 03:25									#103
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Plasma Defence is a base facility that fires at a UFO trying to bring in troops to assault your own base. When they come at you, they'll come in force, and IIRC you need two to three PD's to shrug off a battleship.

	22-08-2004 04:30									#104
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quote: Originally posted by Urban Ranger Yeah right. I like to see him take down an alien battleship without advanced weapons.

you don't actually have to shoot them down. just intercept them with the skyranger when it's on the ground. they will have a full compliment of soldiers, but they can be taken out.

	22-08-2004 04:41									#105
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How about capturing aliens? Smoke grenades and stun rods?

	22-08-2004 06:37									#106
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beats me

and you'd have to build base facilities like alien containment. Using standard interceptors with stinger missiles seems impossible. And you have to use the Avenger to get to mars.

I see no reason to penalize yourself like that. Rifles just suck. autocannons are alright. I don't like the other weapon (heavy cannon I think it is). But I do like rocket launchers for my strong guys.

	22-08-2004 09:20									#107
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quote: Originally posted by child of Thor Ah yes the cheats.......well watch out for the brain suckers, especially on night missions

Wrong game

quote: Originally posted by Dissident you don't actually have to shoot them down. just intercept them with the skyranger when it's on the ground. they will have a full compliment of soldiers, but they can be taken out.

You could do that (even though I much rather use a Lightning for this ).

What if it doesn't feel like landing?

quote: Originally posted by Kassiopeia How about capturing aliens? Smoke grenades and stun rods?

These are okay, though I think stun bombs will be available.

	22-08-2004 13:05									#108
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quote: Originally posted by Urban Ranger These are okay, though I think stun bombs will be available.

Yes, I know, but I was referring to this insane challenge Diss was talking about, whether or not stun bombs are considered basic weapons. Edit: Err, Kropotkin was talking about.

	22-08-2004 13:18									#109
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To clarify, the fellow I mentioned only followed the selfimposed handicap when he was on a mission. he did build alien containements and such. I can't really remember how he captured aliens, but if i remember correctly, you sometimes could get them without really trying. If it for example was unconscious when the mission ended. otherwise, he just used autocannons and such. He didn't really use rifles at all.

But perhaps, winning with just pistols and stunrods would be a real challange. Maybe even go Red Army-style and only have pistols and rifles for the first half of the soldiers in the avenger.

	22-08-2004 16:10									#110
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Yeah autocannons are really nifty weapons before alien tech.

* Skanky Burns adds Kropotkin to his ignore list
I don't have time for these types of challenges, and don't know if I can resist trying.

	22-08-2004 16:54									#111
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I'm gonna have to head to bed, but before I do I want to ask something. I've tried to get the "fanmade patch" for this game that allows it to work with XP, but for the life of me Site-Which-We-Do-Not-Name doesn't want to let me download. It just loads a useless page that mentions ufogold.zip and nothing more. I've tried both the regular option and the restrictive firewall option, yet neither bears fruit. Help me please.

	22-08-2004 17:20									#112
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	22-08-2004 18:07									#113
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Ohh this thread brings back many good (and frustrating) memories .. Especially loved the way the story came together as you went along.

Not sure if its already been said, but I got around the funding issue by manufacturing laser guns, and selling them .. I think it was laser pistols which were brought the most income ??? not sure now .. but you could make a fair bonus on it

	22-08-2004 18:36									#114
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Overall, selling stuff is a good way of earning money that's easily missed by a newbie. As times go by your stock will fill up with the corpses of dead aliens and obsolete weapons. Sell those that you don't need (no need to have more than one, not 60, sectoid corpse afterall) for a good profit, and love a free market system that can't get enough.

	22-08-2004 19:12									#115
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Damn it, i just gave the old game a try again. You bastards!!!

* Adds Skanky Burns to ignore list*

	22-08-2004 20:23									#116
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Selling crap is the foremost way to make money. You start to rake in ridiculous amounts of corpses and above all heavy plasmas. You only need about 30 to equip two Skyranger or one Avenger team, the rest can be sold for over 100k bucks. Never needed to resort to the travelling scientists exploit.

	22-08-2004 20:43									#117
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Not after awhile, when you have engineers cranking them weapons by the boatload. Though, initially, the swapping personnel trick really helps.

	23-08-2004 01:57									#118
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Just finished my first Terror mission (yeah Bush, there were such a thing as terror before 11/9!), and came to think of another tip. Don't take cover behind Gas-pumps...

	23-08-2004 02:43									#119
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quote: Originally posted by The Viceroy Ohh this thread brings back many good (and frustrating) memories .. Especially loved the way the story came together as you went along. Not sure if its already been said, but I got around the funding issue by manufacturing laser guns, and selling them .. I think it was laser pistols which were brought the most income ??? not sure now .. but you could make a fair bonus on it

I believe it was the Laser cannons that offered the most economical production/profit tradeoff. I made a fortune by cornering the market on large volume discount laser cannons.

And another tip, don't go for grenades. Go for heavy duty explosives! They take down buildings AND any aliens in them.

	23-08-2004 07:08									#120
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Explosive packs have their uses. You probably can't throw them like grenades, though.