24-08-2004 03:14									#91
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quote: Originally posted by Apocalypse more stuff

Dude, you seriously don't get it. What I'm referring to uses school as an example only. I don't talk about high school to anyone. I get along with people easily IRL. It's behind me. I'm not emotional about it. But I'd be lying if I said it didn't suck. Cuz it did.

You really have no idea what I, che, or LOTM is talking about, and you haven't answered any of my questions. Although you did answer my question about you're attitude being self-serving. Whatever.

	24-08-2004 03:16									#92
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quote: Originally posted by JohnT Yeah, but I can if you want me to.

thats quite alright, really

	24-08-2004 03:18									#93
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quote: Originally posted by JohnT That really isn't an argument that's going to win Che over, you know.

	24-08-2004 03:20									#94
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quote: Originally posted by Theben Dude, you seriously don't get it. What I'm referring to uses school as an example only. I don't talk about high school to anyone. I get along with people easily IRL. It's behind me. I'm not emotional about it. But I'd be lying if I said it didn't suck. Cuz it did. You really have no idea what I, che, or LOTM is talking about, and you haven't answered any of my questions. Although you did answer my question about you're attitude being self-serving. Whatever.

You don't even quote me and you are the one saying I'm not really responding to you?

	24-08-2004 03:21									#95
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I wonder if anybody has done the following studies:

1. Track political affiliation based upon aggression levels.
2. Track political affiliation based upon overall view of HS experiences (especially in relations to other kids).

	24-08-2004 03:26									#96
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quote: Originally posted by JohnT I wonder if anybody has done the following studies: 1. Track political affiliation based upon aggression levels. 2. Track political affiliation based upon overall view of HS experiences (especially in relations to other kids).

They have. Don't have them bookmarked or anything. They said it was really hard to come to any conclusions though sinec it was rather subjective. It's like telling a guy to measure his own dick. It said losers generally = socialist though.

	24-08-2004 03:26									#97
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quote: Originally posted by Apocalypse See, bullying led to team building. A lot of corporations pay big bucks to outside groups to get their employees to learn these skills.

it was a small school so there was not much bullying actually. The hierarchy of who was toughest, smartest etc got established pretty early . For most would be bullies, there would be no point since everyone "knew" the ranking.

This one bully was an exception and grew up to be a first-class ass. He had no friends. His only redeeming quality was an older sister with great attributes and a reputation for giving the best darned (insert sex act).

Unfortunately she was about 5 years older than me and remained just a bit of a fantasy

	24-08-2004 03:32									#98
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quote: Originally posted by Apocalypse They have. Don't have them bookmarked or anything. They said it was really hard to come to any conclusions though sinec it was rather subjective. It's like telling a guy to measure his own dick. It said losers generally = socialist though.

Then again who's the loser . The enemies at school I had were all mindless, or no brainless fools whose vocabulary was the equivalent of the one of a 9-year old. They acted and talked like rightwing fascists and whenever an intelligent question was asked they responded with degrading people, racism, sexism, homobashing etc... It was impossible to have somewhat of a decent conversation with them.

Perhaps they did have the muscles, but in my dictionary they're the losers, not me .

	24-08-2004 03:34									#99
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Small schools and small towns, everyone knew everyones business. You could hardly ever keep secret who you were seeing and they'd usually know if you was doin' the nasty since various parking spots could only be accessed by certain routes so if the little red truck was seen, it must be flub with (hot little blond cheerleader)

Had its downsides though-- earlier that year while single I tried to get with one of the local girls with a certain reputation and I had my younger sister tell me off for it before I can do anything- someone had heard me offer little miss a ride home and her acceptance.

	24-08-2004 03:36									#100
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quote: Originally posted by Apocalypse You don't even quote me and you are the one saying I'm not really responding to you?

Jeez, you don't have to get all emotional about it. It over, move on.

	24-08-2004 03:48									#101
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quote: Originally posted by Theben Jeez, you don't have to get all emotional about it. It over, move on.

Try again. That comment would still get you no respect.

	24-08-2004 03:54									#102
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I don't know what your problem is. Quit being whiny.

	24-08-2004 03:58									#103
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I was a nerd/reject left alone

	24-08-2004 04:02									#104
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I do have one regret from high school and that was I never got with a particular girl. But she hung out mainly with the druggie crowd and thats never been my thing.

her status was interesting as she was "popular" in the sense that she always had a guy but she was "poison" in that she never really had a boyfriend and a lot of other girls didn't like her much.

	24-08-2004 04:09									#105
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Apocalypse, I think you are wrong. When I was in HS, I teased people a lot. Sometimes so much that they would just walk out of class crying. And you know what? I feel bad about it.
Why? Because some people dont have the strenght or will to fight back. Some people have fast mouths and some dont. That's why when have stand up comics and librariens.
In no way I think I ''help'' these people like you say. Even more so, I think I hurt them and drained their self confidence.

Dont try to say you helped.


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	24-08-2004 04:14									#106
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They would walk out of class crying. It sounds like they started out weak.

	24-08-2004 04:19									#107
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Its natural that there was a variation in responses. Some kids learned to fight back. Others retreated even further. In neither case did the bully help, but I have always thought that people get overwrought blaming other sfor their emotional problems. The bully didn't make someone weak. He picked on the weak which is in many ways worse

	24-08-2004 04:19									#108
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Bullying is a method to weed out the weak from the herd. Of this I'm sure.

I resisted. They can't bring me down I said. And they didn't.

but I voted left alone. I wasn't physically bullied since I was in elementary school.

	24-08-2004 04:22									#109
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quote: Originally posted by Flubber I do have one regret from high school and that was I never got with a particular girl. But she hung out mainly with the druggie crowd and thats never been my thing. her status was interesting as she was "popular" in the sense that she always had a guy but she was "poison" in that she never really had a boyfriend and a lot of other girls didn't like her much.

I have a similar regret. She used to call me for help with her homework.

I was never sure if she was just using me for my brain and getting me to essentually do her homework for her. We shared U.S. history class. I had to explain it to her. But I wonder if she was actually interested in me. She was asian, and asian women tend to be less forward, so that may be why she did not come on to me. I never made a move on her. I should have.

oh well.

	24-08-2004 04:34									#110
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quote: Originally posted by Dissident I have a similar regret. She used to call me for help with her homework. I was never sure if she was just using me for my brain and getting me to essentually do her homework for her. We shared U.S. history class. I had to explain it to her. But I wonder if she was actually interested in me. She was asian, and asian women tend to be less forward, so that may be why she did not come on to me. I never made a move on her. I should have. oh well.

Too bad there-- I have a regret wrt a women when I was in college. She used to give me a ride home from parties and stuff but I never made a move. Years later as friends she admitted that she had wanted me to. it was shortly after totaly missing out with her that I discovered that I did have balls and adopted a more assertive approach toward women that served me well.

The girl in high school .. . if I could have gotten with her, it would not have been a dating thing-- her scene was to be with the guys getting some hash-- get semi to totally stoned and then the sex would ensue.

I didn't actually like her all that much but she was hot hot hot and her talents were legendary.

	24-08-2004 04:40									#111
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@Apocalypse: I wish I could do to you what I did to quite a few bullies in elementary school; punch you in the face. I might be "weak" in your terms, but you're sick. Seriously sick.

	24-08-2004 04:46									#112
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When I started school, I was the littlest kid in my whole class, and got picked on mercilessly.

'round about the fifth grade, I hit the mother of all growth spurts, and came back just under six feet tall. The farm work helped tone those muscles.

I remember a couple kids tried with me once after that.

One got the snot beat out of him and the other got tossed into the dumpster out back.

After that, everybody was content to let me alone, and I was content to let them let me alone.

-=Vel=-

	24-08-2004 04:49									#113
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Well, nice for you. I had several people who would not cease attack me no matter how many times I beat the crap out of them.

	24-08-2004 04:51									#114
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quote: Originally posted by Last Conformist Well, nice for you. I had several people who would not cease attack me no matter how many times I beat the crap out of them.

well thats just stupid

My 15 month old stops doing things that hurt himself after a couple of times.

In my case, a group pounding on the bully once was enough. he then probably went on to other folks but he never bothered us again

	24-08-2004 04:54									#115
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quote: @Apocalypse: I wish I could do to you what I did to quite a few bullies in elementary school; punch you in the face. I might be "weak" in your terms, but you're sick. Seriously sick.

I never did anything just for fun. It was largely about someone else just being stupid somehow and me reacting.

quote: Originally posted by Last Conformist Well, nice for you. I had several people who would not cease attack me no matter how many times I beat the crap out of them.

You must not have done it enough to get your point across.

	24-08-2004 05:05									#116
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speaking of classmates.com does anyone pay for that?

this thread got me looking at that .

But you have to pay just to post on the bulletin board. . You know me, I don't like to pay for anything.

	24-08-2004 05:41									#117
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* Trip is disappointed in how many people are falling for Apoc's trolls.

	24-08-2004 05:51									#118
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quote: Originally posted by Apocalypse They would walk out of class crying. It sounds like they started out weak.

Exactly my point.

If your 6'5'' and weight 300 pounds and pick on 5' guys, you're a pussie.

Samething.


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	24-08-2004 06:09									#119
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quote: Originally posted by Trip * Trip is disappointed in how many people are falling for Apoc's trolls.

you should be encouraged.

what good is a troll if no one falls for it

But I was serious above.

These sort of tactics are used in the military all the time (in the navy is was mostly physical- though in the marine corp it was often physical). It is used to weed out the weak.

we had this one guy in our division. He was a moron with no common sense and/or mechanical ability. He had no business being on a navy ship in deployment. I personally did not terrorize him- that's not my style to mess with people. but other guys did. The guy eventually went psycho and went UA (unathorized absence). And he ended up in some psych ward I think. They eventually booted him out of the navy.

	24-08-2004 06:14									#120
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i hung out with a bunch of really intelligent people (were talking like 1550+ SAT, national merit scholars, etc etc) and i was the dimwitted blue collared on of the group. basically it was 7 of us in our set and no one ****ed with us. i guess thats just part of living in the bay area