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I'm presuming LoA's silence means he went.

From the looks of things on Gameday, Manny's and Cookie Monster's HRs looked like absolute jacks. Sadly, Gameday doesn't say what deck they landed in...

(Zito's an extreme flyballer, but started off this game with a ton of groundouts, then it balances out with two home runs. Funny, that.)

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...Swisher's average has fallen almost 200 points tonight.

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Roberts just got caught stealing... third base. And then Bellhorn singled on the next pitch.

Edit: Cookie Monster's up with runners on 1st and 2nd. Yays.

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...this was supposed to be a rant about Tito plugging in Embree to face The Lion of Alameda County (who's been hitting lefties really well this season), except the difference between Chavez's performance against lefties (338/437/554) and righties (250/396/534) is pretty much created entirely by batting average. Really, he's just been hitting more singles off lefties.

...and it doesn't matter, as Chavez gets out anyways.

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Well, that was one long sac bunt by Bellhorn.

Based loaded, one out. Cookie Monster at the plate.

edit: ORTIZZLE!

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Yikes...I don't think that you could've dreamed of that happening. Manny dives for a ball in left, the ump says he catches it, but the replay shows it slightly bounced into his glove. The A's bullpen said he didn't catch it, as did the livid Kotsay, who was batting. The A's get nothing.

Next inning, Kotsay catches a ball in right field, but the ump said it bounced into the glove (which was the right call). Kotsay points at him and says "that's two". The fans throw **** into left field.

You could not have dreamed of that happening one after the other.

Sox now lead 8-3.

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It's over. 8-3.

Edit: Did I miss when Mendoza became effective again or something?

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WHAT A GAME ! LETS GO RED SOX!!!

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From the looks of things on Gameday, Manny's and Cookie Monster's HRs looked like absolute jacks. Sadly, Gameday doesn't say what deck they landed in...



ortiz crushed it, manny's looked like a fly ball out. he hit it right off the end of the bat, no pop sound , the trajectory it took was straight up, and it was opposite field, but somehow it just barely made it over the wall, which is very high in that section.

mendoza was nasty. we're gonna need him and use him down the last three weeks of the season. oakland fans threw crap onto the field in the 8th and delayed the game.

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Ah, so that's what Gameday was babbling about.

Just as a curiosity, how would you set the postseason roster?

Here's how I'd do it. Mostly obvious.

C: Varitek
1B: Millar
2B: Bellhorn
SS: Cabrera
3B: Mueller
LF: Manny
CF: Damon
RF: Kapler
DH: Ortiz

Backup Catcher: Mirabelli
Infielders: Pokey (Gutierrez if Pokey is unavailable), Eyechart, Youkilis
Outfielders: Nixon, Roberts

SP: Pedro, Schilling, Wake, Arroyo/Lowe
RP: Foulke, Timlin, Embree, Mendoza, Malaska, loser of Arroyo/Lowe

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And for laughs, award predictions:

AL MVP: Manny Ramirez or Gary Sheffield
NL MVP: Adrian Beltre (not that I think he should win it; Bonds is far better, and IMHO Rolen and Pujols are also ahead.)
AL CYA: Johan Santana
NL CYA: Jason Schmidt or Roger Clemens (depending on whether the Giants or Astros win the Wild Card, mostly; if neither, then probably Gagne again. )
AL RoY: Bobby Crosby. (Yes, I know Lew Ford is having a better year, but Lew Ford isn't a rookie. )
NL RoY: Khalil Greene
AL MoY: Alan Trammell or Buck Showalter
NL MoY: Bobby Cox. No way around it, this one's inevitable.(Though I'd imagine Leo Mazzone might get some votes here and there. Okay, okay, and LaRussa, too.)

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i hope you dont mean varitek bats leadoff!
if trot doesnt come back, and youkilis does come back

with lowe pitching
1. Damon CF
2. Bellhorn 2B
3. Manny LF
4. Ortiz DH
5. Varitek C
6. Millar RF
7. Mueller 3B
8. Cabrera SS
9. Mientkieveciasdjaoscndsofcz 1B

with youkilis in the lineup

1. Damon CF
2. Youkilis 3B
3. Manny LF
4. Ortiz DH
5. Varitek C
6. Millar RF
7. Mueller 2B
8. Cabrera SS
9. Mientkwisdoiosicz

i'd like to see mientkeivekajdoaiscz as a fulltime player, but we have just too many players out there that can play too many positions (we'll prolly cut down on our depth in the offseason. depth is good, but too much depth isnt) so if trot comes back, that means kapler and roberts will most likely sit, and then you have a problem at 1B between millar and mintkiewiwdjocz. and if youkilis comes back, then you have to fit youkilis/mueller/bellhorn in two poisitions.

i think if we play minnesota in the first round, the SP and order should be

Pedro, Wake, Schilling, Lowe

the gyus in relief should be

mendoza, timlin, embree, myers, williamson, adams, foulke.

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i hate bobby crosby - not only do all A's fans (and theres a lot of them here) salivate all over the place when you say his name, they also are to the man willing to say that he's the best rookie of the year, which he's not. Kevin Youkilis is the best rookie of the year, with better stats, and the only reason he doesnt play more is because we already have a 3B. plus crosby runs his mouth about what lowe did last year in ALDS and HE WASNT EVEN THERE.

what a scrub.

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Crosby has over twice as many at bats as Youklis. I'm sorry, but the Rookie of the Year shouldn't go to someone who only has 178 at bats. Youklis may be the better player, but Crosby played much more and thus deserves the award this year, no contest.

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Crosby has over twice as many at bats as Youklis. I'm sorry, but the Rookie of the Year shouldn't go to someone who only has 178 at bats. Youklis may be the better player, but Crosby played much more and thus deserves the award this year, no contest.


Actually, doing such a thing wouldn't be without precedent. In 1959, Willie McCovey won the NL award with only 192 AB (in which he hit 354/429/656).

To be honest, I wouldn't be surprised if Lew Ford wins it; not that many people actually know that he's ineligible due to service time, and his numbers are far better than Crosby's.

(Apparently, BB-ref just finished adding Top 10 Comparable Players to a given player by year. Cool.)

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Actually, doing such a thing wouldn't be without precedent. In 1959, Willie McCovey won the NL award with only 192 AB (in which he hit 354/429/656).


I assume it was because the rest of the field was severly lacking. But if you look at the numbers this year, you'll find Youklis has ~.60 advantage in OPS, which isn't that great to negate the difference number of games played. Also, Crosby does happen to be a superior defensive player in a very important defensive position.

I think the combo of not overwhelming advantages in offensive stats for Youklis, combined with the much lower number of ABs, and the much greater defense by Crosby, swings it for Crosby easily.

That doesn't mean Youklis won't be the better player... he just didn't get enough time in with the big boys this year.

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BPro updated their Playoff Odds report... which has Boston as more likely to win the AL East than the Yankees.

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is anyone subscribed to it? also on espn right now (well its just ending) they had the pete rose controversy. i think he should be in the hall of fame.

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and what bp is saying is that the AL east is a coin flip, but yanks and red sox are nearly guaranteed to go to playoffs. good enough to bet on it.

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http://www.baseballprospectus.com/s...91a48754373354e

yankees are still +8 in the adjusted standings page. bad news for them. red sox are -6, good news for us. it means that we will have all the breaks going for us now, since the rest of the season they have been going against us.

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giambi took 'non performanc enhacing steoirds' that lead to his cancer

http://mlb.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/mlb/n...s_mlb&fext=.jsp


Way to actually read the article you posted.

Here is what it says:

quote:
While I understand the continuing speculation surrounding the details of my medical condition, I continue to believe that it is a private matter," Giambi said in a statement released by the club. "I appreciate the fact that the media has a job to do, but my focus now is on returning and contributing to this team."

Citing "three Major League sources," the Daily News laid out two possible reasons for Giambi's own reluctance to divulge details of his condition: the circumstantial, not documented, link between pituitary tumors and anabolic steroids, and the irony that his cure includes treatment with a medicinal steroid.

According to the newspaper, Giambi's "treatment, which has been approved by Major League Baseball, involves a form of steroids that are not performance-enhancing."

"Giambi is taking corticosteroids," the paper's report continues, which "break down tissue and are used as anti-inflammatories for a number of medical conditions."


He's taking the "non-performance enhancing" steroids NOW, to TREAT the condition.

The allegation that the condition could have arisen from performance enhancing steroids, however, is still there.

I'm not saying Giambi wasn't on 'roids. I AM saying you need to work on your reading comprehension.

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Oh, and the Red Sox are absolutely on fire lately. The Yankees are actually playing well again, thank goodness (or rather thank El Duque), and yet the Sox just keep up the pressure.

This one's going to come down to the six remaining head-to-head games. Sweet!

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Btw, any of you BoSox fans *****ing about the Nomar trade now?

If Nomar was dealt before the season, the Sox would be by far in 1st. He was a cancer who was cut off from the team and they've returned to the way they were before he came back from the IR.

Told you it was a good deal... mostly for the psychological reasons. Theo does it again!

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AFAIK, neither I nor LoA or Mono *****ed about the Nomar trade...we were just shocked that it took place.

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emperor - that last or should be a "nor". Just to be precise.

And yeah, I was kind of sad, in a sentimental way, but I never claimed that it would lead to our team's ruin at all...

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**** off

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Actually, IIRC, LoA was very pissed that you didn't get more. Though one example about how much you DID get is Derek Lowe's numbers since the deal. With an upgraded defense, he's been 6-1 since the deal and looks more like the guy who won 20 games a few years back.

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yeah i was. sox are flying higher than a kite. we going to the bronx where the bronx bombers are about to get bombed. back to 2.5 games back, if we keep it like this, we will win the division. we will catch the yankees.

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Yanks and O's tied 6-6

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why is cabrera batting 2nd? has he been tearing it up lately?

 
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