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"My god, it's full of peas..."
Jul 2002
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This is some pretty slimey sh*t here:  
http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS...arts/index.html
Delegates mock Kerry with 'purple heart' bandages
Democrats: GOP 'mocking our troops'
Tuesday, August 31, 2004 Posted: 1:42 AM EDT (0542 GMT)
NEW YORK (CNN) -- Delegates to the Republican National Convention found a new way to take a jab at Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry's Vietnam service record: by sporting adhesive bandages with small purple hearts on them.
Morton Blackwell, a prominent Virginia delegate, has been handing out the heart-covered bandages to delegates, who've worn them on their chins, cheeks, the backs of their hands and other places.
Blackwell is president of the Leadership Institute, a nonpartisan educational foundation he founded in 1979. According to its Web site, the institute prepares conservatives for success in politics, government and the news media.
Kerry was a decorated Navy officer in Vietnam who became a prominent antiwar activist upon his return home. A group calling itself "Swift Boat Veterans for Truth" has accused Kerry of lying to win combat decorations in Vietnam, including the Bronze Star and the Purple Heart.
And last week, former Sen. Bob Dole, the party's 1996 presidential nominee, brought more attention to the allegations when he told CNN's Wolf Blitzer, "With three Purple Hearts, he never bled that I know of. And they're all superficial wounds."
Dole apologized for the remark the next day after a personal call from Kerry, saying that before taping the interview, "maybe I should have stayed longer for brunch somewhere."
Donna Cain, an Oregon delegate, wore a purple heart bandage on her wrist.
"Probably a lot of people are handing them out because they are very symbolic," she said. Kerry, she said, "has made the war that he served in far more important than his recent records of the last 18 to 20 years."
Kerry's campaign has denounced the allegations as a smear.
Other veterans and military records from the time have contradicted the swift boat group's allegations.
Kerry's campaign quickly responded to the purple heart bandages, saying the Republicans are "mocking our troops."
"The smear continues on the floor of Madison Square Garden," a Kerry campaign statement trumpeted.
But Cain said she didn't see the bandage as a jab at U.S. troops who have been wounded in combat -- more than 6,000 of them so far in the U.S.-led war in Iraq.
"It is not in any way defaming of them, because I know people who have received Purple Hearts and I know that they're not boasting about their war record. They're proud of their serving their country. And, I mean, I just met a woman who lost her husband yesterday in Iraq. And there's a whole entirely different mood."
Pat Peel, the delegate singled out in the Democratic response, promised that there would be many more purple heart bandages on the floor Tuesday.
Dole was sharply criticized by Kerry backers when he questioned whether Kerry's wounds were severe enough to merit a Purple Heart. He said Monday night that "you can't control delegates."
"I'm certain there's no possible connection" between the Bush campaign or Republican leaders and the bandages sported Monday night, he said.
"The last thing President Bush or anybody in the campaign wants to do is stir this up."
The military makes no distinction about the severity of a wound when setting the standards for a Purple Heart.
Although he was grievously wounded in a later battle, Dole wrote in a 1988 biography that the first of his two Purple Hearts was the kind of wound the Army treated "with Mercurochrome and a Purple Heart."
Kerry has called on President Bush to denounce the swift boat veterans' ads. Bush has responded by calling for an end to all attack ads by independent groups but has not specifically criticized the anti-Kerry commercials.
Kerry accuses the group -- funded largely by Republican donors from Bush's home state of Texas -- of being a front group for the president's re-election campaign.
Republicans say Bush has been unfairly attacked by Kerry allies who have questioned whether Bush completed his Vietnam-era service in the Air National Guard. Kerry's spokesmen say their candidate has disavowed those ads.
CNN's Dan Lothian holds one of the "purple heart" bandages.
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topeka, kansas,USA
May 1999
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Patroklos - quote:
All the Bush commercials I have seen simple tell you Kerry's Senete voting record, and if that is deemed negative then Kerry shoudl have voted differently. Now you can lean on that simple information for whatever point of view you want to convey, but the basic facts given were correct. Bush's opionion of those facts is exactly what I want to hear. And visa vers for Kerry. |
Just one example of a Bush ad that didn't convey the truth - the ad claims Kerry missed %76 of intelligence committee hearings in the year following 9/11. That was "calculated" by how many times he spoke at a hearing, not attendance. The same ad claims he missed almost all intel hearings during the next year...
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At least Bush's own adds have something to do with current problems, ie mostly taxes. EVERY Kerry commercial I have seen, originating from Kerry, deals with Vietnam. |
I can't debate what you've seen even if it conflicts with reality.
Ogie - quote:
You speak of the Bush camapaign in total not the individual candidates. Pleae use the appropriate references to either campaign or candidate. |
Are you suggesting he doesn't even have control over his own campaign?
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Bush has (prolly for propiety sake and because he can via bully pulpit) been the modicom of restraint in comparison to the plethora of smear attacks done not only by the Dem party (surrogates and affiliates) but the individual candidates. |
Like how he showed restraint when running against McCain? Yes, he showed restraint - he restrained himself from demanding an accounting of the smear merchants who were spreading lies about McCain so Bush could win. We were treated to months of Bush ads claiming Kerry wanted to raise taxes blah blah blah and only later did we find out that the people tabulating those statistics were using bogus numbers. Kerry claims he wants to eliminate the recent tax cut for wealthier people, but Bush doesn't want to deal with that issue so we see him go after Kerry on a non-issue.
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When given contradictory statements one ususally then looks at context. Contextually speaking he supported strongly Nixon and as such would have never implicated the crossing over into Cambodia. |
So he would have lied? He told Nixon he was in Cambodia, along the border. This conversation was caught on Nixon's taping system, the same system that helped bring Nixon down. This was not a conversation in front of reporters who would tell Americans that O'Neill admitted being in Cambodia...
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You prefer to think his inappropriate phrasology to be a Fruedian slip, I on the other hand give him enough credit as a well spoken indivdual who more than held his own in debates against Kerry to be merely defining/refining his previous misspoken statement |
Actually, I'm the one giving him credit for being a well-spoken individual, he said he was in Cambodia and now he says he never was. The only thing that's changed is his comment about being in Cambodia was made in private to Nixon and now his story has changed since it has been made public...
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No thats a reflection of what others on this board think of him. |
Can you reflect on what you think of him instead of reflecting for others? 
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If I have not covered this before it's expressly forbidden for two reasons IMO.
1) exactly what you espoused payoff or hush money.
2) because interrogating nonadvocacy 527 groups allows competitive intel (not to mention potential harassment and disruption of their right to free speach) that is to be prohibitted by the nature of the 527/candidate relationship. Heck if competetive intel weren't of such major import than why was Watergate such a big deal? |
Do you have evidence Kerry offered the guy money to stop the ads? And (2) is not coordinating, it's called opposition. You wouldn't describe Bush spies obtaining intel on the Kerry campaign as "coordinating" with Kerry, so why would Kerry be coordinating with SBVT by obtaining information about them? Kerry called a guy he thought would stand up for him and found out the guy was part of SBVT so Kerry asked him why. You think that's "coordinating"?
DRose - quote:
Drug cartels are in the business of producing, transporting, and selling illegal harmful drugs and violently killing people who get in their way. |
They are in the business of supplying a much sought after product. They can't help it if blue noses made it illegal thereby creating the mess called prohibition.
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Lincoln
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Originally posted by DRoseDARs
Delegates to the Republican National Convention found a new way to take a jab at Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry's Vietnam service record: by sporting adhesive bandages with small purple hearts on them.
...Kerry's campaign quickly responded to the purple heart bandages, saying the Republicans are "mocking our troops."
"The smear continues on the floor of Madison Square Garden," a Kerry campaign statement trumpeted.
...Kerry has called on President Bush to denounce the swift boat veterans' ads.... |
Are there really people out there who seriously want this overgrown crybaby, sniveling, whiner (and those are his good points) to be president?
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Lincoln
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At least be original, Arrian.
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