08-09-2004 07:23									#31
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quote: Originally posted by The Emperor Fabulous I hope he prays that terrorists don't strike at all But then...he IS Dick Cheney, and there are plenty of other oil-producing countries that need "liberating"

	08-09-2004 07:35									#32
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For you liberal. 3 Arab men are in front of your house taking measurement and drawing a sketch of your neigherhood, what do you do? According to you liberal, take no action because they are just making a drawing and have every right to make a drawing. For us Conservative, we call the police, take pictures of them with a gun in hand and maybe shoot the SOBs if they do anything stupid.

	08-09-2004 07:59									#33
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quote: Originally posted by Joseph For us Conservative, we call the police, take pictures of them with a gun in hand and maybe shoot the SOBs if they do anything stupid.

And hopefully, someone witnesses, calls police on you, police find evidence that says they were sketch drawing, and gets you 25-to-life.

	08-09-2004 07:59									#34
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Iran, as I understand it, doesn't have as much oil as China, which is somewhat in need of "liberating".

	08-09-2004 08:03									#35
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quote: Originally posted by Joseph For you liberal. 3 Arab men are in front of your house taking measurement and drawing a sketch of your neigherhood, what do you do? According to you liberal, take no action because they are just making a drawing and have every right to make a drawing. For us Conservative, we call the police, take pictures of them with a gun in hand and maybe shoot the SOBs if they do anything stupid.

And while I may be continuing to feed the troll, I would actually call my local authorities. In fact, I would do it if they were Chinese, Black, or White, because if someone I don't know is taking measurements and sketches of my house, I'm gonna be suspicious anyways. But I'm not gonna just shoot them out of spite.

Your blind conservativism is

	08-09-2004 08:13									#36
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quote: Originally posted by Joseph For you liberal. 3 Arab men are in front of your house taking measurement and drawing a sketch of your neigherhood, what do you do? According to you liberal, take no action because they are just making a drawing and have every right to make a drawing. For us Conservative, we call the police, take pictures of them with a gun in hand and maybe shoot the SOBs if they do anything stupid.

If a liberal saw Osama, he would give him a flower and say peace... turn around, start to walk away and get shot.

	08-09-2004 08:17									#37
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Actually, I know for a fact that a lot of liberals would not notice the 3 Arab men, because they would be far too busy protesting the current administration downtown.

On the other hand, the conservatives wouldn't notice the 3 Arab men, because they would be getting red in the face at hearing the latest liberal outrage being told them by Hannity or some other suitable rightist talk show host.

	08-09-2004 08:18									#38
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quote: If a liberal saw Osama, he would give him a flower and say peace... turn around, start to walk away and get shot.

Wrong.

If a liberal saw Osama, he would probably not realize it was him.

If a conservative saw Osama, he would probably not realize it was him.

They'd only realize it was Osama if they were looking for him.

	08-09-2004 08:19									#39
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quote: Originally posted by Q Cubed Actually, I know for a fact that a lot of liberals would not notice the 3 Arab men, because they would be far too busy protesting the current administration downtown. On the other hand, the conservatives wouldn't notice the 3 Arab men, because they would be getting red in the face at hearing the latest liberal outrage being told them by Hannity or some other suitable rightist talk show host.

This was the best post of entire thread.

	08-09-2004 08:36									#40
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quote: Originally posted by Q Cubed quote: If a liberal saw Osama, he would give him a flower and say peace... turn around, start to walk away and get shot. Wrong. If a liberal saw Osama, he would probably not realize it was him. If a conservative saw Osama, he would probably not realize it was him. They'd only realize it was Osama if they were looking for him.

I'm saying if they did realize it was him. If the liberal realized it was him, he would try to talk about peace and doves. While the conservative would do the same, and then keep talking.. until he shoots the hidden silenced 9MM under his coat at Osama.

	08-09-2004 08:52									#41
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quote: I'm saying if they did realize it was him. If the liberal realized it was him, he would try to talk about peace and doves. While the conservative would do the same, and then keep talking.. until he shoots the hidden silenced 9MM under his coat at Osama.

that's not true either.

the liberal would say hi, have a conversation, maybe ask why, then suckerpunch the bastard.

the conservative would just beat the **** out of him.

at least that's the case if they're both americans.

it's just different bedside manners, you fool.

	08-09-2004 09:06									#42
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quote: Originally posted by Q Cubed the liberal would say hi, have a conversation, maybe ask why, then suckerpunch the bastard. the conservative would just beat the **** out of him. at least that's the case if they're both americans. it's just different bedside manners, you fool.

Wrong again. Liberals are too weak to punch.

	08-09-2004 09:09									#43
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At least Cheney is engaging in a debate over the issue, unlike Kerry who just goes "HOW DARE YOU QUESTION MY PATRIOTISM!? I WON THREE PURPLE HEARTS!" whenever Kerry's defense positions/votes come under scrutiny.

	08-09-2004 09:14									#44
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Gee, Shi, isn't that a little like the Administration responding with "How dare you question this Administration!" every time someone confronts them?

The difference is, the answers to the questions about Kerry don't really matter.

	08-09-2004 09:15									#45
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quote: Originally posted by Ted Striker Cheney has hijacked 9/11 enough already

Don't you think it's kinda funny that they're running on presiding over American's worst intelligence and security failure in history. We live in topsey-turvey world, where ignorance is strength and war is peace.

My god, the only thing wrong with 1984 is its crudity. We live in the same world, but it's so much better done.

	08-09-2004 09:16									#46
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quote: Originally posted by Rufus T. Firefly Gee, Shi, isn't that a little like the Administration responding with "How dare you question this Administration!" every time someone confronts them? The difference is, the answers to the questions about Kerry don't really matter.

The adminstration talks about issues today, not a war that happened thirty years ago like Kerry who can't seem to drop it. It is funny, McCain who was in a POW camp for a few years doesn't talk about the Vietnam war as much as Kerry.

	08-09-2004 09:19									#47
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shi, you know that throwing around jabs is not debating

	08-09-2004 09:19									#48
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quote: Originally posted by Giancarlo The adminstration talks about issues today, not a war that happened thirty years ago like Kerry who can't seem to drop it. It is funny, McCain who was in a POW camp for a few years doesn't talk about the Vietnam war as much as Kerry.

McCain talked about it quite a bit when he was running for president. And Bush orchestrated a smear campaign to discredit McCain's heroism, too.

	08-09-2004 09:21									#49
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quote: Originally posted by Rufus T. Firefly McCain talked about it quite a bit when he was running for president. And Bush orchestrated a smear campaign to discredit McCain's heroism, too.

But he says he doesn't talk about it much anymore. And he certainly did not talk about as much as Kerry did (whose 4 months were probably mostly spent in Saigon).

	08-09-2004 09:29									#50
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If McCain we're running for president against a Dem who weaseled out of service in Nam, do you think he'd be talking about Nam much? My guess is that he'd never shut up about it, just the same way that Bob Dole's '96 campaign was coated in WWII nostalgia designed to distinguish him from that year's draft-dodging prez.

That's just politics. But the difference between Clinton and Bush is that Clinton never questioned Dole's service or patriotism, whereas the Bushies have had the audacity to orchestrate smears against at least three men with distiguished war records (Kerry, McCain, and max Cleland). That's right: the difference between Clinton and Bush is that Clinton has some shred of decency left.

	08-09-2004 09:32									#51
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All of that aside, people should just drop it and talk about the issues. I even have problems with the people who wrote that book on Kerry and Kerry himself for making it a political campaign slogan.

	08-09-2004 09:43									#52
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quote: Originally posted by Giancarlo Wrong again. Liberals are too weak to punch.

God damn...you need to get a grip on reality.

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	08-09-2004 14:34									#53
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quote: Originally posted by Giancarlo Wrong again. Liberals are too weak to punch.

I thought you were a fascist, but obviously by your own criteria you are a liberal, perhaps even a pinko.

	08-09-2004 15:10									#54
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it's funny since it are the republicans who can't seem to shut up about it ...

so, what exactely has the current administration done right ?

domestic :
huge deficit
tax cuts for the rich
reduced personal freedom
still not recovered from the economic collapse caused by a year of warmongering talks (with respect to the stockmarkets : uncertainty kills...)

foreign policy
alienated all but one traditional allies
war in two countries (i never understood why iraq and not afghanistan had to be the example of how an arab country can be converted to a reasonable state of freedom and democracy * wink oil wink *)
a bunch of third world countries put on the axis of evil who now have to do everything they can to get nuclear weapons in order to ensure their survival

etc ...

yeah, they made america and the world a better,safer and more hopeful place...

	08-09-2004 15:13									#55
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quote: Originally posted by dannubis it's funny since it are the republicans who can't seem to shut up about it ... so, what exactely has the current administration done right ? domestic : huge deficit tax cuts for the rich reduced personal freedom still not recovered from the economic collapse caused by a year of warmongering talks (with respect to the stockmarkets : uncertainty kills...) foreign policy alienated all but one traditional allies war in two countries (i never understood why iraq and not afghanistan had to be the example of how an arab country can be converted to a reasonable state of freedom and democracy * wink oil wink *) a bunch of third world countries put on the axis of evil who now have to do everything they can to get nuclear weapons in order to ensure their survival etc ... yeah, they made america and the world a better,safer and more hopeful place...

yak yak yak.. yak yak.. and yak yak yak. Do you have anything other to say other then the same regurgiated falsehoods? Or do you want to restate them again in yet another poorly written post?

	08-09-2004 15:14									#56
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you could provide some arguments ...

btw, english is only my fourth language, boy

	08-09-2004 15:16									#57
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quote: Originally posted by dannubis you could provide some arguments ... btw, english is only my fourth language, boy

Arguments against the same old thing I hear every single day by the Kerry campaign? No thanks. Been there, done that. I just get a reply that is basically restating what was originally said.

	08-09-2004 15:17									#58
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what have they done right ?

1 example please ?

	08-09-2004 15:19									#59
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quote: Originally posted by dannubis what have they done right ? 1 example please ?

Helped the economy gain tons of jobs, liberated Iraq, gave taxes to the middle and upper classes, jump started the economy as a whole, shall I go on? Liberated Afghanistan.. got Muammoar Qadafi to give up all of his weapons... got Sudan to come to the table and talk over the region of Dafur...

	08-09-2004 15:24									#60
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not quite up there...

as far as the economy concerns you're still recovering...
you 'liberated' iraq, whatever that means for the average iraqi
you liberated afghanisthan, backed by the entire international community : so ok, this point i will give you, half a thing done right.
in sudan nothing happens, in lybia nothing happens ...

you'll have to do better than this, boy