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Ted Striker
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United States of America
Jan 1970
time: 21:23
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Alright, I hope Bush loses and Kerry wins
I don't have high hopes for Kerry, only that he does a Clintonesque type of leadership and doesn't screw anything up.
But I'd like to see John McCain get back into it in 2008.
If I recall, Kerry has had some past failed presidential bids himself.
The Republicans don't really have any stars to put forward, unless the Guvenator somehow gets an Amendment passed, which in that case he would PW3N the entire election. Democrats aren't doing good either, but then again, people like George Bush and Clinton seemed to have come out of nowhere.
By the way, there was a study at Univeristy of Maryland, in which if the world voted, it was like 75% Kerry, 25% Bush.
Would you vote for McCain? Or maybe he is better as the man who tempers Bush's misguided sword?
Powell is a non factor after he was used and disgraced before the UN by lying to the world about the weapons of mass evaporation.
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Rufus T. Firefly
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is one way of saying it, though I prefer "mensch"
Sep 2000
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Originally posted by Ted Striker
Why don't you think McCain would run?
And I think we have had enough of the Bush family |
Well, I've certainly had enough of the Bushes. But if George wins, there's going to be a kind of "Cult of Bush" in the party that will help Jeb; if W loses, there will be a revenge scenario to play out (just as W was Daddy's revenge on Clinton/Gore).
As for McCain, he might run but won't get nominated because his own party doesn't actually like him very much: he breaks ranks, he criticizes the president, he believes in campaign finance reform, and he just generally thinks of himself. That's very bad for any party politician, but especially bad for a GOP politician; the GOP values loyalty and unswerving obedience above almost anything (this is why the GOP is more disciplined, and more successful, that the Dems). They may trot McCain out now to appeal to swing voters, but they'll go back to not trusting him just as soon as the elections over.
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Rufus T. Firefly
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is one way of saying it, though I prefer "mensch"
Sep 2000
time: 07:23
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Originally posted by The Mad Monk
Giuliani and McCain weren't just speaking at the Republican convention.
They were auditioning. |
On McCain, see my comment above.
On Rudy: the man lost his Senate race to Hilary Clinton, fer Crissake. His leadership during and after 9/11 was remakable, but it's going to be a distant memory by 2008 -- at which time he'll have been out of office for six years, and never held any national or even statewide office. That's not a prescription for electoral success, and never has been. Add in Rudy's cancer, his adultery during his first marriage, his loose cannon of a first wife, and his own volatile temperment, and I just don't see his candidacy going anywhere.
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Ted Striker
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United States of America
Jan 1970
time: 21:23
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quote:
Originally posted by The Mad Monk
BTW, what happened to make you flip the script, player?
I don't remember you putting the hate on Bush earlier. |
Here is my timeline:
1) Alright so Bush seemed pretty dope so he had my support going into office
2) After getting in, he comes out and says that there are going to be supluses for the next 10 years and so let's drop a big tax cut on everyone. It doesn't matter if these projections are wrong in the future (which they were 6 months after it was passed), let's base these tax cuts on them anyway. And, let's give some nice breaks to rich people too. Okay, this just seems like common sense, you can't plan out for 10 years, stop spending money you don't have. BIG RED FLAG. And this one is often forgotten.
3) 9/11 happens. Bush kicks Taliban azz hard so Ted is back on his side and extremley impressed with his handling of the situation. Guantonimo and the silly Axis of Evil speech are forgiven since the War on Terror seems to be going well.
4) IRAQ
Man don't even get me started. If Bush had just said something to the effect of, "Saddam is a dumbass and we are going to kill him," now that would have worked out alright for me. So of course, playing the deal out through the UN, using suave to get the job done, not been such a unilateral ass, that would have been alright.
Ancyrean made a post in the Iran thread about how Iran should have been handled, through the UN. We would have gotten Saddam removed eventually, but without so much policital cost, and with all the backing we needed, if we had handled Iraq in the same we he is proposing to deal with Iran.
But key events that majorly piss me off:
- Taking advantage of Colin Powell, the greatest statesman in the entire world, and USING the guy to lie to the whole world, was disgraceful. Powell's influence is now marginal, his character, ruined. You don't waste your best guy like that, and on both a moral and practical level it's disgraceful
- Turning around and BLAMING the intelligence community for poor intelligence on Iraq, when in fact they were coercing them to provide information they did not have
- USING the 9/11 sympathy the world gave us and completely ruining it, by trying to make a connection between Al Queda and Saddam. I personally believe Saddam was on the backend of the 1993 Trade Center bombing but it cannot be proven for sure. This using the 9/11 attacks as an excuse to carry out the war is the most dispicable of all.
- Bush, who never served himself, landing on the carrier like somekind of 9 year old with his first cowboy suit. Prancing around egging on the terrorists to "bring it on." Pathetic.
5) Completely absent on the economy.
First of all the tax cuts coinciding with the war is a no brainer. Every 9th grade kid learns about guns and butter so I won't go over it. Absolutley wreckless. Asking Congress for a blank check for the war, while at the same time passing a tax cut. I am honestly suprised that the economy has recovered at all. Seems to me it is on life support from the tax cuts, and has grown IN SPITE of Bush's policies.
6) And the biggest reason of all -Cheney. This lying bastard has a one track mind -- FIGHTING. That's all this dumbass ever thinks about. He is stuck in 1983 Cold War policitcs, and has failed to adjust to the state of current affairs. It's like he's stuck in a time warp. It's not about how has the biggest anymore. You gotta be smart nowadays, do your homework, enjoy a little forepaly, and THEN pull it out at the right time.
The running theme with this administration is:
We have agendas A, B, and C, it doesn't matter if current events mean those plans suck, we are going to push our agenda anyway even if it makes absolutley no sense whatsover, and we don't care what anybody else thinks.
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Ted Striker
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United States of America
Jan 1970
time: 21:23
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quote:
Originally posted by The Mad Monk
In a way, I would.
See, the way he focused on his VietNam record, as opposed to his political record, gives me reason to belive that he himself had no faith in his own ability as a lawmaker to carry the day with the electorate. His continuing insistance on bringing up VietNam again and again, time after time only serves to nail that home for me, and in addition shows a significant amount of stubborness and rigidity in his character that could prove dangerous when dealing with the maelstrom that is the world today.
If he can't figure out the need to alter an obviously bad course during the campaign, what faith do you have that he will be able to during an international crises? |
Well, the thing is, Kerry was personally very reluctant to trot out his war record.
Bush, now proclaimed by the critics as the Master of Foreign Policy (which is the ultimate irony because during the campaign for President 2000 , foreign policy was his weakest area by far) was seen as the stronger of the 2, and Kerry seen as a wimp.
So Kerry was encouraged by his advisors to put his war record up to make him appear stronger.
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10-09-2004 13:11
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