20-09-2004 23:52									#31
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quote: How can you plot to legalize something which is already legal?

Bush passed a partial birth abortion ban.

Partial birth abortions are illegal in the US.

	21-09-2004 00:12									#32
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Banning the Bible

	21-09-2004 00:13									#33
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quote: Originally posted by Ogie Oglethorpe For purposes of equal insanity

You're equating the Republican National Committee with a madman who brought a hatchet to a Planning Commission meeting and advocates assassinating the President?

Yeah, I guess that's pretty close.

	21-09-2004 00:15									#34
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Campaign 2004: How low can you go?

	21-09-2004 00:15									#35
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quote: Originally posted by Ben Kenobi Bush passed a partial birth abortion ban. Partial birth abortions are illegal in the US.

I realize this is your area of obsessive-compulsive disorder and maybe you know the legalities better than I do, but I'm under the impression that every attempt to ban partial birth abortions has been overturned by the courts because they fail to protect the mother's life. Info to the contrary?

	21-09-2004 00:16									#36
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quote: Originally posted by Ben Kenobi How many have bombed a clinic?

And you probably know the numbers on clinic bombings better than most of us, too. But are you implying that clinic bombings have been rare? That's flatly false.

	21-09-2004 00:26									#37
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quote: Originally posted by Ben Kenobi Bush passed a partial birth abortion ban. Partial birth abortions are illegal in the US.

Wouldn't partial birth abortion produce half-dead babies?

"OMG HEADLINE ABOUT UNDEAD BABIES!!!!111"

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	21-09-2004 00:31									#38
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quote: I'm under the impression that every attempt to ban partial birth abortions has been overturned by the courts because they fail to protect the mother's life. Info to the contrary?

No. All attempts to overturn the partial birth abortion ban have come because they want the inclusion of a 'health' clause that would be interpreted so broadly as to allow all partial birth abortions to be performed.

Remember, partial birth abortions are done on children who are viable, and could live outside the womb. So you have no conflict between the life of the mother and the life of the child.

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quote: And you probably know the numbers on clinic bombings better than most of us, too. But are you implying that clinic bombings have been rare? That's flatly false.

I'm looking for evidence that they are as prevalent as people suppose.

Why should I do your work for you?

	21-09-2004 00:41									#40
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quote: Originally posted by debeest You're equating the Republican National Committee with a madman who brought a hatchet to a Planning Commission meeting and advocates assassinating the President? Yeah, I guess that's pretty close.

Just the latest of the day. Shall we have a contest?

	21-09-2004 01:01									#41
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quote: You're equating the Republican National Committee with a madman who brought a hatchet to a Planning Commission meeting and advocates assassinating the President? Yeah, I guess that's pretty close.

That was good, Ogie, comeon!

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	21-09-2004 01:06									#42
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All right, you got me, even I had a chuckle when I read it.

	21-09-2004 02:03									#43
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Well, according to this site , it's the other way around; Book burning is in fact a true christian tradition, and now those pinko bastards are trying to co-opt this!

Hey, I found the site on the internet, so everything about it must be true!

	21-09-2004 02:48									#44
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quote: Originally posted by Kuciwalker Banning the Bible

Troll, idiot, or both?

	21-09-2004 02:49									#45
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A bite!

	21-09-2004 02:50									#46
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Well, thank God they didn't reveal our plan to put of bible thumpers into trucks and ship them off to Nevada were we plan to exterminate them and turn them into Soylent Green to feed the hungry brown people.

	21-09-2004 03:40									#47
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quote: Originally posted by Ben Kenobi No. All attempts to overturn the partial birth abortion ban have come because they want the inclusion of a 'health' clause that would be interpreted so broadly as to allow all partial birth abortions to be performed.

But am I correct, or not, in saying that every ban on partial birth abortion has been overturned, generally because they lack an exception protecting the mother's health?

	21-09-2004 03:53									#48
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Google News on abortion bomb clinic:

http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&l...c&start=50&sa=N

Any questions?

	21-09-2004 03:58									#49
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quote: Originally posted by Ramo Why would the quote possibly be about abortion?

It's not. But if you plug in Gore, kill, and babies -- all you get is abortion hits. Millions of them.

	21-09-2004 03:59									#50
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quote: Originally posted by Admiral Both sides have their crazies. For every Avila, there's some republican nutcase who goes and blows up abortion clinics. This is a nonissue.

Republican?

	21-09-2004 04:02									#51
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Maybe there wouldn't be such a huge debate over abortion if your teens would actually be able to not get preggo every other week. Something to think about. Pre-emptive strike right there. If you are old enough to have sex, you are old enough to know about protection, failing that you should take the responsibility of your actions. While I'm not heavy on banning abortion, I feel in cases like rape, in case of a great chance the carrier ship getting in danger delivering etc, it should be possible, however, in most cases like most abortions are done, I would say they shouldn't do the abortion. I'm not going to go there and deny their chance doing it, but I feel if you are old enough to get pregnant, then you are old enough to have it too, because it's not a joke. But I'm not strong pro-life guy, and then again I'm not strong pro-choice either. Somewhere in the middle I guess.

Say, I make someone pregnant, she better have that baby too. If it's up to me, there's not going to be an abortion, and if she don't want it, then I take it myself, and if she dont' want me with the package, then I'll just have to slap her around and be there anyway, it's not a choice she can make.

	21-09-2004 04:17									#52
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quote: Now if we can get rid of the pledge completely, then we're getting somewhere.

Yup, I don't like the idea of the state "asking" children to pledge allegiance to state and God, it seems paradoxical that we would legally prevent children from making many of their own decisions based on the notion of consent and then treat this foundation
as if it is illogical when it comes to pushing religion.

	21-09-2004 04:26									#53
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Admiral, let's test your ability to reason. Is there anything wrong with the following:

All abortion bombers are Christian.
All Christians are Republican.
All abortion bombers are Republican.

	21-09-2004 04:57									#54
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Thank god not all Christians are republican.

How about this chain of logic.

All abortion bombers are nuts.
All republican party members are nuts.
Therefore:
All republican party members are potention abortion bombers.

Sounds good to me!

	21-09-2004 05:09									#55
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quote: Originally posted by monolith94 Thank god not all Christians are republican. How about this chain of logic. All abortion bombers are nuts. All republican party members are nuts. Therefore: All republican party members are potention abortion bombers. Sounds good to me!

To make that really work logically, you would have to say that all nuts are Republicans.

Che once said that the Florida exclusion of 90k Florida felons from voting in 2000 cost Gore 90k votes.

Now, you figure out his logic, if you please.

	21-09-2004 06:56									#56
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quote: Originally posted by Ned Che once said that the Florida exclusion of 90k Florida felons from voting in 2000 cost Gore 90k votes. Now, you figure out his logic, if you please.

They were in for document forgery.....

	21-09-2004 07:08									#57
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quote: Originally posted by Boshko How despicable http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tm...r/campaign_mail How long do you think its going to be before this kind of Culture War idiocy comes back to bite the Republicans in the ass? It would be really nice to be able to at least consider a major party that isn't so largely composed of weenies as the Democrats And this isn't some mailing on the part of some dumbass local candidate, this is the Republican National Committee.

There's a great article written by Mike Royko in 1973, that describes a RNC pamphlet mailed thru Jesse Helm's offices. It states that liberals want to teach to junior high kids that casual sex and cannibalism are okay; it turns out they based it entirely on one article in some magazine that said that when things get really bad for an Inuit tribe they resort to cannibalism and that that tribe was casual about sex.

So the repugs probably figure they can get another good 30 years before anyone notices.

	21-09-2004 07:09									#58
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quote: Originally posted by GhengisFarb They were in for document forgery.....

Yeah, lots of people got on the felon list who weren't felons. Also the way the list was set up NO hispanics got on the felon list, and if you consider the way the Cuban-American community votes that is a very interesting fact...

	21-09-2004 07:20									#59
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Oh yeah, was the GOP claim that the Bible would be banned based on the pledge issue? God I hope not, that would mean the GOP believes the Bible gives them the right to coerce other people's children into pledging allegiance to their God... Oops, they are claiming that right and refusing to recognise it is tantamount to banning the Bible...

	21-09-2004 13:19									#60
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Isn't a pledge a little out dated nowadays, well not so much outdated as I don't see the reason for it. Why does America have a pledge of alliegence?

Also if NZ politics ever gets as bad as American politics remind me to move to Europe.