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Bosh is offline Bosh
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How despicable

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tm...r/campaign_mail

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By WILL LESTER, Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON - Campaign mail with a return address of the Republican National Committee (news - web sites) warns West Virginia voters that the Bible will be prohibited and men will marry men if liberals win in November.


The literature shows a Bible with the word "BANNED" across it and a photo of a man, on his knees, placing a ring on the hand of another man with the word "ALLOWED." The mailing tells West Virginians to "vote Republican to protect our families" and defeat the "liberal agenda."


Republican National Committee Chairman Ed Gillespie said Friday that he wasn't aware of the mailing, but said it could be the work of the RNC. "It wouldn't surprise me if we were mailing voters on the issue of same-sex marriage," Gillespie said.


The flier says Republicans have passed laws protecting life, support defining marriage as between a man and a woman and will nominate conservative judges who will "interpret the law and not legislate from the bench."

"The liberal agenda includes removing `under God' from the Pledge of Allegiance," it says.


It does not mention the names of the presidential candidates.


Jim Jordan, a spokesman for American Coming Together, described the mailing as "standard-issue Republican hate-mongering."


Gillespie said same-sex marriage is a legitimate issue in the election. President Bush (news - web sites) has proposed amending the Constitution to ban gay marriage. Democratic Sen. John Kerry (news - web sites) also opposes gay marriage but said a constitutional amendment is going too far.


The RNC also is running radio ads in several states urging people to register to vote.


"There is a line drawn in America today," one ad says. "On one side are the radicals trying to uproot our traditional values and our culture. They're fighting to hijack the institution of marriage, plotting to legalize partial birth abortion, and working to take God out of the pledge of allegiance and force the worst of Hollywood on the rest of America."


"Are you on their side of the line?" the ad asks before making the plea to "support conservative Republican candidates."



How long do you think its going to be before this kind of Culture War idiocy comes back to bite the Republicans in the ass? It would be really nice to be able to at least consider a major party that isn't so largely composed of weenies as the Democrats

And this isn't some mailing on the part of some dumbass local candidate, this is the Republican National Committee.

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Oh, it's no worse than conducting a mass-mailing to senior citizens stating that if the Repubs win, SS and Medicare will, somehow, disappear.

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"The liberal agenda includes removing `under God' from the Pledge of Allegiance," it says.




Now if we can get rid of the pledge completely, then we're getting somewhere.

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Oh, it's no worse than conducting a mass-mailing to senior citizens stating that if the Repubs win, SS and Medicare will, somehow, disappear.

Did the Democratic National Committee do that

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I hardly think the two are comparable, though don't get me wrong thats not condonable. Lying and deceiving about another party, scaremongering is not a liberal thing to do .

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I love American politics It's like a whole new world to me. I just feel I could make great attacks, say Bush is eating in at AppleBees, I could warn the nation 'THE PRESIDENT PASSED A FREUDIAN SLIP, SAYING HE WANTS TO EAT THE BACK OF TEH BABIES! OMG OMG He's a HUMAN EATER! IF YOU ELECT THIS MAN, WE WILL LEGALIZE HUMAN EATING!'''2,

And then Kerry would say he thinks that he believes in God but has his own opinion on religious things 'OMG KRRY IS A SATANIST! HERETIC! BUUUURN BUUURN IF YOU LET THIS MAN WIN, THIS COUNTRY WILL FACE x2000 times the tornadoes because GOD IS ANGRY!11'

Gotta love it .

And the people who really believes that stuff, gotta be afraid of that

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plotting to legalize partial birth abortion




How can you plot to legalize something which is already legal?

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plotting to legalize partial birth abortion




How can you plot to legalize something which is already legal?

The liberals will find a way, not even the most basic tenets of logic can stand against THAT kind of evil.

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Oh, it's no worse than conducting a mass-mailing to senior citizens stating that if the Repubs win, SS and Medicare will, somehow, disappear.


Or the favorite saying of Al Gore and other Demoncrats, that Republicans KILL, mind you, KILL babies and children...

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Or the favorite saying of Al Gore and other Demoncrats, that Republicans KILL, mind you, KILL babies and children...

link?

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Bosko, you have got to be kidding.

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And this isn't some mailing on the part of some dumbass local candidate, this is the Republican National Committee.

The Republican National Committee is just as psycho and out of touch with their constituents as the Democratic National Committe.

Seriously, I sometimes consider it a miracle the two parties still exist with the cluelessness of their hierarchy.

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Or the favorite saying of Al Gore and other Demoncrats, that Republicans KILL, mind you, KILL babies and children...


But they do, with F16s

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But they do, with F16s


And one might argue that the Dems also do so by wanting abortions

Both claims are equally laughable

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I don't see howstating correctly that liberals are for gay marraige, for partial birth abortions, and for removing religion whole sale from the government as hate monging.

I see only one propoganda machine running, and it is the one that labels everything froma conservative source as hate monging.

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I don't see howstating correctly that liberals are for gay marraige, for partial birth abortions, and for removing religion whole sale from the government as hate monging.

I see only one propoganda machine running, and it is the one that labels everything froma conservative source as hate monging.

And its spellcheck function is broke.........

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American politics is like poo fighting with diarrhea.

Poo: I'm stiffer than you!
Diarrhea: Yeah and I don't clog the toilet so often, HA!
Poo: You smell worse also, baby killer
Diarrhea: And I don't splash the but cheeks as bad as you.

It's like who cares, they're still both crap and they're fighting over who is even worse.

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And one might argue that the Dems also do so by wanting abortions

Both claims are equally laughable


Yes, I laugh at abortions and bombed children every time I see them.

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Yes, I laugh at abortions and bombed children every time I see them.


Then read my comment again... because I said the "claims" were laughable, not the actions.

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Bosko, you have got to be kidding.

Well I have been out of the country for over a year, but I haven't seen Gore saying that the Republicans want to kill kids.

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Seriously, I sometimes consider it a miracle the two parties still exist with the cluelessness of their hierarchy.

Yeah

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I don't see howstating correctly that liberals are for gay marraige, for partial birth abortions, and for removing religion whole sale from the government as hate monging.

So saying that liberals want to ban the bible isn't hage mongering how?

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Do liberals want to remove the bible from everything government?

Yes.

Is that banning the bible in government?

Yes.

Am I required to add 200 pages worth of parameteres to every statement I make so twits won't purposely expand arguements for their left propganda purposes (I trust West Virginians to identify "Left" and "Bible Banning" to church and state debates, though I obviously can't expect you too which should say something).

No.

You are being a sensationalist, aka purposely framing data to skew it from its purpose without stating facts of anyones agenta (which the article does). And you are doing so to frame conservatives in a hateful light, hence hate mongering.

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Bosko, I'm afraid you weren't around when Gore was in office. This was a standard way of attacking Republican proposals to curb spending.

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And they didn't say that liberals want to ban the bible, what they said was...

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shows a Bible with the word "BANNED" across


quote:
The liberal agenda includes removing `under God' from the Pledge of Allegiance


and presumably the flier said much more. So actually they added parameters to their own arguement in the same publication.

Selective quoting is wonderful, isn't it.

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Patroklos is right. The flier simply used inane hyperbole and tried to drum up hysteria.

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Or the favorite saying of Al Gore and other Demoncrats, that Republicans KILL, mind you, KILL babies and children...


I'd like a source. I don't remember this.

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Ramo, I did a quick Google. I came up with so many recent hits concern Gore and abortion that I could not find the 9-10 year old quotes from the days of the Republican Contract with America.

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Why would the quote possibly be about abortion?

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City council candidate advocates assassinating Bush, sexually assaulting Bush daughters










By: Associated Press -

THOUSAND OAKS -- A City Council candidate who once brought a hatchet to a Planning Commission meeting got the attention of Secret Service agents because he distributed fliers advocating the assassination of President Bush.

The agents and a Ventura County sheriff's deputy showed up at this week's council meeting after council members learned of the fliers.

"We were concerned that if he came, we should be prepared for the safety of the council and residents," Mayor Bob Wilson said.

Daniel Avila, 25, admitted Wednesday that he handed out fliers at the city's Oktoberfest celebration stating, "President George W. Bush Deserves to Be Assassinated." The handbill also called for a sex attack on the president's twin daughters.

Avila, who didn't attend the Tuesday night council session, wouldn't discuss his motives.

"I don't want to give any clue as to whether I'm serious or whether I'm playing around," he said. "I just think people need to allow something they don't like in their society to exist. In general that's what democracy is all about."

Sheriff's Capt. Ken Cozzens said authorities have been in contact with the Secret Service as they monitor the council candidate, who is an information technology specialist and a 20-year resident of the Newbury Park area.

"Judging by what he's putting out, he's definitely worth watching," Cozzens said. "I'm concerned when anybody rants and raves like that."

Avila first got the attention of authorities when he showed up wielding a hatchet at a July 26 meeting of the Planning Commission. A sheriff's sergeant regularly attends the meeting.

"People at the Planning Commission were looking at our sergeant to make sure the sergeant was aware he had a hatchet," Cozzens said. When approached by the sergeant, Avila agreed to put the hatchet in his car, the captain said.

Also in July, Avila spoke at a City Council meeting and held up bumper stickers advocating the killing of the president.

Councilman Ed Masry said an added deputy would be at council meetings until completion of a thorough investigation.

"He's running for City Council," Masry said. "We have a situation where these council meetings can proceed without any fear of somebody doing something irrational. Advocating killing Bush and raping his daughters is irrational."

Asked if he has ever committed a violent act, Avila said he has not.

"But if I did, I wouldn't be honest about it," he said.

Information from: Ventura County Star, http://venturacountystar.com


Dem Nuttiness

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Both sides have their crazies. For every Avila, there's some republican nutcase who goes and blows up abortion clinics. This is a nonissue.

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For every Avila, there's some republican nutcase who goes and blows up abortion clinics.


How many have bombed a clinic?

 
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