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Stefu is offline Stefu
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I thought the inevitable new thread should have a good, reflecting title.

http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...439#post3315439

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Summary:

Kerry risked his life defending his country
Bush didn't

CASE CLOSED!

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Summary:

You guys are ****ing stupid to care.

CASE CLOSED!

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jesus, 5 threads on such a non-issue?

meanwhile iraq is a mess and the terrorists are waiting to attack on the homefront.

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How would you know?

I thought the war was succesfull, because the terrorists are in Iraq blowing things up, instead of US of A?

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The disingenuous party thread continues...

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jesus, 5 threads on such a non-issue?


Tell me about it. Americans...

(Suddenly remembers how the Finnish presidential election 2000 was about such important issues as Halonen's single motherhood or church membership and Aho's ad with the mobile telephone)

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From page 1 of previous incarnation:
Me said this,
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I say we start betting on how many more incarnations of this thread will reach 500 posts before November 2. Let's make it easier: How many threads total?

I say 10 total.


Well, we're half way there.

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(Suddenly remembers how the Finnish presidential election 2000 was about such important issues as Halonen's single motherhood or church membership and Aho's ad with the mobile telephone)

But honestly, are there any better issues for Finns to discuss?

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The best ways to execute foreign leaders when evil, evil Finland makes its move for world domination?

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Well, no. I mean, they could have discussed appropiate means to provide a final solution to Pikku G, but Pikku G hadn't started rapping in 2000 yet, so that was kind of out.

But does this also mean that Americans have no better issues to discuss than Vietnam?

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But does this also mean that Americans have no better issues to discuss than Vietnam?

Well sure we do, but those other issues are so boring. Occupation of Iraq? Economy? OMGWTF, Hanoi John?

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Or "O/\/\I G0d, Bush missed a physical!"

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The Republicans are just making a fuss because their leader is a proven coward.

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Well exactly. Though that one seems to have morphed into "WHAT'S THE TYPEFONT KENNETH? WHAT'S THE TYPEFONT KENNETH? WHAT'S THE TYPEFONT KENNETH? *kick* *kick*"

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Is that REM?

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This is a sad and pathetic election- which is dishearetning givne so many people's (including my own) belief that this election is very important.

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I like the newest ad at www.swiftvets.org Nice way to get the point across, having big bold letters over Kerry saying "BETRAYED HIS COUNTRY" and comparing him to Jane Fonda.

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Yes, they do make the point well, that their group is made up of bitter old fools 30 years behind the times, a bunch of hateful and weak men who can;t move beyond immaginary slights they felt so long ago.

We should pity those men.

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I like the newest ad at www.swiftvets.org Nice way to get the point across, having big bold letters over Kerry saying "BETRAYED HIS COUNTRY" and comparing him to Jane Fonda.


Jane Fonda's a hell of a lot foxier than Kerry. No comparison! Those homos.

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I like this title, we'll run with it.

The only people who really cared about what Kerry did in VietNam and what Bush did in the Texas National Guard, were Kerry's people -- as is abundantly clear by how he let his entire campaign get derailed by it.

So let's dicuss.

If Kerry can bungle such an (apparently) no-brainer election so badly, do you really want him anywhere near the White House?

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We should pity those men.


Why pity them? They achieved their goal with a fraction of the money your Democratic cohorts have been tossing into their 527's. The Swifties don't need your pity; they're too busy dancing on the corpse of Kerry's campaign...

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One day, when you grow up DRakie Pooh, you will realize that seeing sad and pathetic men lash out in anger, even if they achieve their misguided goal, is no basis for an end to pity. After all, if these men succesfully committed suicide or homicide, would you cheer for them? Are you that immoral?

Have you no decency sir?

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Originally posted by The Mad Monk
I like this title, we'll run with it.


Let's get things started, then...

Kerry the Diplomat:

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John Kerry's campaign has warned Australians that the Howard Government's support for the US in Iraq has made them a bigger target for international terrorists.

Diana Kerry, younger sister of the Democrat presidential candidate, told The Weekend Australian that the Bali bombing and the recent attack on the Australian embassy in Jakarta clearly showed the danger to Australians had increased.

"Australia has kept faith with the US and we are endangering the Australians now by this wanton disregard for international law and multilateral channels," she said, referring to the invasion of Iraq.

Asked if she believed the terrorist threat to Australians was now greater because of the support for Republican George W. Bush, Ms Kerry said: "The most recent attack was on the Australian embassy in Jakarta -- I would have to say that."


http://www.theaustralian.news.com.a...%5E2703,00.html

quote:
The president made a series of promises to us - number one, that he was gonna make every effort possible to build a legitimate coalition. He did not - he built a fraudulent coalition.


http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarep...pimentel11.html

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QUESTION: Prime Minister Allawi told Congress today that democracy was taking hold in Iraq and that the terrorists there were on the defensive. Is he living in the same fantasy land as the president?

KERRY: I think the prime minister is, obviously, contradicting his own statement of a few days ago, where he said the terrorists are pouring into the country. The prime minister and the president are here, obviously, to put their best face on the policy. But the fact is that the CIA estimates, the reporting, the ground operations and the troops all tell a different story.


http://www.nytimes.com/2004/09/23/p...TEXT-KERRY.html

Of course, after all this doom-saying on Kerry's part, he's still going to pull off a miracle and get the whole world to come take over for us in Iraq.



That's his "plan", at any rate...

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New Swift boat Ad

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TITLE: “Friends”



OPEN WITH: Footage of Jane Fonda.

CUT TO: STILLS Kerry, protesters.

Announcer: Even before Jane Fonda went to Hanoi to meet with the enemy and mock America, John Kerry secretly met with enemy leaders in Paris.


CUT TO: SUPER John Kerry secretly met enemy leaders.


Announcer: Though we were still at war and Americans were being held in North Vietnamese prison camps.

CUT TO: STILL Kerry testifying.

Announcer: Then he returned and accused American troops of committing war crimes on a daily basis.


CUT TO: Fonda at press conference.

Announcer: Eventually Jane Fonda apologized for her activities, but John Kerry refuses to.

Announcer: In a time of war, can America trust a man who betrayed his country?

CG: Paid for by Swift Boat Veterans for Truth and not authorized by any candidate or candidate’s committee. www. Swiftvets.com. Swift Boat Veterans for Truth is responsible for the content of this advertisement.



General consensus is this copy cat thread should be pushed to 500. Since its a democracy, I will live with the majority decision, unlike the whiny Dems of Florida 2000.

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I'm starting the next Suomithreadi, BTW...

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I have been to Paris. I have talked with both delegations at the peace talks, that is to say the Democratic Republic of Vietnam and the Provisional Revolutionary Government and of all eight of Madam Binh's points it has been stated time and time again, and was stated by Senator Vance Hartke when he returned from Paris, and it has been stated by many other officials of this Government, if the United States were to set a date for withdrawal the prisoners of war would be returned.

I think this negates very clearly the argument of the President that we have to maintain a presence in Vietnam, to use as a negotiating block for the return of those prisoners. The setting of a date will accomplish that.

-- John Kerry, testifying before the Senate Committee on Foreign Relations, April 22, 1971




Kerry campaign states that Kerry was in the reserves and as a consequence not subject to UCMJ, whether that arguement is true or not is questionable. But....

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Any citizen of the United States, wherever he may be, who, without authority of the United States, directly or indirectly commences or carries on any correspondence or intercourse with any foreign government or any officer or agent thereof, with intent to influence the measures or conduct of any foreign government or of any officer or agent thereof, in relation to any disputes or controversies with the United States, or to defeat the measures of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.

-- U.S. Code, Title 18, Part I, Chapter 45, Section 953: Private correspondence with foreign governments





The language is clear as are the actions of Kerry.

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Course on April 18, 1985 he went with Senator Harkin without the approval of the Senate to likewise to offer aid and support to Manuel Ortega in Nicarauga in stark contrast to the Presidents policy.

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I must answer JohnT's post in the pathetic copycat thread:

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Stefu got all pouty and apparently decided that he needed a thread of his own that could get past the 100-post barrier.


The word 'Suomithreadi' mean anything to ya?

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A thread of relevance, Steffi.

 
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