20-10-2004 14:30									#181
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Almost done processing. And let me tell you, this is going to be the leg with most carnage so far in this tournament, I'd say.

	20-10-2004 14:50									#182
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I'll just do this the quick and dirty way.

Round 3, Leg 1 Results

Battle 1: Jamski-san vs. Captain Flint

1. Both deal 13 points of damage.
2. Jamski deals 13, Flint deals 18
3. Flint deals 13

Jamski has 56, Flint has 74 HP left.

Battle 2: Jamski-san vs. Spacius Maximus

1. Jamski deals 8, Spacius deals 1
2. Jamski deals 8
3. Nothing happens.

Jamski has 99 left, Spacius Maximus has 84 left.

Battle 3: Jamski-san vs. The Doctor

1. Jamski deals 15
2. Jamski deals 15, Doc deals 2
3. nothing

The Doctor has 70 left, Jamski-san has 98 left.

Battle 4: Emperor Commodus vs. Spacius Maximus

1.-3. Nothing happens, both at 100 HP.

Battle 5: Emperor Commodus vs. The Doctor

Both gladiators meet, shake hands and agree to a draw. Wimps.

Battle 6: Emperor Commodus vs. Jack the Knife

1.-3. Nothing happens. Both at 100.

Battle 7: Lord Drogue vs. The Doctor

1.-3. Yawn. Both at 100.

Battle 8: Lord Drogue vs. Jack the Knife

1.
2. Jack deals 4 points of damage!
3. Jack deals 13.

Lord Drogue has 83 left, Jack the Knife at full health.

Battle 9: Lord Drogue vs. The Sparrow

1.
2. Drogue deals 24, The Sparrow deals 19 points of damage.
3.

Lord Drogue has 81 pts left, The Sparrow has 76 points left.

Battle 10: Captain Flint vs. Jack the Knife

1. Flint deals 13, Jack deals 21
2. Flint deals 18, Jack deals 31
3. Flint deals 13 points of damage.

What a battle! Captain Flint has 49 pts of health left, while Jack the Knife has 56 points' worth left in him.

Battle 11: Captain Flint vs. The Sparrow

All blows connect!
1. Flint deals 13, Sparrow deals 18.
2. Both deal 18 points of damage.
3. Both deal 13 points of damage.

Captain Flint has 51 points of health left. The Sparrow has 56 points .

Battle 12: Spacius Maximus vs. The Sparrow

1. Spaced deals 1
2.-3.

Spacius Maximus at full health, The Sparrow at 99.

Accepting orders for the second leg of the third round!

I'll get back to more descriptive results when the semis begin. I have a mafia game and a democracy game to run!

	20-10-2004 22:13									#183
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quote: Originally posted by Kassiopeia Almost done processing. And let me tell you, this is going to be the leg with most carnage so far in this tournament, I'd say.

I'd like to be able to take part of the credit for that, but I really need to go back and look at the orders I sent in and compare to the results and see if I can figure out whether my actions contributed to higher damage against me or against my opponents.


Good to see the debate over (I hope!) and the game continuing

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	21-10-2004 18:08									#184
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Though it pains me to admit this, I've just realised that my orders for the fight against Drogue were illegal, and also that I'm fairly sure that they could not have given the above result anyway. Unless I'm going loopy and am wrong or Kassiopeia has a better solution I presume a rematch is in order...

	21-10-2004 18:14									#185
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Was the total over 100? One line more than 50?

	21-10-2004 18:21									#186
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Anyway, in the mean time I've sent orders for the other two matches.

	21-10-2004 18:45									#187
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Yes, the total was over 100. However, I strolled to the murky waters of intent and thought it was a typo. Say, if the number Jybtheway had sent me was 20, but with number 10 the order set would perfectly mesh with a total of 100 and a max of 50 per each line. So I thought it was a typo and went with 10. (The game was behind as it was, and more importantly, this change to the number had no actual effect on the battle in this particular case.)

If either of you want a rematch regardless, I've no qualms with that.

Normally I'd ask for a clarification as I've already done before in this game.

Also, I won't tell you if you're using less than 100 points, since that is giving the one who sent the faulty orders the disadvantage. Double-check your orders.

	21-10-2004 19:00									#188
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sent

	21-10-2004 19:03									#189
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I thought that one line was over 50, but the total was 100...

In any case, I'm (unsurprisingly) happy with the result as it stands, and I think it's quite likely that what was chosen for my orders is indeed roughly what I would have done had I noticed the problem, but if Drogue wants a rematch then I'm happy to oblige.

	23-10-2004 07:37									#190
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Only have orders from Bytheway and Spaced so far. But then it is the weekend.

	23-10-2004 13:53									#191
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I'll do mine this weekend. I propose that after the weekend you make clear we are returning to the 48 hour restriction.

	23-10-2004 17:11									#192
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Orders sent

	24-10-2004 22:46									#193
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quote: Originally posted by J Bytheway In any case, I'm (unsurprisingly) happy with the result as it stands, and I think it's quite likely that what was chosen for my orders is indeed roughly what I would have done had I noticed the problem, but if Drogue wants a rematch then I'm happy to oblige.

If Kass said he didn't think it would make a difference, then I'm fine with it

And bump for orders.

	25-10-2004 11:57									#194
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Was busy this weekend. Tonight for sure, though it seems we still have a long way to go.

	25-10-2004 19:50									#195
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Remaining orders (for me vs. Drogue leg 2) sent.

	25-10-2004 20:02									#196
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Missing Ljube's.

	25-10-2004 20:03									#197
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and mine, will be in today though.

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	26-10-2004 03:39									#198
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Sent.

	26-10-2004 04:26									#199
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OMG!! Spikie isn't last!?!

* Theben considers becoming a theist.

	26-10-2004 04:26									#200
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and Sent!

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	26-10-2004 11:59									#201
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quote: Originally posted by Theben OMG!! Spikie isn't last!?! * Theben considers becoming a theist.

You have a lot of posts in this thread for someone too scared to play.

	26-10-2004 16:38									#202
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Now, now ... let's not fib shall we? You and I both know that I went on vacation and the game started before I got back. I fact I found this little tidbit in the signup:

quote: Originally posted by DrSpike Hurry up and start the game, Kass. I don't want Theben to have a chance to sign up because he'll beat me again.

	26-10-2004 16:48									#203
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I think I've all orders. Results are forthcoming in a few hours. And then it's the semis!

	26-10-2004 20:22									#204
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ARGH! Missing Jamski's orders. And DOY's too.

Ljube sent me orders for a battle against Spikie, I'm going to jot that down under "Disasterous error of thought", like my killing of Snowflake in Mafia 27.

	26-10-2004 21:44									#205
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I found this:

quote: Originally posted by Theben Now, now it is no crime to fear you, since you are the strongest player. I was merely trying to hold on to the fact I beat you for a little while longer.

	26-10-2004 23:27									#206
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Just thought I'd update the points; in parentheses is the total should the winnings stay the same:

Emperor Commodus 12 points (15)
Jack the Knife 9 points (16)
The Doctor 9 points (11)
Lord Drogue 7 points (11)
Spacius Maximus 5 points (9)
Jamski-san 3 points (9)
Captain Flint 1 point (4)
Sparrow 0 points (3)

	27-10-2004 05:59									#207
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quote: Originally posted by Kassiopeia ARGH! Missing Jamski's orders. And DOY's too. Ljube sent me orders for a battle against Spikie, I'm going to jot that down under "Disasterous error of thought", like my killing of Snowflake in Mafia 27.

Surely just because they've agreed a draw, doesn't mean he can't come out all guns blazing and surprise the Doctor? Maybe that was his strategy?

	27-10-2004 09:03									#208
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Heavens no. I'm sure it was just a little mishap on his part. And even if it weren't, I would under no circumstances accept it. A draw is a draw.

	27-10-2004 14:17									#209
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So if someone proffered a draw, they can't go back on it. I think the ability to be 'done-over' makes it less likely for people to agree draws, which is better for the crowd, more interesting in terms of what happens, and more realistic. Strategically breaking a treaty is used in many games, so rejecting someone's orders if they are correct (ie. under 100 and all lines under 50) would seem to be going a little far. Both gladiators would have to step out, a draw would simply be putting 0 0 0 in all lines, not trying anything. If the other one decides to suddenly surprise and attack, what would be stopping them? There is a rule against attacking your opponent?

I think Ljube managed to play Spikie well, if the orders are intended. I've never seen a GM be able to enforce a private agreement between competitors in that way.

	27-10-2004 14:27									#210
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We'll have to discuss that further. Had Ljube put in that he intended to break the draw, I would have thought otherwise. If the players agree with each other that they go with 00 00 00 or agree on numbers that cause no damage to either one, of course I won't interfere with that. But this was more of the kind of draw where the gladiators don't even step out to the arena in the first place, at least that is how I understood it. I also took into account that it's been many days so Ljube may not even remember that he agreed to a draw - also, his orders, looking at them, suggested to me that he was prepared for a battle, not a backstab butchering.