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Gatineau
Dec 2001
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Originally posted by Ned
"Iran, supporter of baby-killing, anti-Jew terrorists "
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Have you called them evil yet? Cause i think you should call them evil. You know, it's like: you so need to bring God into this.
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Flip McWho
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New Zealand
May 2002
time: 17:22
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Yes. Let's see. Iran has been called a part of the axis of 'evil' by the president of the current most powerful nation of the world. Would you feel threatened? Would you desire to get something in your arsenal to hopefully prevent an undesirable conflict?
I do grant that they don't like Israel very much though.
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MichaeltheGreat
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Apolyton Grand Executioner
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mooning the house that Ruth built.
Oct 1999
time: 21:22
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Originally posted by Kuciwalker
This is what I don't understand - they say we only have something like 135,000 troops in Iraq, but I thought we had over half a million... where'd the other few hundred thousand go? |
Some are about to rotate in, some have just rotated out, some are REMFs who are part of the logistical chain from the US to Kuwait and then Iraq.
The Army is just under 500,000, but a majority of that is combat support and combat support services, and a majority of the manpower of the army is in units other than the ten combat divisions - Corps level units, miscellaneous command staffs, independent units for maintenance, logistics, MPs, signals, air defense, and all sorts of other stuff. Some of those are deployed, some are tied up in support roles here.
The biggest constraint on the Army and Marines is our level of sealift and airlift capacity, plus the rate of production for things like ordnance and replacement equipment. We don't have the resupply or the transport capability to engage two significant enemies simultaneously, and we haven't had for a long time.
A lot of the ten combat divisions are not deployed in Iraq, but HQ and supply elements plus a brigade or two doesn't leave much left, and you don't want to split your command and support elements between two different combat deployments, so if we did start to get our dicks in a meatgrinder somewhere else, you'd likely see some redeployment and consolidation of units first.
All of that really just collides with the hard reality that we're heavy lift constrained, so we aren't going anywhere else in any major force any time soon.
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MichaeltheGreat
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Apolyton Grand Executioner
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mooning the house that Ruth built.
Oct 1999
time: 21:22
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Originally posted by Kuciwalker
Right, but are the entire divisions being sent, or part? We sent 500,000 troops to Iraq the first time. |
Some of each. In Iraq the first time, that 500,000 included USMC, Air force and squids.
We had 1 and 2 Marine divisions plus attached USMC units.
9th AF
3rd Army command
V, VII, and XVIII Airborne Corps commands
1, 3, and 24 Infantry divisions.
1, 2 and 3 Armored divisions
1st Cavalry, 82nd Airborne and 101st Airborne/Air Assault divisions, 2nd and 3rd Armored Cav Regiments (which are real fat for regiments - the two units would be about division strength)
plus smaller army units and SOF units from all services.
Plus a bunch of squids.
Last edited by MichaeltheGreat on 27-09-2004 at 05:23
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Pax
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Ned,
Are you a lawyer. Is it not illegal to attack a person simply because you feel threatened. The case you make for Isreal attacking Iran is an act of war. Why are you so eager to escalate the ME situation. I guess because you live in Cali and won't have to worry about losing life or limb.
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Shi Huangdi
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Pittsburgh, PA
Apr 1999
time: 00:22
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quote:
Originally posted by GePap
Lets see:
Iran has 7 countries bordering it: Afghanistan, Iraq, Turkey, Pakistan, Turkmenistan, Azerbaijan and Armenia.
One of them in nuclear, 2 of them are US occupied and in "reconstruction mode", 3 of them are no issues and one is a NATO member. Why wouldn't Iran make sure to have a strong military?!?
And of course, it is not the Iranians talking about striking at another states nuclear facilities, facilities under no foreign inspection and known to the world be be used to produce nuclear weapons... |
It isn't immoral on the Iranians part to try to have a strong military. However, from the perspective of someone who is pro-US or pro-Israel in anyway, it shouldn't take a rocket scientist to figure out why a hostile country acquiring strategic missles would be a concern.
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Pax
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According to international laws Isreal is committing acts of war when it carries out attacks on foreign soil. It is also the aggressor nation. Therefore in the wrong. Similar to the Nazi's and Japan in WW2.
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Pax
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How can a person be both pro-us and pro-isreal. These countries have different interests and agendas. If my statement was false then Isreal would not spy on the U.S.
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