03-11-2004 08:36									#301
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Here's the map, hope it's not too late to be of use.

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	03-11-2004 08:37									#302
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Looks good as usual , but where's.........oh........never mind

	03-11-2004 12:51									#303
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Nice map.

Sent

	03-11-2004 19:39									#304
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Still missing orders from Dark Cloud and Vlad.

Still waiting on a clarification from Muxec.

	03-11-2004 20:27									#305
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High Tech Sci Fi Societies!

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I'll probably have my orders by 20:00 GMT, 15:00 Apolyton Time, and no later than 21:00 Apolyton Time. Though I have 30 minutes now and could craft some if I work fast.

	03-11-2004 21:05									#306
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Sent.

	03-11-2004 21:07									#307
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resent.

	03-11-2004 22:37									#308
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Vlad, are you sure that you have enough spies to protect your production? ; )

	03-11-2004 23:25									#309
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...still considering things. I should have orders in by 6 PM central time or thereabouts.

	04-11-2004 02:04									#310
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...so I lied. Orders sent.

	04-11-2004 11:42									#311
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So, what is a Vlad hour in terms of LJ hours?

	04-11-2004 19:30									#312
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Quick reminder:

I am processing with the orders that I have.

Army maint costs are automatically subtracted from the gold that I post in the table, you do not have to account for it during your turn.

	04-11-2004 22:45									#313
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Turn 12: Peace at last....or is it?

Trade:
8 Caravans from Muxec[16R] to Smiley[15R] - 3840
8 Caravans from Muxec[16R] to Dark Cloud[16R] - 4096
16 Caravans from Whoha[16R] to Dark Cloud[16R] - 8192
8 Caravans from Smiley[15R] to Muxec[16R] - 3840
7 Caravans from Smiley[15R] to Whoha[16R] - 3360
15 Caravans from Vlad Antlerkov[15R] to Whoha[16R] - 7200
4 Caravans from Dark Cloud[16R] to Muxec[16R] - 2048
12 Caravans from Dark Cloud[16R] to Whoha[16R] - 6144
NOTE: I am not rounding up fractional gold due to goverment bonuses. Please plan accordingly *Denotes governmental change.

Wonder Building
Muxec constructs a Stupidity Ampliphier (17th wonder) in B3 by outpacing the competitions spending and dropping 2500 on it.

Espionage
Whoha keeps his spy at home defending military production.
Smiley sends a spy disrupt Vlad's espionage.
Vlad Antlerkov sends 1 spy to sabotage Dark Cloud's military production
Vlad Antlerkov keeps 1 spy at home defending his war phase.
Dark Cloud sends one spy to sabotage Vald's War Phase.

**Espionage end game:
Uh, yeah, the two spies from Smiley and Dark Cloud counter the 2 spies from Vlad.

City building
Ha-ha!

Gifts
Whoha gives Dark Cloud 400 armies.
Vlad Antlerkov shows Whoha the ways of The Flux Capacitor (tech 16) and Inductive Pulse Field (tech 17).

Nukes!
Vlad Antlerkov builds 8 nukes and sends them at Dark Cloud. His SDI tries to knock them down, but can't seem to get a fix on them. All eight manage to hit.

Battles
WTF, do we have mind readers here or something?

Both Dark Cloud and Vlad Antlerkov sneak attack each other. Dark Cloud sends 1218 of his horde up against 805 of Vlad's impalers (both tech 17).
Needless to say that Vlad's army is wiped out and Dark Cloud loses 805 armies and gains three cities (sneak attack rules) in G7, H7, and I9.

Governments:
Pretty lame at this point since everyone is a republic.

Wonders:
Vlad Anterkov (Jonny) (Vlad Anterkov) (Gambecube64) - G11 - Tower of Babel.
Smiley - K2 - Colosseum. - Obsolete
Vlad Antlerkov - K11 - Trojan Horse.
Vlad Anterkov (Gamecube64) - G10 - Acropolis.
Whoha (Sparrowhawk) - B6 - Jihad. - Obsolete
Dark Cloud (Ljube-ljcvetko) - K6 - Silk Road.
Sparrowhawk (Dark Cloud) - F6 - Trans-Siberian Railroad. - NUKED
Whoha (Sparrowhawk) - A7 - National Rifle Association.
Whoha (Sparrowhawk) - B7 - Mafia.
Vlad Anterkov (Jonny) - B11 - University of California.
Vlad Anterkov (Jonny) - A12 - NASCAR.
Vlad Anterkov (Jonny) - A10 - The KGB. - Obsolete
Vlad Anterkov (Jonny) - C12 - The Majestic-12 Program.
Vlad Anterkov (Jonny) - C10 - Galactic Overlord.
Dark Cloud - A1 - O-rings (wonder #15).
Muxec - C3 - Field Degenerator (wonder #16).
Muxec - B3 - Stupidity Ampliphier (17th wonder).

Tech prices:
Nano Diodes (tech 18) is still 10336 gold.
Subline Warp fields (tech 19) is still 16724 gold.
Tunneling Gamma Quarks (tech 20) is still 27060 gold.
Artificial Stupidity (tech 21) is still 43784 gold.

Wars
Dark Cloud and Vlad Antlerkov.

Misc.
Those who build wonders 15, 16, and 17 can at anytime designate another player's SS part to be destroyed. I will then mark the wonder as obsolete. You must wait until after the wonder is built, you cannot use it one the same turn as you build it.
I've added a column to the chart that should the amount of SS parts that are built. Reminder 4 components are needed to win. Tech 15+'s wonders can be built and cost tech level squared. They can be used to ruin one of your opponents already built SS parts.

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Whoha
      
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Republic
      
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	05-11-2004 01:15									#314
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Blast. I forgot that SDI did nothing against majestic-12 until muxec told me...

	05-11-2004 01:22									#315
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quote: Whoha gives Dark Cloud 400 armies. Vlad Antlerkov shows Whoha the ways of The Flux Capacitor (tech 16) and Inductive Pulse Field (tech 17).

Something is going wrong here. As we can see from his espionage actions he prepared to be attacked by somebody. I do not think that the game will last for more than 3 more turns.

Negotiating and preparing orders.

	05-11-2004 01:48									#316
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Some wonders are too strong and some are useless: Mafia is useless while Troyan Horse, Majestic-12 and Galactic overlord are overpowered. I hope that the GMs of the future games will take care of it.

To all: do not forget to check your PM boxes regularly.

	05-11-2004 01:48									#317
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sent.

	05-11-2004 01:50									#318
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Majestic-12 is evil.

	05-11-2004 02:05									#319
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Wait a second, Vlad's war phase was sabotaged, so why was there a fight between the two armies? Vlad's army ought to have been kept at home by DarkCloud's spy, since both his spies were neutralized by my mole in his espionage agency.

	05-11-2004 02:58									#320
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Smiley, that makes one spy too powerful. Your mole is only able to kill one of his spies. I picked the first one in his orders.

	05-11-2004 03:39									#321
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	05-11-2004 07:01									#322
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resent. fixed that problem.

	05-11-2004 13:53									#323
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It's not going too good. Now everybody (maybe except Whoha) can win in 2 turns in case of right guess of others' orders.

Reminder: if I sign treaty for one turn it means next turn and not this (next) turn and one more turn.

Now I do not send my orders before seeing Smilie's map

	05-11-2004 14:13									#324
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The map... orders to come later.

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	06-11-2004 19:41									#325
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Still missing orders from Vlad, but no hurry, won't have time to process over the wekend.

	07-11-2004 01:56									#326
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...sent. hopefully it didn't get eaten.

	07-11-2004 03:17									#327
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quote: Originally posted by Vlad Antlerkov ...sent. hopefully it didn't get eaten.

	08-11-2004 00:00									#328
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I suppose we're ignoring this rule:

quote: Maximum caravans per turn = your tech level CHANGE: or 15, whichever is less

Should we consider it obsolete and unnecessary?

	08-11-2004 00:09									#329
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Just wondering, do you think we need to improve Nascar and make it possible to "trade with self... and trade with self for free?" to make it more useful? Or is it useful enough already?

	08-11-2004 00:50									#330
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By the time ya build the Nascar, tech levels are high enough that the cost of trading is insignificant.