28-09-2004 08:20									#1
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I really like this link that Imran posted on another topic so I thought it deserved its own thread.

http://www.politicalcompass.org/

Here's what I scored:

Economic Left/Right: 6.38
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 0.51

	28-09-2004 08:22									#2
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Your political compass
Economic Left/Right: -7.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.10

	28-09-2004 08:22									#3
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Economic Left/Right: 3.12
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.44

Nyah, nyah, I'm a right winger, and have been every single time I've taken this test (we've had many instances of this test).

	28-09-2004 08:23									#4
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Excuse me but you are barely right when it comes to economics and you are fairly far left socially. You are a libertarian who leans towards the right fiscally. Don't call yourself a right winger.

I suspect the main reason I fall right in the middle socially is because I'm an atheist.

	28-09-2004 08:24									#5
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Isn't this the most repeatedly offered political test on Apolyton or something?

	28-09-2004 08:24									#6
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Someone has a plot of everyone on Apolyton who has taken the test.

	28-09-2004 08:25									#7
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The test says so .

I'm on the right wing. And I'm libertarian. If you say I LEAN to the right, then you have to say I LEAN Libertarian. But you say I'm fairly far left socially. By that logic, then I'm fairly far right economically... seeing how I scored ~3 in both catagories .

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I'd like to see my results over the past few years to see the trend.

	28-09-2004 08:26									#9
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Right wing is what I had, 6+. And Ted it looks like you are a complete communist.

	28-09-2004 08:26									#10
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. . . . . and on top of that, Imran's favorite smilie for his political propaganda posts is the tongue smilie.

	28-09-2004 08:29									#11
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Woohoo, see if anybody can score more moderate than this!!

Economic Left/Right: 0.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.31

	28-09-2004 08:31									#12
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quote: Right wing is what I had, 6+

Nope... right wing is right of center... duh

Perhaps right wing wacko is 6+... I'll concede that to you.

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BTW - it's been evident to me for quite some time now that Imran is a Liberal. I don't mean a liberal in the contemporary sense, but an American liberal in the tradition of Lincoln, Jefferson or John Rawls.

High marks for that in my book. It's a bit more cerebral, in a gentle, patrician manner, than most contemporary political positions.

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Lincoln

	28-09-2004 08:33									#15
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Wow that was a very pretty and flowery attempt to turn the word liberal from a bad word into a good word. The fact still remains, Imran isn't right enough to call himself a conservative. You want to call yourself a moderate, fine, but enough of the conservative nonsense because you aren't one.

	28-09-2004 08:34									#16
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I wouldn't consider myself a Rawlsian, Aggie . In terms of justice and law, I'm more akin to go with H.L.A. Hart. I guess there is my conservatism peaking out . I'm more of a positivist than a natural law kind of guy (even though I realize Rawls doesn't really call his veil of ignorance a natural law system).

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Your political compass
Economic Left/Right: -3.62
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.72

	28-09-2004 08:36									#18
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quote: Wow that was a very pretty and flowery attempt to turn the word liberal from a bad word into a good word.

Adam Smith was a liberal. John Stuart Mill was a liberal. Milton Friedman is a classical liberal. Do you even have any idea what classic liberalism is?

	28-09-2004 08:38									#19
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Yes and it has nothing to do with today's liberalism. The word liberal today is a bad word and attempts to paint people as liberals of the past are in vain just as the word conservative doesn't have the same meaning anymore...even though you try your best to try to paint the right as a bunch of Monarchists.

	28-09-2004 08:39									#20
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Nah they are more like a bunch of ignorant rednecks.

Wait that's Cheney and Bush...

	28-09-2004 08:42									#21
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Your political compass
Economic Left/Right: 4.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -1.33

I'm more right wing this time than before IIRC it was something like 3.4 last time. My Lib score is about the same.

	28-09-2004 08:42									#22
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-9.88 Left
-8.05 Libertarian

HLVS

Of course the problem with this test is that it does not adequately separate policies adopted as a means, from ideal policies.

	28-09-2004 08:43									#23
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I would like to see Ned's score to see who is further right. I think he might win because I'm an atheist and that test takes that into account (although I think religion is a stereotype of the right).

I think your score Agathon just validated the accuracy of this test.

	28-09-2004 08:47									#24
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quote: Yes and it has nothing to do with today's liberalism.

You haven't been outside the US much have you? I recommend you check out the FDP in Germany for starters.

	28-09-2004 08:48									#25
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What's more interesting is that, apart from people like your good self, most people who take the test come out significantly to the left and significantly below our elected leaders.

There are two explanations I suppose.

One is the "democracy gap" in which the system itself is biased against progressive policies.

The other is more banal, and to my mind probably right, this is that the ruled always wish to have more social freedom and economic security than our leaders are able to give us.

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Economic Left/Right: -1.62
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 0.05

Never seems to change.

	28-09-2004 09:49									#27
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This thread grealy underestimates social conservatism. I am pro-life, pro-gun, anti-affirmative action, pro-vouchers. However, I scored a negative position on Social Libertarian/Authoritarian because so many of the questions for that are on attitudes rather then policy positions, such as whether you think making peace with the establishment is a part of maturity or whether violence is an acceptable means of punishing kids. This pushes most people's Social scores down.

	28-09-2004 10:02									#28
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Economic Left/Right: -8.12
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -8.31

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	28-09-2004 10:06									#30
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quote: Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui quote: Yes and it has nothing to do with today's liberalism. You haven't been outside the US much have you? I recommend you check out the FDP in Germany for starters.

He might have traveled to a place called La La Land.