28-09-2004 21:25									#61
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quote: Originally posted by chegitz guevara Good to see the Ted Striker project is coming along nicely. Soon the left will be hittin' it, pimp style.

Is that an indication that you aspire to enslave your ho's.

	28-09-2004 21:27									#62
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Ooh Ooh, let me do this test again. :yay:

Economic Left/Right: 3.38
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.74

	28-09-2004 21:28									#63
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I don't remember what I had other times

Economic Left/Right: -5.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -1.69

	28-09-2004 21:35									#64
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quote: CPA

Certified Public Accountant?

	28-09-2004 21:46									#65
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quote: Originally posted by St Leo This is the graph for the http://www.sc4ever.com/forums/. If you register there, switch to the frames style. It's a brilliant fusion of newsreader and web-forum interfaces and that site has had it for at least six years. Tsk @ the lame UBB clones.

Good lord, I've been out of touch with that place way too damn long if Exile is now a liberal.

Oh yeah:

-4.12/-3.54. Why do I hate America so much?

	28-09-2004 21:57									#66
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quote: Originally posted by chegitz guevara DroseDar's, is an application to the CPA in your future?

New variations everyday: Why the apostrophe?

And not likely. I'm a LOT more authoritarian than I let on. Fezincarlo ain't got nuthin' on me...

	28-09-2004 22:04									#67
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Economic: 5.50
Social: 4.77

Summon the chart plotter

	28-09-2004 22:20									#68
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Oh, gee, what did I get THIS time?

quote: Economic Left/Right: -0.75 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.28

Woah, that's the first time I've been left of center economically.

-Arrian

	28-09-2004 22:25									#69
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Commie!

	28-09-2004 22:35									#70
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quote: Originally posted by Arrian Oh, gee, what did I get THIS time? Woah, that's the first time I've been left of center economically. -Arrian

The questions are designed that way. For example "Can corporations be trusted to respect the environment?"

You may think, no, they can't, but that doesn't effect your economic stance really. What does is how you would deal with the view that corporation can't be trusted - taxation on pollution, laws banning pollution, consultation on a joint way forward, or letting them make lots of profit at the expense of the environment. All 4 would have different results on your economic outlook.

	28-09-2004 22:49									#71
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Yeah, the one that really gets me is the question about the free market and controls. I think it's something like "in a truly free market, it is necessary to have controls to prevent multi-national corps from forming monopolies".

The thing is, in a TRUE free market, you wouldn't have any controls. But I think the question is asking if you favor controls. I think the market does need some regulation - but it doesn't change the fact that as soon as you regulate it, it isn't a TRUE free market any more.

	28-09-2004 22:58									#72
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I believe in preventing monopolies, but that question assumes that anyone who says they agree should be classed as left wing economic, which is stupid.

	28-09-2004 23:05									#73
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I agree, it's not the greatest test, especially for those of us whom have actually worked on enviornmental policy. Anyway:

Economic Left/Right: -3.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.44

C'mon, who's the jerkwad that actually feels they should be proud of where they born?

	28-09-2004 23:13									#74
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OK, here's the actual statement:

quote: A genuine free market requires restrictions on the ability of predator multinationals to create monopolies.

The thing is, everyone should disagree with the statement because it is factually untrue - a genuine free market simply doesn't have any controls. However, whether or not you think a geniune free market is desirable is another matter.

	28-09-2004 23:16									#75
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Just for the hell of it, I went through again and clicked Strongly Agree for every single question. Apparently that gets you:

Econ: 0.00
Social: 4.36

	28-09-2004 23:23									#76
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I think one can be proud of one's country without being a nationalistic moron. But anyway...

The environmental questions definitely bring my score to the left. The very fact that I have a job is indicative of how much responsibility corporations are willing to take for cleaning up their pollution (translation: as little as possible. Gummint demanding money for cleanup? Get the insurance company to pay. It was an accident, yeah!).

-Arrian

	28-09-2004 23:32									#77
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quote: Originally posted by Kontiki OK, here's the actual statement: quote: A genuine free market requires restrictions on the ability of predator multinationals to create monopolies. The thing is, everyone should disagree with the statement because it is factually untrue - a genuine free market simply doesn't have any controls. However, whether or not you think a geniune free market is desirable is another matter.

Actually, that's not true.

A free market does not mean a market without regulations, but the law of supply and demand works freely without obstructions. A market with a monopoly no longer fits that criterion.

	29-09-2004 00:12									#78
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quote: Originally posted by Urban Ranger Actually, that's not true. A free market does not mean a market without regulations, but the law of supply and demand works freely without obstructions. A market with a monopoly no longer fits that criterion.

Um, no. Pick up an economics text book and read a bit about free markets and monopolies. I think you might be confusing a free market with a purely competitive market. There is nothing about a free market which precludes monopolies, nor are monopolies inherently bad in a free market.

	29-09-2004 01:31									#79
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I'm not going to pretend that this thing is up-to-date -- my PC says that the file was last modified in December 2002.

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This has been downloaded 85 time(s).

	29-09-2004 01:42									#80
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yeah baby... look at me!

	29-09-2004 01:45									#81
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Lunatic fringe, baby, yeah!



-Arrian

	29-09-2004 01:48									#82
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quote: Originally posted by Arrian Lunatic fringe, baby, yeah! -Arrian

nah, it put me far to the left economically because I acknowledge the evils of corporations... I'm probably moderate left if you take out my corporate hatred.

	29-09-2004 01:57									#83
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The Political Compass

Economic Left/Right: 0.62
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 2.46

I'm apparently in sinc with Tony Blair.

	29-09-2004 02:06									#84
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so Schröder is right wing authoritarian now?

	29-09-2004 02:15									#85
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I was disappointed to see how boring my results were.

Economic Left/Right: 1.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.67


I guess I should start considering myself to be something of a centrist.

	29-09-2004 02:28									#86
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Interesting.

I'm less authoritarian than Ghenghis Farb, and more fiscally conservative.

	29-09-2004 02:37									#87
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Here's an odd part of the quiz:

"Religion and Morality are closely linked"

Well, taken literally, that's true. Many, many, many people base their morality - in whole or in part - on Religion.

Yet I believe it is possible to have a code of ethics/morality without being religious. So how do I answer that one? I went with disagree.

The quiz has major flaws, as they all do.

-Arrian

	29-09-2004 02:46									#88
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quote: I wouldn't consider myself a Rawlsian, Aggie

Really? Rawls is closer to the classical liberal ideal than people think. For example, he's really hung up on civic rights and limiting government intrusion.

quote: Aggie's further to the left than I.

Fascist!!!

	29-09-2004 02:46									#89
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I assume an agree to the moral/religion question makes you socially authoritarians, so they may as well ask: Do you think people should (be forced to) follow religious morals?

	29-09-2004 02:48									#90
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A more detailed test.

http://www.orgburo.com/pofo.php