01-10-2004 08:31									#31
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quote: Originally posted by MrFun My positive viewpoint of Kerry is now more strongly reinforced after having watched and listened to the entire debate.

You realize that he has totally betrayed you and taken you for granted, don't you?

	01-10-2004 08:33									#32
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I think Kerry won this debate. Bush was disciplined and stayed on message, and certainly didn't do horribly, but Kerry got out too many damning accusation which weren't fully rebutted that I think may stick in the minds of undecided voters.

	01-10-2004 08:33									#33
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My reactions were:

Hmmm

Interesting

Ohh thats wrong

I need to take a piss

Do you want anything from the fridge while I'm up?

	01-10-2004 08:34									#34
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quote: Yeah, but should Kerry have ended the debates on that note? Bush focused on what is fresh in the publics mind.

Kerry offered to do something about it. Bush offered nothing new.

	01-10-2004 08:34									#35
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crossbow? you miss then spend the next 15 minutes reloading?

	01-10-2004 08:35									#36
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Has anyone here had their mind changed by this exercise, or know someone who has?

	01-10-2004 08:36									#37
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quote: Originally posted by Whaleboy Has anyone here had their mind changed by this exercise, or know someone who has?

I went from having extremely marginal support for Bush back to dead center.

	01-10-2004 08:38									#38
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the problem was that this was Bush's area... foreign issues. i dont know whats going to happen with the domestic issues debate. that cant go too well for bush

	01-10-2004 08:38									#39
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Larry King is saying Bush won this debate. Not that I care for his reporting. In fact, I think he's horrible. I should be watching O'Reilly.

	01-10-2004 08:39									#40
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MSNBC is good Dissident

	01-10-2004 08:40									#41
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O'Reilly aint on right now... Hannity and Colmes are dissecting the debate.

	01-10-2004 08:41									#42
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There was a debate?

ACK!

	01-10-2004 08:42									#43
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Who really gives a damn what the pundits have to say?

	01-10-2004 08:45									#44
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but the pundits are who we have to listen to... we take in everything they say and believe what they say... it's how modern democracy works

	01-10-2004 08:45									#45
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quote: Originally posted by Albert Speer O'Reilly aint on right now... Hannity and Colmes are dissecting the debate.

yeah I noticed. I never cared for either of them.

	01-10-2004 08:59									#46
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Bush does a great deer-in-the-headlights.

	01-10-2004 09:01									#47
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You know, using a ratio basis of Apolyton OT = left, Polls = even, on a normal day, and the fact that most people are scorin this a tie in this thread, I'd have to say Bush won, Statistics don't lie.

	01-10-2004 09:02									#48
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First We need Ned and ML to straighten us out.

I thought Kerry won. Not outstanding but a win more by default then anything. Kerry may have come off a little full off himself, but he made good points. He repeated most of his messages. So did Bush. Bush had some bad pauses after which his statements were week. Opening weren't really solid. I was wavering before but now I'm in the Kerry camp (weakly). Could lose me though with his domestic one. I was focusing more on Kerry since I've decided to not to vote Bush.

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quote: Originally posted by Albert Speer O'Reilly aint on right now... Hannity and Colmes are dissecting the debate.

FU*K them, what are they going to say other than their typical right wing lies. For the truth, try The Al Franken Show on The Sundance Channel.




There are lies, damned lies, and the Republican Party

	01-10-2004 09:02									#50
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quote: Originally posted by Jaguar You realize that he has totally betrayed you and taken you for granted, don't you?

If you're referring to Kerry's position with gay marriage (opposed to legal gay marriage, and leaving civil union law to individual states) I think his record has potential to be better than what Clinton actually did, or did not do, when he was president.



So no, I don't think Kerry is taking me for granted.

	01-10-2004 09:03									#51
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quote: Originally posted by Mad Bomber FU*K them, what are they going to say other than their typical right wing lies. For the truth, try The Al Franken Show on The Sundance Channel. [SIZE=3] [COLOR=red] There are lies, damned lies, and the Republican Party

Ummmmmmmmm, biased!

	01-10-2004 09:05									#52
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Mad Bomber:

Alan Colmes is a liberal...

	01-10-2004 09:07									#53
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Not a'tal' just tellin' it like it is.

Also check out Lies and the lying liars who tell them: A fair and balanced look at the right by Al Franken.

	01-10-2004 09:08									#54
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quote: Originally posted by Mad Bomber Not a'tal' just tellin' it like it is. Also check out Lies and the lying liars who tell them: A fair and balanced look at the right by Al Franken.

Also check out I'm a crappy comedian so I think I'll try my hand at hot button radio politics by Al Franken

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quote: Originally posted by Albert Speer Mad Bomber: Alan Colmes is a liberal...

Who isn't allowed to speak his mind and is irrelevent to the show. The title should have been "Hannity and the mute liberal" of just "The Hannity Show".

	01-10-2004 09:12									#56
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Agree that the Hannity / Colmes Show is biased. But Al Franken better find some one else who tells it like it. I think O'reilly is closer then Franken.

	01-10-2004 09:13									#57
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quote: Originally posted by Harry Tuttle Also check out I'm a crappy comedian so I think I'll try my hand at hot button radio politics by Al Franken

Typical republican response when challenged, resort to name calling and impuning personal character. I see that Sean has taught you well, Grasshopper.

	01-10-2004 09:14									#58
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quote: Originally posted by Mad Bomber Typical republican response when challenged, resort to name calling and impuning personal character. I see that Sean has taught you well, Grasshopper.

Well I have a a decade of bad SNL to back me up, so ping away.

	01-10-2004 09:15									#59
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quote: Originally posted by Moral Hazard Agree that the Hannity / Colmes Show is biased. But Al Franken better find some one else who tells it like it. I think O'reilly is closer then Franken.

O' Rielly is almost as bad as Hannity, they Are both topped by Ann Coulter who is legally insane.

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liberty! Freedom! etc.