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Starchild is offline Starchild
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When you say English English you realise that Great Britain has more dialects and accents than all of North America, right? I've recently moved from Suffolk to Norfolk, a hour long car drive, and the people speak funny up here!

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South Arkansas (originally from and still here). What Albert recognizes as ghetto I probably picked up from the majority ~50% black population in my city.

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When you say English English you realise that Great Britain has more dialects and accents than all of North America, right? I've recently moved from Suffolk to Norfolk, a hour long car drive, and the people speak funny up here!

You all speak funny up there!

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When you say English English you realise that Great Britain has more dialects and accents than all of North America, right? I've recently moved from Suffolk to Norfolk, a hour long car drive, and the people speak funny up here!


How is Eastern Yokel Territory?

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I live 10 miles from Provost Harrison and Ecthelion wondered if we were speaking the same language.

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What, you don't speak BBC English Dauphin??

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To be fair though, I originate 220 miles further away than that

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South Arkansas (originally from and still here). What Albert recognizes as ghetto I probably picked up from the majority ~50% black population in my city.


How close do you live to Pine Bluff

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How is Eastern Yokel Territory?


Norwich itself is a fine city, diverse and cosmopolitan, tolerant and includes both ancient monuments and modern delights. I can walk to the open air market held everyday, via the Chinese medicine stores and the Lebanese resturants to the 1000 year old centres of worship.

It's the rest of East Anglia that's full of inbred farmers.

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Good call, Sprayber, and here I thought you were somewhere near Newnan, GA, based on your handle.

Ozark and Appalachian dialects are more similar than either is to the Deep South dialect, though, in my defense.

In the latter, parents tend to be mama and deadie or just mom and dad. And for the record, no self-respecting Southerner would ever use "y'all" in the singular.

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Where is Speer and his PWNED self now?

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Analyze this:

My parents are Mom and Dad, my grandparents are Farfar, Farmor, Grandpa and Grandma, my father and his siblings call their parents Dad and Mom, my mother and her siblings call their parents Father and Mother, one of my greatgrandmothers was Nana.

I say "grossery" and "groshery" sounds strange.

Sometimes I say "Y'all" and "Ain't" for fun.

My father says "this pants" and "fift", which are both wrong to me.

What I call "stuffing" my grandfather calls "dressing", whereas to me "dressing" is something else.

Probably not enough to go on, but...

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What, you don't speak BBC English Dauphin??


No

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I've been told I have a soft British accent.

Ehvrehwhehre, probably being the most obvious.

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Hmm... "Farfar" and "Farmor" are of course Swedish. That would be consistent with the dropped "th" as well... Er... Minnesota has lots of people of Swedish descent...?

I've got no idea really.

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Minnesota is full of Nordics

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Minneapolis is full of fine honeys. I was up there and Dzam it's California with out the tan. Of course, it does have it's share of chunkers.

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http://www.city-data.com/city/Camden-Arkansas.html

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It's "greasy", no Z.

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Closer than Albert. South, yes, rural, almost. I've never lived outside city limits, but it's hardly a thriving metropolis. Just click the link I have fer Sprayber.

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When you say English English you realise that Great Britain has more dialects and accents than all of North America, right? I've recently moved from Suffolk to Norfolk, a hour long car drive, and the people speak funny up here!


You'd be surprised, there are literally thousands accents and sub-accents here in North America, you probably just don't hear them... just like most North Americans don't hear all yours aside from the obvious ones (Cockney vs. Liverpool, etc...)

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I'd like to here a country accent from Minnesota crossed with a southy Boston accent with a little bronx added in just for flava...

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You'd be surprised, there are literally thousands accents and sub-accents here in North America, you probably just don't hear them... just like most North Americans don't hear all yours aside from the obvious ones (Cockney vs. Liverpool, etc...)


Starchild is Canadian. Well he's not but he is, but not, well he is, but not. That is, he speaks from experience of both sides of the Atlantic and has the accent to prove it. I think I summed that up nicely.

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That you did, but Canadians are strange and speak funny. I agree with Jimmy though.

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Starchild is Canadian. Well he's not but he is, but not, well he is, but not. That is, he speaks from experience of both sides of the Atlantic and has the accent to prove it. I think I summed that up nicely.


The Canadians think I'm English and the English think I'm Canadian. And when I drink coffee I sound like I'm from New York.

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here's more to go on for me.

foods in the family: fiskegrateng, krossmakronur, yoktetakk, aebleskiver, riskrem ( I know the spellings aren't right)

I say abowt, not aboot, Eether not Ither, Tomayto not Tomahto

A relative of mine says "Buddins" for Buttons"

A completely different relative says "Here we is"

any constructive/ fair questions?

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Starchild is Canadian. Well he's not but he is, but not, well he is, but not. That is, he speaks from experience of both sides of the Atlantic and has the accent to prove it. I think I summed that up nicely.


Yes, but as I take it (I could be wrong) he is basically a Brit who lived in Toronto for a while. I suspect thats not really enough to make him enough of an "insider" to be able to distinguish between an Ontarian and, say, a southern Californian accent.

Another problem with North America is that its huge, so you really have to travel around quite a distance if you want to hear the range in accents we have here, unlike the UK where you can just walk up the road. If you just stay in one place (here) its easy to assume that everyone speaks just like you do, which alot of people do. Plus, we have Brits shoving down our throats that they have all the accents and we have none... an idea which alot of North Americans ignorantly buy into.

North America actually has a very rich and diverse lingustic history. All of the major identifiable accent groups here (New England, Mid Atlantic, Midwestern, Southern, Ozarks, Appalachia, Western, Canadian, Maritime Canadian, Newfoundland, etc, etc...) can be easily traced back to different linguistic groups in Britain who emigrated to those respective areas of the US and Canada. There's alot of literature on this available. Its really very interesting.

Anyone interested in this I would recommend pick up the book "Albions Seed" by David Fischer. Its quite exhaustive and very informative, although it deals mainly with the US.

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UFFDA!!!

Everybody who comes to the upper Midwest say we talk funny, ya betcha. Southerner-talk drives me insane trying to understand it.

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Brent:
Wherever your from I've never spent much time there. No aboot, does that rule out Montana? It definitly rules out Canada I knew a guy from Montana spoke like a Canadian don't think he said aboot tho. Here we is, makes it anywhere uneducated which hurts the west. Given the fact that you mentioned aboot. I'll go with
Montana or the Dakotas.

No idea about the foods. They sound german which would make you more likely east coast.

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Could be any scandinavian country.

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krossmakronur, yoktetakk


???

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aebleskiver


Danish. I always buy them at the Roskilde festival.

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riskrem


Again, could be any scandinavian country.

So you've got swedish words for your grandparents (not bestemor, bestefar), a danish-sounding surname and danish-appearing foodstuffs. Hmm....

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Wait a second, I've just googled the grandparent words and the "bestemor"-type ones are norwegian, not danish. So I change my mind, you're definately of danish descent.

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How about this: "Dere are tree tings you godda know about da bus." Spoken by my bus driver back in high school. Guess my location.


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Yes, but as I take it (I could be wrong) he is basically a Brit who lived in Toronto for a while. I suspect thats not really enough to make him enough of an "insider" to be able to distinguish between an Ontarian and, say, a southern Californian accent.


I think my ten years spent in the States plus my four years in Canada plus my four years in the UK gives me some insider brownie points.

 
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