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"My god, it's full of peas..."
Jul 2002
time: 21:22
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I can't believe no one posted this before now. I would have after Yahoo! posted it's first AP release shortly after the final vote but I'd already had my 2nd thread in 24 hours yesterday.
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tm...otocol_what_now
Kyoto Protocol Move Gets Wide Welcome
1 hour, 5 minutes ago Europe - AP
By GEIR MOULSON, Associated Press Writer
BERLIN - Europeans welcomed Russia's move toward ratifying the Kyoto Protocol (news - web sites), but environmentalists cautioned that the accord, rejected by the United States, can only be a "first step" toward negotiating deeper cuts in greenhouse gas emissions.
Russia's Cabinet on Thursday endorsed the 1997 agreement and parliament is expected to ratify the document by the end of the year. Without Russia, there would not be enough signatories for it to come into effect worldwide.
"Russia's green light will allow the climate train to leave the station so we can really begin addressing the biggest threat to the planet and its people," said Klaus Toepfer, the head of the U.N. Environment Program.
Russia's decision was welcomed by the governments of Germany, Italy, Britain and Japan, and by the European Union (news - web sites), which have been among the agreement's most energetic backers.
Once the deal enters into force, industrialized countries will have until 2012 to cut their collective emissions of six key greenhouse gases to 5.2 percent below the 1990 level.
However, the United States — which alone accounted for 36 percent of carbon dioxide emissions in 1990 — and Australia have rejected the treaty.
"The Kyoto Protocol undoubtedly sets very low targets compared to what scientists say is necessary in order to keep climate change under control," said Germana Canzi, a climate policy expert with the World Wide Fund for Nature. "However, it has always been considered a first step rather than the solution to the problem."
Thursday's Russian Cabinet decision to approve the protocol was, she said, a "massive breakthrough" because it will allow the rules finally to be applied and sets the scene for negotiations for future commitments.
The next round of international climate talks is scheduled for December in Buenos Aires, Argentina, and negotiations on greenhouse gas emissions after 2012 are due to start next year.
Next time around, "it is absolutely necessary to have a broader climate agreement where also the United States, especially, and Australia are taking part," said Leif Bernegaard, a climate expert at the Swedish Environmental Protection Agency (news - web sites) who took part in negotiations on Kyoto.
Canzi said developing nations such as China, which don't have specific emissions targets under the Kyoto Protocol, also "will have to be included one way or another."
Few believe the United States will change its mind anytime soon, although there are hopes that business interest in developing clean technologies would push America forward. The U.S. position could also change if John Kerry (news - web sites) is elected president in November.
"The Kyoto Protocol is now real — it's a very clear signal to the United States that the countries that have now made the step are being serious," said Joke Waller-Hunter, the executive secretary of the United Nations (news - web sites) Climate Change Convention.
"The Kyoto Protocol also provides an opportunity to modernize technologies. I think U.S. companies don't want to fall behind."
In 2001, negotiators agreed that signatories will face mandatory consequences if they fail to meet their targets.
Countries that miss their emission targets would be excluded from "emissions trading," buying and selling the right to pollute, while a panel to be set up by member governments would address alleged violations. The protocol also foresees emission credits for forests that soak up carbon.
The European Union is launching an emissions trading system next January under which European companies that emit less carbon dioxide than allowed can sell unused allotments to those who overshoot the target.
The profit motive is expected to drive efforts and technology and bring "substantial cuts" in emissions of carbon dioxide, which makes up 80 percent of the EU's greenhouse gases, EU officials have said. The European system foresees fines for companies that exceed their emission limits without managing to trade.
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DRoseDARs
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"My god, it's full of peas..."
Jul 2002
time: 21:22
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From a pdf offered from his site; bolding mine:
quote:
Using American ingenuity to level the playing field
John Kerry and John Edwards believe that the Kyoto Protocol is not the answer. The near-term emission reductions it would require of the United States are infeasible, while the long-term obligations imposed on all nations are too little to solve the problem. Unlike the current Administration, John Kerry and John Edwards will offer an alternative to the Kyoto process that leads the world toward a more equitable and effective answer, while preserving coal miners’ jobs. In the Kerry-Edwards Administration, the U.S. will equitably match the initial efforts of our industrial-country trading partners and competitors. U.S. reductions will be achieved in a reasonable and realistic timeframe. American workers and industries should not be forced to shoulder the costs of these reductions. The Kerry-Edwards Administration will work to provide support and incentives for U.S. industries and work to ensure that these clean, efficient technologies are deployed in a cost-effective manner. China, India, and the other key developing countries must also join the effort by agreeing to reduce the growth of their greenhouse gas emissions -- a step that can be achieved by the installation of American-made energy technologies. The growing climate-change problem cannot be solved on the backs of American workers and consumers, but neither can it be solved by pretending too little is known to take meaningful action. We can meet the climate-change challenge in a way that preserves and expands America's coal sector, that keeps clean-energy jobs at home, and that boosts the American economy. The key to doing this is by investing in the clean coal technologies of the future -- technologies that we and the rest of the world can use to fuel our economic growth with abundant coal, while capturing and sequestering safely in the ground the climate-altering carbon dioxide that today's coal-powered facilities emit. And that is what the Kerry-Edwards Administration's coal policy will do. |
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Comrade Tassadar
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Originally posted by The Mad Monk
He will sell us out. |
Russia estimates that America itself is worth several hundred billion rouble, however unfortunately the population that comes with it is vastly uneducated, unhealthy, and uncivilised.
Thus accounting for all this, Russia is willing to purchase the United States for maybe 2 kopeks.
Will Mr. Kerry agree?
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01-10-2004 12:36
) and found a few hits.
Is this really about doing something that works or is it about PR. I'm not really an expert on emission standards and I won't pretend to be, but this sounds a bit ridiculous. Will there be a time in Europe where pollution is bought and sold at the various exchanges?
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